Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[icecreamman99]

You're not just cherrypicking, but also blatantly lying.
Elthara, Daliza and Hethia are literally the only females in that entire city. Everyone else are either a man or some variation of a dickgirl.
I don't count Gytha because she never even was in the Winter City. First you fight her at the entrance, and then she leaves and never returns to Winter City ever again.
Quick Edit: Forgot about Marigold and Kesuk, but they come as a package deal, and it's cuck content so I don't care.

-Elthara, Hethia, Marigold, Daliza
-Etheryn
-Kesuk and Elyon
So mostly female NPCs a 4, 1 shemale NPC, and 2 males NPC

So how is that "cherrypicking, but also blatantly lying"
explain

 

[Jbuster]

There was a screenshot from their discord where Savin very smugly rubs in Wsan's face that he'll only get paid it he writes more dickgirls.
It's been posted and reposted in this thread a few times.

Need to see that lol

Randomv: Are you talking about Sandre and Caera? If so, I have to disagree. You can eventually invite them back to the wayfort, disguise them, dom them and de-dick them. If every futa in the game was as malleable as those two the game would be objectively better imo.

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Completely agree with that. If they're gonna be in there at least let us do something like that.
Especially (this goes for CoC2 & TiTs) since a fair number of them become one through corruption/accident (not willingly) but then don't get the choice for you to help them get back to normal (except for the paladin in Hawkethorne - I remember that one)

I clearly remember giving money to Sanders for a chamber that could, for some coins and, "natural herbs", cleanse corruption, which he also can do, being a priest

Yet they never let me use that chamber with one of the many demons/corrupt beings around

 

[icecreamman99]

I'm pretty sure that screenshot was Bubblelord talking about that they didn't have anything too write and most of Savin's "bounty board" being mostly chicks with dicks of some kind after Savin said there are plenty of things

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Need to see that lol

The closest thing I found was this one. But I remember there was one about Wsan not getting paid too. Maybe it was purged in one of the thread clean-ups.

Edit: Also stumbled upon this gem:

Lmao. Savin's hugbox and F95 thread were always at war.

 

[GS21]

Lmao. Savin's hugbox and F95 thread were always at war.

Well yeah, both sides see each other as the biggest shitter. No other way around it. It's more funny than anything, especially since some Savco people occasionally lurk here. (If you're reading this, hi)

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Well yeah, both sides see each other as the biggest shitter. No other way around it. It's more funny than anything, especially since some Savco people occasionally lurk here. (If you're reading this, hi)

Are they so pathetic that they hate read criticism? That tracks.

Hey Savin or whoever reads this stuff, if you decide to add me to your growing revenge fantasy character list you'll add before ever actually advancing the story over the next decade please remember to scroll back to the part where I admit to being a transwoman. Wouldn't want to prove a hater right that you guys are as fake of allies as you claim. Making my character futa is fine but only if she has a knotted horsecock.

The closest thing I found was this one. But I remember there was one about Wsan not getting paid too. Maybe it was purged in one of the thread clean-ups.

I can't tell if they're joking or if it's actually that the savin primarily pays for futa content and Wsan has to write to eat. Given that bubble left without telling anyone I'm assuming the latter.

Edit: Also stumbled upon this gem:

Bubblelord is probably the type of whippersnapper to genuinely think he's hard for threating to 1v1 in Gears of War of all things while also being caught throwing hissy fits when his bad writing is called out. Especially when their forums are an actual hugbox since not fellating the ego of tobs or savin or being as gentle as possible in criticism gets you dogpiled on. Also that whole lack of exclusivity isn't even everyone's primary complaint. I only mind in the context that the openness of the relationships is treated less like a county wide polycule and more like "look at these characters who are clearly meant to be shipped together and exclusive but we have to let you occasionally have the sex with one to maintain our image".

I clearly remember giving money to Sanders for a chamber that could, for some coins and, "natural herbs", cleanse corruption, which he also can do, being a priest

Preacher man is my plug. Call that herb divine intervention. More efficient than any confessional. I get my communion in the form of new morals and character whenever the demon coochie pull gets too strong. We're smoking the lord's bubbles with discount Obi Wan. It's the least he can do since I bet he's hiding more hung deer centauresses from my prying eyes.

 

[Alterism]

Heck I would have 1v1'd Bubs in Gears.
Whoop his ass in SFV too. Trash on him in tekken.

 

[Jbuster]

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The closest thing I found was this one. But I remember there was one about Wsan not getting paid too. Maybe it was purged in one of the thread clean-ups.

Edit: Also stumbled upon this gem:
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Lmao. Savin's hugbox and F95 thread were always at war.

He will fight you online for love and futa cock, and he'll do it for free

Are they so pathetic that they hate read criticism? That tracks.

Hey Savin or whoever reads this stuff, if you decide to add me to your growing revenge fantasy character list you'll add before ever actually advancing the story over the next decade please remember to scroll back to the part where I admit to being a transwoman. Wouldn't want to prove a hater right that you guys are as fake of allies as you claim. Making my character futa is fine but only if she has a knotted horsecock.


I can't tell if they're joking or if it's actually that the savin primarily pays for futa content and Wsan has to write to eat. Given that bubble left without telling anyone I'm assuming the latter.


Bubblelord is probably the type of whippersnapper to genuinely think he's hard for threating to 1v1 in Gears of War of all things while also being caught throwing hissy fits when his bad writing is called out. Especially when their forums are an actual hugbox since not fellating the ego of tobs or savin or being as gentle as possible in criticism gets you dogpiled on. Also that whole lack of exclusivity isn't even everyone's primary complaint. I only mind in the context that the openness of the relationships is treated less like a county wide polycule and more like "look at these characters who are clearly meant to be shipped together and exclusive but we have to let you occasionally have the sex with one to maintain our image".


Preacher man is my plug. Call that herb divine intervention. More efficient than any confessional. I get my communion in the form of new morals and character whenever the demon coochie pull gets too strong. We're smoking the lord's bubbles with discount Obi Wan. It's the least he can do since I bet he's hiding more hung deer centauresses from my prying eyes.

He's keeping that big tiddy bitch G'noll all for himself and would do the same shit with Shar if the champion wasn't in need of a fix, no wonder Anakin was so messed up

 

[GS21]

He will fight you online for love and futa cock, and he'll do it for free
He's keeping that big tiddy bitch G'noll all for himself and would do the same shit with Shar if the champion wasn't in need of a fix, no wonder Anakin was so messed up

Never forget what could have been...

 

[Alterism]

Giant asterisk if the content is written by SKoW though, they were able to make the concept of "Undersea Fortress filled with Shark Futas" boring.

The majority of that fortress is for group sex and voyeurisms.
Only SKoW could write an Asexual shark without literally any other character traits that define her personality beyond her sexuality. SKoW may have had range before but this seems like the default setting now.

Porn is halfway persuasion and imagination and SKoW is certainly lacking in trying to pitch appeal.
"I'm the group sex writer!" In a game in which three times over it's tied for bottom 3 in votes.

I have a question for the thread that I genuinely want to hear out, think about throughly about, and answer. If you were in Savco's shoes and u were given the plot point, lore, and characters up to this point how would you develop CoC2?
You have put yourself in their shoes, so no fantasy budget or fantasy writers added. Just you and their own reality and have to dev it with their resources and tools.

I wanted to make a much bigger post (you'll see why that wouldn't have been a good idea once you expand that spoiler).
But going through my history there's nothing I could say or explain that I haven't already and I don't have the spark to make a more different retread so we'll skip deeper explanations and do lighter touches.

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Mind you this is all a hypothetical.
I still think I'll probably be active in whatever the TiTS modding scene ends up being (unless there isn't one) when it finishes. Either through time, effort, or, if that fails, money.
Can't say the same for CoC2.

 

[i_dunno]

does someone have 0.8.2?

 

[Kalkrion]

Fix the maids
Yes it always comes back to maids with me.
I would take every single maid interaction SKoW has ever done and slingshot them into the trash can. I would then pay B or Gardeford a sizable commission to add maids to the Wayfort. With a few key features

• Hallway sex
• Throne sex
• Desk sex
• Bed sex
• Hallway teasing
• Throne teasing
• Random Fembang
• Directed fembang

Also expand the staff; a butler and a pantler.
No longer would I see the infinite potential of maids be squandered.
Also a head maid to add an actual unique NPC (in the absence of individual unique maids) to put a face on more intimate actions.

If this game had this level of maid content I might let it take up my hard drive space. Instead of deleting it between times when I feel like reminding myself that nice things are a power fantasy.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

There are random interactions between npcs at the Wayfort, adding some random stuff while camping would make a world of difference

The usually cold and composed Kiyoko suddenly acting all possessive and horny to drawn the champion's attention to her and your other companions reacting to that, Cait wants to join in but but Kiyoko bares her fangs making her jump like a scared cat, Arona would whistle, Brienne would wonder if she looks the same when the champion spends too much time away from her, I don't know, small stuff that works and opens the door for the real drama that comes later. There are already plenty of parts with Etheryn and Arona doing buddy/sex stuff and that mostly works, at least for me. That kind of things gives you the idea that they are not only sitting around in silence, waiting for your input while you do stuff because they are part of the adventure, you're constantly walking around with at least two characters and there's no friction which seems weird

Yeah the immediate party love is very lame. They don't beef or even disagreements, they only have this false feeling chemistry that forced. Even in the Avengers they beef for a good portion of the movie then gradually learn to vibe with each other, there are many a jrpg group that does this.
Hacks gonna be hacks I guess.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Never forget what could have been...
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Crimes bro! Crimes against the gooner race! And what did they replace her with? A dull ass immortal that's been stripped of the interesting aspects of an immortal.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

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There's a lot good ideas here, especially the bit about community building and how corruption should scale and progress tho it'd have nuance when it comes to the content. The bit about having outside peer review is also a great counter the echo chambers that tend to form around fetish games.
The combat revamp sound very nice, being able to go solo would be great.

 

[namelessdudewithnoname]

I forgot Viviane was a companion

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

It's one of the biggest signs that the power fantasy whine from the devs is serious fucking projection. Their power fantasy is making your PC comparatively powerless (e.g. to create or manage or control inter-party tension), so if their outcome demands the party gets on despite writing pages upon fucking pages about how the "lore" would suggest some serious issues, then they'll chuck the lore out.

Like, If you take a step back and look at too may interactions in this game from Savin or those who think like him, it boils down to "Here's the outcome I want, I'll write backwards to get it". Compared to "What would this character actually do in a situation, given the writing I have already established?". Throw in a lot of openly "I did this to fuck with people I didn't like from COC1/That forum/This forum" and behold, the ouroboros of hate.

That's why I went on that rant a while back about how I just hate the way the people who write for this game treat people who get booted out. It's some cruel cultist shit, and it's all predicated on keeping the scam going (and the scam is not the game, the scam is that the game isn't an extension of the writers power fantasy). And again, blah blah blah I'm some anonymous know-nothing on the internet projecting my own projections into a videogame forum.

But its why I keep checking this thread - yeah maybe it is repeating the same points over and over, but I 100% think that most people in this thread are way further along seeing now plain nasty that crew is now than they were 200 pages ago. Plus, the fact is anyone can check my post history on this forum and see I'm a lot less hateful of a person than anyone writing for this game writing pages and fucking pages about how the contributor they just kicked off the ship sucked actually to anyone looking to praise or defend them.

It's their power fantasy bro, we're just living in it. Worse is like you said, they treat ppl like shit if the don't agree to toe the line on "party" opinions and if not you get demonized and ostracized. They might use u to "salt mine" which is just their barely disguised hate fetish.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I forgot Viviane was a companion View attachment 4996099

Thts not Viviane tho

 

[namelessdudewithnoname]

Obviously.
I just like FemKeros

 

[Peasantry]

The Viv art is really hot from like mid-thigh up, but why do her legs look so stubby