Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Pizza Lord]

Alright, so [Anon] is writing some Kurako content, where they start a relationship. They wanted some feedback. Gonna use spoilers for space saving reason. Things to understand: Currently this option is only available if Champ is the baron/ess of the Wayfort and Kiyoko has been freed, so those aren't issues.

Here's the start, where Champ asks her on a Date.

Spoiler: Date?

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Okay, that's the lead in (and this all still rough draft. don't worry about small grammar or typos), but here was the next part:

Spoiler

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My comment on that was, 'What if Kiyoko is in the party? Kurako might say things differently and Kiyoko should have something to say. Writer agreed and wrote this:

Spoiler: [party.has Kiyoko

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Currently, it's set as an either/or parser. If Kiyoko is there when Kurako is asked, the scene above. If she's not, then that original scene plays. Normal stuff.
So after reading the Kiyoko addition, my response was along the lines of, 'That's amazing (tweak some wording and typos at the time)! This is great. In fact, this is so good, that no reader should have to miss this. Since the scene requires Kiyoko to be freed anyway. You should just require her to be there, because this feels like the right path not for the Champ (who's allowed to be a jerk) but because it feels like the right answer for Kurako (to decline without Kiyoko's consent).

[Anon] is not sure and wanted some opinions. Mine is that while it's okay for some Champ's to be dismissive of Kiyoko and just invite Kurako, that not every reader might feel that way about their fox consort/wife and wouldn't appreciate and I feel Kurako wouldn't do it without hearing from Kiyoko.

The question [Anon] asked me to pose is: Do you think it would make sense to just require Kiyoko to be in the party for Kura's consent. If she's not, Kurako will say she needs to think and talk with Lady Otomo (I am not doing the line over the O) and then maybe a bolded message at the end that Champ should return with Kiyoko in party to continue the conversation. Or... just not worry about it and just...have her moved into the outpost possibly a little later?

I will pass along opinions.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Alright, so [Anon] is writing some Kurako content, where they start a relationship. They wanted some feedback. Gonna use spoilers for space saving reason. Things to understand: Currently this option is only available if Champ is the baron/ess of the Wayfort and Kiyoko has been freed, so those aren't issues.

Oh hell yeah that's one of the kitsunes I like I'm all about this. But I do have to ask why Kiyoko being free is a requirement? She hasn't been a requirement to any other kitsune relationship before to my knowledge.

[Anon] is not sure and wanted some opinions. Mine is that while it's okay for some Champ's to be dismissive of Kiyoko and just invite Kurako, that not every reader might feel that way about their fox consort/wife and wouldn't appreciate and I feel Kurako wouldn't do it without hearing from Kiyoko.

The question [Anon] asked me to pose is: Do you think it would make sense to just require Kiyoko to be in the party for Kura's consent. If she's not, Kurako will say she needs to think and talk with Lady Otomo (I am not doing the line over the O) and then maybe a bolded message at the end that Champ should return with Kiyoko in party to continue the conversation. Or... just not worry about it and just...have her moved into the outpost possibly a little later?

I don't think it's dismissive with the context of Kiyoko having her sharing and borderline voyeurism kink, But knowing about it can be dependent on factors so the champ speaking for her could be seen as weird or too meta depending on what's been seen. It would probably take more work than necessary to account for seeing scenes or variations of scenes involving Kiyoko's behavior. I'd say leave as is and give a small scene of Kiyoko giving Kura an orientation to show it's all good or add a line afterwards with Kura mentioning Kiyoko discussing it and giving her blessing. My only concern with requiring Kiyoko's presence is that Kura is a random encounter so RNG may make it take longer if you find Kura and realize you forgot the orange flavored fox and have to go get her and re-encounter Kura. But that is only a slight annoyance admittedly.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Reading the ants thing reminded me of that image which is fuckin weird since I stumbled on it over a decade ago when I first hit puberty and was looking for Resident Evil porn. But good luck getting me to remember what I did yesterday.

Embrace the darkness, unleash the freak.
Was not expecting irl lore, Nice. But if you're still looking, I got you.

Spoiler: Getting freak with Resident Evil

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That one's up there in weirdness but the art style distracts somewhat. I'm actually disappointed she didn't get revived from the semen demon or had faked her death to be with him. Look I'm weird, sometimes I want my smut to have a happy ending. The heartwarming kind not the massage parlor kind.

Eh, I'm tragedy type of guy. Tho I do appreciate a well done happy ending.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

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Hey bud, if you're gonna be peeking like a coward, at least have the guts to say something.

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Cowards are a afraid of confrontation, bro. Especially when they can't strawman their way out of the bullshit they start.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Cowards are a afraid of confrontation, bro. Especially when they can't strawman their way out of the bullshit they start.

I wonder if this person believes that since the norm in the official Fen channels is to dogpile on naysayers to varying levels of severity, that posting here would get the same response.

Hey bud, if you're gonna be peeking like a coward, at least have the guts to say something.

At the risk of playing Devil's Advocate, we have sorta turned "Tobs" into an in-joke verb and adjective poking at him lately. But it's totally deserved so it's fine. Not like Tobs would ever accept earnest constructive critique anyway.

But Cesspool? I resemble that accusation.

Psst hey Nino. If you're lurking that's your decision, but Savin's not gonna let ya hit it just cause you're white knighting for him. Neither is Tobs.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

Just based on the fact Kiyoko is basically rating your cum, and she's been head over heels for you the whole time you're with her, I think it's better to get one mofu to convince the other mofu. It fits with the whole hierarchy thing, sounds more natural, and it confirms Kiyoko doesn't mind, so long as you don't neglect her.

 

[Jbuster]

Alright, so [Anon] is writing some Kurako content, where they start a relationship. They wanted some feedback. Gonna use spoilers for space saving reason. Things to understand: Currently this option is only available if Champ is the baron/ess of the Wayfort and Kiyoko has been freed, so those aren't issues.

Here's the start, where Champ asks her on a Date.

Spoiler: Date?

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Okay, that's the lead in (and this all still rough draft. don't worry about small grammar or typos), but here was the next part:

Spoiler

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My comment on that was, 'What if Kiyoko is in the party? Kurako might say things differently and Kiyoko should have something to say. Writer agreed and wrote this:

Spoiler: [party.has Kiyoko

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Currently, it's set as an either/or parser. If Kiyoko is there when Kurako is asked, the scene above. If she's not, then that original scene plays. Normal stuff.
So after reading the Kiyoko addition, my response was along the lines of, 'That's amazing (tweak some wording and typos at the time)! This is great. In fact, this is so good, that no reader should have to miss this. Since the scene requires Kiyoko to be freed anyway. You should just require her to be there, because this feels like the right path not for the Champ (who's allowed to be a jerk) but because it feels like the right answer for Kurako (to decline without Kiyoko's consent).

[Anon] is not sure and wanted some opinions. Mine is that while it's okay for some Champ's to be dismissive of Kiyoko and just invite Kurako, that not every reader might feel that way about their fox consort/wife and wouldn't appreciate and I feel Kurako wouldn't do it without hearing from Kiyoko.

The question [Anon] asked me to pose is: Do you think it would make sense to just require Kiyoko to be in the party for Kura's consent. If she's not, Kurako will say she needs to think and talk with Lady Otomo (I am not doing the line over the O) and then maybe a bolded message at the end that Champ should return with Kiyoko in party to continue the conversation. Or... just not worry about it and just...have her moved into the outpost possibly a little later?

I will pass along opinions.

I mean, the woman is already out of the orb and she's kind a big deal, descendant of their god, big shot lady, Komari's best friend and all of that, Kurako being a kitsune I believe would care a lot about her opinion and the champion acting like, "don't mind her babe I got the money she ain't even my main squeeze", doesn't inspire what I would call the base of a good relationship

What I'm saying is that it makes sense for Kurako to worry about her social standing by embracing a relationship with you, who happens to be married to someone at the top of the fox social hierarchy which is something they care a lot

Crimson said something about her encounters being at random, give her a fixed spot because there's nothing more annoying that walking all over the place for a quest

So if I ignore Helia and don't impregnate her, then Tobs becomes noncanon to reality. Butterfly effect up in this bitch.


I have become the very thing I swore to destroy.

Reading the ants thing reminded me of that image which is fuckin weird since I stumbled on it over a decade ago when I first hit puberty and was looking for Resident Evil porn. But good luck getting me to remember what I did yesterday.


That one's up there in weirdness but the art style distracts somewhat. I'm actually disappointed she didn't get revived from the semen demon or had faked her death to be with him. Look I'm weird, sometimes I want my smut to have a happy ending. The heartwarming kind not the massage parlor kind.

Sooner or later the female zombie from Resident Evil 2 looks kind of cute and then you know it's over

Spoiler: Embrace the chaos

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Hey bud, if you're gonna be peeking like a coward, at least have the guts to say something.

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We turned his dumb name into a silly and short way to write mucho texto and he ain't smiling
Dude wants to be miserable

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It ain't as bad as it could've been knowing what you're capable of.... but still.

Bro is basically a love history, I mean, there's plenty of love

Spoiler: Love is amazing I tell you

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[Ilovekatz19]

I've been trying to use the save editor to move the centaur caravan from nottia's farm to marilla's to see the alternate scenes, but either nothing changes, or the game still believes the quest has already been completed despite the taurs not appearing at either farm. Is there some kind of flag I'm missing, or is there any way I can edit the quests i've completed?

Are you by chance changed the flag CENTAUR_REHOMED from 1 to 2? Because I had the taurs at the slime farm and I changed the flag using the console and they moved no problem.

Alright, so [Anon] is writing some Kurako content, where they start a relationship. They wanted some feedback. Gonna use spoilers for space saving reason. Things to understand: Currently this option is only available if Champ is the baron/ess of the Wayfort and Kiyoko has been freed, so those aren't issues.

Here's the start, where Champ asks her on a Date.

Spoiler: Date?

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Okay, that's the lead in (and this all still rough draft. don't worry about small grammar or typos), but here was the next part:

Spoiler

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My comment on that was, 'What if Kiyoko is in the party? Kurako might say things differently and Kiyoko should have something to say. Writer agreed and wrote this:

Spoiler: [party.has Kiyoko

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Currently, it's set as an either/or parser. If Kiyoko is there when Kurako is asked, the scene above. If she's not, then that original scene plays. Normal stuff.
So after reading the Kiyoko addition, my response was along the lines of, 'That's amazing (tweak some wording and typos at the time)! This is great. In fact, this is so good, that no reader should have to miss this. Since the scene requires Kiyoko to be freed anyway. You should just require her to be there, because this feels like the right path not for the Champ (who's allowed to be a jerk) but because it feels like the right answer for Kurako (to decline without Kiyoko's consent).

[Anon] is not sure and wanted some opinions. Mine is that while it's okay for some Champ's to be dismissive of Kiyoko and just invite Kurako, that not every reader might feel that way about their fox consort/wife and wouldn't appreciate and I feel Kurako wouldn't do it without hearing from Kiyoko.

The question [Anon] asked me to pose is: Do you think it would make sense to just require Kiyoko to be in the party for Kura's consent. If she's not, Kurako will say she needs to think and talk with Lady Otomo (I am not doing the line over the O) and then maybe a bolded message at the end that Champ should return with Kiyoko in party to continue the conversation. Or... just not worry about it and just...have her moved into the outpost possibly a little later?

I will pass along opinions.

The only suggestion I'd give is that if they're going to have Kiyoko implant the idea of having a child with Champ then maybe add a parser for if Kiyoko's pregnant.

 

[JJJetPlane6644]

To be honest, trying appealing to the alphabet mafia crowd too was never going to work either, both because hyper sensitive and whiny those people are but ALSO because Tobs or Savin have no tact, savviness, or smarts to properly manage interacting with them.

 

[gembunny]

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Hey bud, if you're gonna be peeking like a coward, at least have the guts to say something.

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Noticed Savin being the first to like the comment too.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

I wonder if this person believes that since the norm in the official Fen channels is to dogpile on naysayers to varying levels of severity, that posting here would get the same response.

I hope not, projecting is such a low state of mind thing to do. But that is their mode of operation over there.

Psst hey Nino. If you're lurking that's your decision, but Savin's not gonna let ya hit it just cause you're white knighting for him. Neither is Tobs.

That's a LIE! If you SIMP hard enough you'll get Savin's sweet, stretched out bussy. At least thats what I've heard. Believe IT!

Sooner or later the female zombie from Resident Evil 2 looks kind of cute and then you know it's over

Spoiler: Embrace the chaos

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Not Sakura, isn't that Juri's thing, tho?

 

[GS21]

Alright, so [Anon] is writing some Kurako content, where they start a relationship. They wanted some feedback. Gonna use spoilers for space saving reason. Things to understand: Currently this option is only available if Champ is the baron/ess of the Wayfort and Kiyoko has been freed, so those aren't issues.

Here's the start, where Champ asks her on a Date.

Spoiler: Date?

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Okay, that's the lead in (and this all still rough draft. don't worry about small grammar or typos), but here was the next part:

Spoiler

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My comment on that was, 'What if Kiyoko is in the party? Kurako might say things differently and Kiyoko should have something to say. Writer agreed and wrote this:

Spoiler: [party.has Kiyoko

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Currently, it's set as an either/or parser. If Kiyoko is there when Kurako is asked, the scene above. If she's not, then that original scene plays. Normal stuff.
So after reading the Kiyoko addition, my response was along the lines of, 'That's amazing (tweak some wording and typos at the time)! This is great. In fact, this is so good, that no reader should have to miss this. Since the scene requires Kiyoko to be freed anyway. You should just require her to be there, because this feels like the right path not for the Champ (who's allowed to be a jerk) but because it feels like the right answer for Kurako (to decline without Kiyoko's consent).

[Anon] is not sure and wanted some opinions. Mine is that while it's okay for some Champ's to be dismissive of Kiyoko and just invite Kurako, that not every reader might feel that way about their fox consort/wife and wouldn't appreciate and I feel Kurako wouldn't do it without hearing from Kiyoko.

The question [Anon] asked me to pose is: Do you think it would make sense to just require Kiyoko to be in the party for Kura's consent. If she's not, Kurako will say she needs to think and talk with Lady Otomo (I am not doing the line over the O) and then maybe a bolded message at the end that Champ should return with Kiyoko in party to continue the conversation. Or... just not worry about it and just...have her moved into the outpost possibly a little later?

I will pass along opinions.

Honestly I don't think it's a big issue either way, both options work fine as they are. You could go for a third alternative option of you going to ask Kiyoko yourself which could be one of the two ways to resolve it.
If I had to pick though I would go for the having her in the party option. It's the thought that counts (or if you want to do something with corruption you could just lock the first option behind high corruption or smth since that's the direction they were going with it anyway)

 

[GS21]

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Hey bud, if you're gonna be peeking like a coward, at least have the guts to say something.

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Stirring things up (whether intentionally or not) in both forums is crazy work bro
Are you the goku pfp guy in the fen forums?
Because that would be so much unnecessary drama caused by someone who can't stop running their mouth in their forums and then posting screenshots of their reactions as if they weren't the ones who instigated it. I would be impressed if it were on purpose but it just looks like someone who doesn't bother to think before they type something out.

 

[PixelLewd]

Now that would be cool, it kind of reminds me of this light novel about a hero that was killed while fighting the demon lord and reincarnated as the seventh demon prince but with his old memories, so now he's tied to a devil of taboo in order to become stronger and kill his father and destroy the demon race

I'll always be pleasently surprised when I happen upon someone on sites like these that knows/follows/reads something I am; the manga/ln you're thinking of is: 7th Demon Prince Jilbagias, The Demon Kingdom Destroyer( 第七魔王子ジルバギアスの魔王傾国記 ; Dai Nana Maouji Jirubagiasu no Maou Keikoku Ki(Name in Japanese and Romaji)

Still waiting on more updates for the manga, been interesting read up to where it is.

Don't forget about FOE's Hel's granddaughter and the evil rapist groomer Champ from CoC1, all of which are Canon forever now.
Thanks to TOBS (for writing that) and Savin (for allowing that to be written) of course.
And at that time TOBS wasn't even that close of a cronies to Savin, he only officially joined the team sometime along the development of CoC2.

What about it makes it canon? Wasn't FoE its own thing separate from og CoC? Or at least, i don't remember reading anywhere that it had any connection to CoC that was more than easter eggs or people referencing it for memes( or salt in TOB's case), so did Fen or Alder say FoE was canon to CoC somewhere?

 

[Neighborsknowmyname]

Stirring things up (whether intentionally or not) in both forums is crazy work bro
Are you the goku pfp guy in the fen forums?
Because that would be so much unnecessary drama caused by someone who can't stop running their mouth in their forums and then posting screenshots of their reactions as if they weren't the ones who instigated it. I would be impressed if it were on purpose but it just looks like someone who doesn't bother to think before they type something out.
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Nah that's my friend. Bro loves Rage-Baiting. Still tho, he lurks here too. He got beef with Savin coz he wanted to make his submitted character a futa, and basically scrapped his submission, saying no. Not defending him, but it's kinda funny

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

I banish FoE from canon literally because the game died and there was no continuation so as far as most people are concerned, that plot arc was completely aborted.

 

[JJJetPlane6644]

I banish FoE from canon literally because the game died and there was no continuation so as far as most people are concerned, that plot arc was completely aborted.

Can we canonize gigantic boin boin boin boobies, even more so?


And less futa, but than again Tobs, Savin, and Futa are theHoly Shitity, when it should be the Holy TrinTITTY

 

[GS21]

Nah that's my friend. Bro loves Rage-Baiting. Still tho, he lurks here too. He got beef with Savin coz he wanted to make his submitted character a futa, and basically scrapped his submission, saying no. Not defending him, but it's kinda funny

So that means that it isn't the guy in the screenshot lurking and relaying everything to the forums but instead it was your friend, under the pretense of immature "rage-baiting."
Screenshotting the whole deal only comes off as desperate on top of being rather childish, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Neighborsknowmyname]

So that means that it isn't the guy in the screenshot lurking and relaying everything to the forums but instead it was your friend, under the pretense of immature "rage-baiting."
Screenshotting the whole deal only comes off as desperate on top of being rather childish, but that's just my opinion.

Eh, he is immature at times, but has his own moments.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

So if I ignore Helia and don't impregnate her, then Tobs becomes noncanon to reality. Butterfly effect up in this bitch.

Watch out, you'll break the fabric of reality!

The question [Anon] asked me to pose is: Do you think it would make sense to just require Kiyoko to be in the party for Kura's consent. If she's not, Kurako will say she needs to think and talk with Lady Otomo (I am not doing the line over the O) and then maybe a bolded message at the end that Champ should return with Kiyoko in party to continue the conversation. Or... just not worry about it and just...have her moved into the outpost possibly a little later?

I will pass along opinions.

I feel like mentioning it'd be cool if it wasn't tied to Kiyoko since... well, the can of worms of bringing her out, but that's more of a personal opinion.

Otherwise, sounds good.

Not Sakura, isn't that Juri's thing, tho?

Kind of? It's a bit ambiguous, she's more on the edgy side.