Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[The_fallen_dragon]

I went through all the events in order to get the issue of the rage, so here's the main "meanings" of some of them
-Basic-
Kinu wants to be more mature in order to make her mom proud
-Kitchen event
instruments-
if positive relationship
-Kinu learns to play Koto harp
If negative
-Kinu learns to play the Sakuhachi (in spite of her mother control)
-Learning-
If MC is
>Scion
-Kinu learns that pride can be the dawnfall of anyone, and that she needs to be regal but not arrogant
>Scholar
-Kinu learns that Knowledge is good, but wisdommust be gained through life
>Mage
-Kinu learns magic and that power needs to be honed and not be bragged about (supplementary education side, and a UR escene where the MC teaches her magic)
-Martial-
>Kiyoko teaches Kinu the use of the weapons
>MC can decide wich one she will use in the following
-Bow (perks if you have ranged MC or hunter origin), MC teaches her the proper use of the bow and tells her mother that she's still too young to learn on a proper rythm.
-Naginata (de facto)
-Story-
-Kinu's relationship modifiers-
-Make up. and how she can be authentic or use it to improve her trickery
-Smiles. She learns to either be frank and smile when is true, or be polite and keep doing it (even if it means that is a facade)
-Education (and the heaviest modifier)-

this event can define how kinu will get out of the orb by the following:
Forgive Kiyoko for her jelousy: by telling her that is OK to be too constrictive because you understand she knows best for her
Tell her that you hate her: She becomes more independent but sours Kinu's and Kiyoko relationship to the point of no return.

There some more but the main issue is that those events are suprisingly very well written and when you realize that everythingyou invested means fucking nothin enrages even the mos kind of the players,

Ok, so I definitely don't remember receiving some of those event.. But kinu an kiyoko definitely hate don't like each other in my playthrough. I mostly got a lot of the generic events when I interacted with Kinu so I'm guessing the rng gods just didn't favor me it seems. Wouldn't be the first time.

Either way I get why people are mad.

 

[ankhtar]

It is a shame, because Kiyoko is, in my opinion, really well written even if I'm not at all into the whole pregnancy thing. I was expecting to at least have a decent parent-daughter relationship with Kinu as well, but the way it was handled, especially after all the parenting moments we have to go through to have her become one way or another, just ends up feeling like Tobs dropped his trousers and took a monumental shit of epic proportions on the players. The way the whole kitsune den (except maybe Kohaku and Kuro) treats the MC despite him/her being the right hand of their literal fucking deity, who they claim to revere, felt like further shit was dropped on the players, like the man downed several bottles of laxatives for that singular purpose.

At this point, I'm hoping the mod authors (despite their alleged inability to also give a shit about the players) make it possible to thoroughly destroy Kinu in the horizontal way, maybe even Komari while the rest of the den watches while they're at it. I'm not even particularly interested in it, I just want to spite Tobs, have him taste his own salt for once, see how fun he finds it.

 

[Quintilus]

have a decent parent-daughter relationship

We dont do that here.

 

[Konstantinus]

We dont do that here.

Without Sex.

Since I've basically just been ignoring the kitsune crap after I looked asked about the engagement and did the stupid head petting event. How far does the whole betrayal thing actually go?

If you go to the path where Kinu has good relationship with Kiyoko Kinu will not let you pet her tail, marries and defend an asshole that says, your heroic deeds could have be done by anyone, blame you for not meeting her for many decades and so left her alone until she whas grown up and even your wife tells you the guy that she marries and ridicules you is a good match as he reminds her of someone else and that you have no right in this decicion as you are only a northener.

 

[Fiz1247]

Ok, so I definitely don't remember receiving some of those event.. But kinu an kiyoko definitely hate don't like each other in my playthrough. I mostly got a lot of the generic events when I interacted with Kinu so I'm guessing the rng gods just didn't favor me it seems. Wouldn't be the first time.

Either way I get why people are mad.

I can tell you are new to the game if you don't know about Tobs-Kinu fiasco. I would suggest you read the older pages of this forum and be redpilled about the fact that Kinu content is only meant to spite you instead of please you.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

I can tell you are new to the game if you don't know about Tobs-Kinu fiasco. I would suggest you read the older pages of this forum and be redpilled about the fact that Kinu content is only meant to spite you instead of please you.

New to the game new, I was around since coc.

Actually interacting with the actual devs and fandom? Then yes.

Also if you got pages let me know them, with that said, can't red pill someone on something they don't care for. I can't make me hate the kitsune stuff even more and it's not like if I do a second run of the game I'll bother with it at all.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Without Sex.

If you go to the path where Kinu has good relationship with Kiyoko Kinu will not let you pet her tail, marries and defend an asshole that says, your heroic deeds could have be done by anyone, blame you for not meeting her for many decades and so left her alone until she whas grown up and even your wife tells you the guy that she marries and ridicules you is a good match as he reminds her of someone else and that you have no right in this decicion as you are only a northener.

Ok wtf?
I mean you already get half of that except.
Wait does an marry a different guy? Because mine is she marries.the farmer dude, kiyoko hates him because "he lacks ambition". And you're not given the choice to tell either of them to fuck off and die if that's what they think?

Is this supposed to be a deprecation and emotional humiliation fetish or something?

 

[arls120]

Ok wtf?
I mean you already get half of that except.
Wait does an marry a different guy? Because mine is she marries.the farmer dude, kiyoko hates him because "he lacks ambition". And you're not given the choice to tell either of them to fuck off and die if that's what they think?

Is this supposed to be a deprecation and emotional humiliation fetish or something?

If Tobs believes that being a good father is that. I think he may have some serious fathering issues.

 

[King_Ogre]

Ok wtf?
I mean you already get half of that except.
Wait does an marry a different guy? Because mine is she marries.the farmer dude, kiyoko hates him because "he lacks ambition". And you're not given the choice to tell either of them to fuck off and die if that's what they think?

Is this supposed to be a deprecation and emotional humiliation fetish or something?

Yes.
Hime kinu engages herself with Kirito McSperg, and acts like a bitch.
Ground founded Kinu is a farmer that engages herself with a guy that has the personality of a brick

Spoiler: The fox equivalent of this guy

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But she's more lovely and sort of more attentive to you and the natives

 

[Fiz1247]

Actually interacting with the actual devs and fandom? Then yes.

New to the game new, I was around since coc.

Actually interacting with the actual devs and fandom? Then yes.

Also if you got pages let me know them, with that said, can't red pill someone on something they don't care for. I can't make me hate the kitsune stuff even more and it's not like if I do a second run of the game I'll bother with it at all.

There are many pages spanning this discussion and the topic has the tendency to be recycled again but I will try to give the short of it
>Savin plans to make Incest content with Helspawn in Coc1
>Fans ask him about its progress. Savin spergs out about it then drama ensues and it was never finished
>TheObserver writer from another another game FoE unrelated to CoC has a hate boner from that drama against those Incest fans even though Savin probably moved on
>Tobs writes the character Cassidy in FoE out of spite

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>His hateboner carries on to CoC2 and still spites that CoC1 group by creating this character called Kinu
>Tries to implicitly shame you for being a grooming bastard but commissions art for Kinu being banged by Nakano/Hitoshi and your second daughter that you will never interact with in game by a random wolf guy
There you have it. I should not have missed any details. There are still random tidbits here and there that make his content specifically kitsunes cancer but that's the gist of it.There's general distrust atleast for me that whatever his new content will be It will be salt-mining as usual.

 

[arls120]

If you ever think of writing content for your peers' kids like quin or bring that Tobs wouldn't even think of showing up. I didn't give birth to those assholes to make me all that drama.

 

[King_Ogre]

There are many pages spanning this discussion and the topic has the tendency to be recycled again but I will try to give the short of it
>Savin plans to make Incest content with Helspawn in Coc1
>Fans ask him about its progress. Savin spergs out about it then drama ensues and it was never finished
>TheObserver writer from another another game FoE unrelated to CoC has a hate boner from that drama against those Incest fans even though Savin probably moved on
>Tobs writes the character Cassidy in FoE out of spite

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>His hateboner carries on to CoC2 and still spites that CoC1 group by creating this character called Kinu
>Tries to implicitly shame you for being a grooming bastard but commissions art for Kinu being banged by Nakano/Hitoshi and your second daughter that you will never interact with in game by a random wolf guy
There you have it. I should not have missed any details. There are still random tidbits here and there that make his content specifically kitsunes cancer but that's the gist of it.

You have quote ancient lore.

 

[Kroenen12]

Looks good so far though I am councerned about Savin's help.

Oh savin's "help" gets worse...

Spoiler: Savin

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[Fiz1247]

Oh savin's "help" gets worse...

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Man can't wait to watch them lez out while I rub myself in the corner

 

[King_Ogre]

Oh savin's "help" gets worse...

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And here we go... I hate being correct...

 

[Quintilus]

There aren't many games like this in the market or some of them like TiTS or Lillith's Throne is having a long pause of content.

Define what you mean by "like this"?
Lot of characters? They almost the same, even if you count "girl with a dick" as personality trait.
Maybe than cartoonish characters have something other than personality? Most of characters here are as deep as cunt of a virgin, both in sense of sex options and history.
Maybe lot of fetishes? Yes, we have here rape, rape, rape and rape....did I mentioned rape?? I hope I did.
Interesting, or at least some, story? Just an invasion of corrupting demon. Nothing special, since nobody mind it, usual wednesday, you know...
Maybe the way its written are interesting? Of course it is, since you can see, with you own eyes, how character refer to himself in first, second and third person in a single sentence.

And IMO Lilith Throne by a 46 heads and one ear taller than COC2 and TITS in every way.

 

[Biostar]

That's complicated?

For this game? Yes. The most complicated it can get is you have to do some task for the NPC before you can plow them. Subtle mindplay like you want is beyond the writers.

Is there though? While in that orb unless I missed something I barely remember anything when resembling "parenting". Just playing with and giving your child stuff does not equate to parenting. I don't remember the mc ever once actually teaching his daughter anything or even just being a authority figure.

I do remember that some of the events that trigger in the astral plane have you influence her one way or the other depending on your choices. It's been too long for me to remember specifically which though.

 

[throbzombie]

Yes, we have here rape, rape, rape and rape....did I mentioned rape

There's not that much rape in this one, really. It's mostly traditional Savarran "semi-consensual" sex.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Ok, I did both a forum search and a wiki search and a I can doe is raise my eyebrow. He says kinu is suppose to be a story of a child moving t out of their parents shadow but in what way?

The princess basically a mirror of the mother from how are acts to from what in reading how she talks. While the farmer while acts different still has the same mindset of her mother. Hell the description even points out that she tends to come to similar conclusiona. While still ontop of that still sticking to her mother's traditions, sticking to that culture. The wiki isn't showing anything about her trying to escape the very thing that makes her mother her mother or even looking to explore anything about her father's cultures or beliefs. Hell I just did a page search the words "dad" 'father" and dad shows up 3 times while father shows up only once and all of then are in some fluff.


"Resentful relationship with her mother. Comes to similar conclusions as Kiyoko does, but through her own lines of reasoning."

For this game? Yes. The most complicated it can get is you have to do some task for the NPC before you can plow them. Subtle mindplay like you want is beyond the writers.

I do remember that some of the events that trigger in the astral plane have you influence her one way or the other depending on your choices. It's been too long for me to remember specifically which though.

Really this came is the same people who made the first correct? There was scenes with subtle manipulation in the first game (maybe not necessarily good). The female dog with the farm, using the coin as a focal point to slowly change the mentality of the software to make her more into a Dom or my personal favorite, a submissive little bitch.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

There are many pages spanning this discussion and the topic has the tendency to be recycled again but I will try to give the short of it
>Savin plans to make Incest content with Helspawn in Coc1
>Fans ask him about its progress. Savin spergs out about it then drama ensues and it was never finished
>TheObserver writer from another another game FoE unrelated to CoC has a hate boner from that drama against those Incest fans even though Savin probably moved on
>Tobs writes the character Cassidy in FoE out of spite

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(Information of note section)
>His hateboner carries on to CoC2 and still spites that CoC1 group by creating this character called Kinu
>Tries to implicitly shame you for being a grooming bastard but commissions art for Kinu being banged by Nakano/Hitoshi and your second daughter that you will never interact with in game by a random wolf guy
There you have it. I should not have missed any details. There are still random tidbits here and there that make his content specifically kitsunes cancer but that's the gist of it.There's general distrust atleast for me that whatever his new content will be It will be salt-mining as usual.

Now my next question should be obvious, are they paid by Savin or is this volunteer/work for exposure work? Because if they are his actual employees why isn't he putting his foot down. And stopping the shit? He does realize that he's not just some dude on the internet but a literal actual brand, right? From what I'm hearing they are doing damage to his Brand's identity.