Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Tau_Iota]

Death of the Author and all tbh, we all read each line differently and will obviously come to our own unique (albeit sometimes similar) conclusions about each character

I just want them to add a "The Only Thing They Fear Is You ( DOOM Eternal OST High Quality 2021 MICK GORDON)" moment to the Kitsune Den tbh

Although ya genderbending just halves the content of a character between two iterations and either one iteration suffers from a lack of content or they both do

 

[Lord Kentus]

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Man, there is literally no point to this character now.

Also the writers of this game continue to prove why they couldn't survive in an actual work environment

 

[Daken9]

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Damn. This guy would rather his self-insert bunny be a bloated self-insert bunny corpse on the side of the road than rearrange his genitalia, because people would actually enjoy that kinda content. You gotta respect the shithousery, and also wonder how this guy got the job.

 

[Raf-Raf]

Genderswapping is a bad idea anyway.
A lot of work for minimal payoff.

*Smug Brienne look*


I still haven't tried Brienne content but most if not all the players seems to love it.

 

[mrttao]

Why are you all getting so heated over the canonicity (canonnity? whatever) of bad endings?

Because they contain important information about characters. Such as for example:
> Is the BBEG demoness capable of love.
> What happens to the world without the MC

probably a few more things.

 

[Lord Kentus]

You know what? I think I'll just do the fight option every time I unlock the kitsune village for the first time.
At least the dialogue there is something I'll enjoy.

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There really is some joy in kicking in those snobby assholes front door and then forcing them to the bargaining table after you kick the shit out of anyone who could remotely fight back. Its just a shame you can't continually rub it in their faces but I am sure TOBs would sob if you could make fun of his super special awesome characters who even ganging on up the PC one after the other, couldn't beat down one party.

 

[Raf-Raf]

There really is some joy in kicking in those snobby assholes front door and then forcing them to the bargaining table after you kick the shit out of anyone who could remotely fight back. Its just a shame you can't continually rub it in their faces but I am sure TOBs would sob if you could make fun of his super special awesome characters who even ganging on up the PC one after the other, couldn't beat down one party.

Oh I don't really care anymore if that's all I'll ever get, I'll take something over nothing in this piece o' shit.

 

[M0nte]

I just want more Quinn as he is. It has been so long...

 

[Skandranon]

*Smug Brienne look*


I still haven't tried Brienne content but most if not all the players seems to love it.

And when was the last time Brint got anything? He's not even involved with the family subplot on his end.

Genderswapping is just a lot of work to make a character appeal to the opposite fanbase of the original for basically no net gain.

It then either stifles future development of the character as a whole (this is what's going to happen to Berwyn I'm pretty positive, don't expect any more large chunks of content for him/her ever again after this one) or one side gets neglected in favor of the other (Brint/Brienne).

It's a waste of time. Not to mention all the examples of it in this game are/will be male to female, giving the fanbase that already has by far the most content even more and taking it away from the side that already is lacking.

And I'm not even a fan of male content, but I can recognize the inherent unfairness when I see it.

Just make a new character. Unless the character really leans into the fetish of being the opposite gender (and in all of these games basically none of them have) it would accomplish exactly the same thing.

 

[Raf-Raf]

And when was the last time Brint got anything? He's not even involved with the family subplot on his end.

Genderswapping is just a lot of work to make a character appeal to the opposite fanbase of the original for basically no net gain.

It then either stifles future development of the character as a whole (this is what's going to happen to Berwyn I'm pretty positive, don't expect any more large chunks of content for him/her ever again after this one) or one side gets neglected in favor of the other (Brint/Brienne).

It's a waste of time. Not to mention all the examples of it in this game are/will be male to female, giving the fanbase that already has by far the most content even more and taking it away from the side that already is lacking.

And I'm not even a fan of male content, but I can recognize the inherent unfairness when I see it.

Yeah I want more content for the sigma male Brint too...
I guess the fans are way more into the genderbent one so they're probably focusing more on that, sadly.

I don't know about the rest of the players here but genderbending characters feels a bit off to me.

 

[mrttao]

And when was the last time Brint got anything? He's not even involved with the family subplot on his end.

Genderswapping is just a lot of work to make a character appeal to the opposite fanbase of the original for basically no net gain.

It then either stifles future development of the character as a whole (this is what's going to happen to Berwyn I'm pretty positive, don't expect any more large chunks of content for him/her ever again after this one) or one side gets neglected in favor of the other (Brint/Brienne).

It's a waste of time. Not to mention all the examples of it in this game are/will be male to female, giving the fanbase that already has by far the most content even more and taking it away from the side that already is lacking.

And I'm not even a fan of male content, but I can recognize the inherent unfairness when I see it.

Just make a new character. Unless the character really leans into the fetish of being the opposite gender (and in all of these games basically none of them have) it would accomplish exactly the same thing.

To be honest, there is SOME aspect of fetish there. It is kinda hot to un-man a dude by turning him into a true woman against his will and then impregnate her.

Also, if they made a brand new character (for example, his sister) then you would have the exact same issue. Any content made for his sister would seem to be stealing away dev attention from him.

Of course the entire "wide variety of fetishes" thing fell by the wayside long ago as this game hyper focused on dominant futas dominating the MC

 

[Skandranon]

To be honest, there is SOME aspect of fetish there. It is kinda hot to un-man a dude by turning him into a true woman against his will and then impregnate her.

Yeah I get that...but that doesn't really happen here. All the genderswaps across all these games adjust extremely quickly and are basically instantly good to go with their new equipment. The fetishization of the struggle to adjust and being taken advantage of barely exists, if at all.

Also, if they made a brand new character (for example, his sister) then you would have the exact same issue. Any content made for his sister would seem to be stealing away dev attention from him.

A new character that's not a companion would take way less dev time. Briennes family is less work than Brienne.
And a new character can garner their own fanbase without the baggage of being excised from an existing one.

Plus, think about it from the dev perspective. Every time, say, B wants to create content for Berwyn in the future, he's immediately faced with the idea of having to create that content for male, female, and futa Berwyn. How do you think that affects how often he decides to do that?

Separate characters don't have the baggage or expectations of having equal or matching content.

Of course the entire "wide variety of fetishes" thing fell by the wayside long ago as this game hyper focused on dominant futas dominating the MC

Do we need to run the numbers again?

 

[Kroenen12]

Man, there is literally no point to this character now.

Also the writers of this game continue to prove why they couldn't survive in an actual work environment

Damn. This guy would rather his self-insert bunny be a bloated self-insert bunny corpse on the side of the road than rearrange his genitalia, because people would actually enjoy that kinda content. You gotta respect the shithousery, and also wonder how this guy got the job.

forget what i said about bad ends...

*Good end

 

[Innocuous_Kobold]

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I'd recommend never framing a decision of yours as punishment to all for the actions of a select group, Even if it is completely true just lie say it would have been too much work or you have writers block; Although being viewed as patronizing may not bother oneself it invites every troll to come poke your exposed nerve since they know you'll punish your audience for it.

Not quite as bad as the sister example of this problem which is "I will do X when everyone stops bothering me about X." but still bad, And can lead people who understand this to view you as their preferred fill in of [Sad] [Youth].

[Remember most troll types don't actually use or like whatever your forum or discord is based around and just wish to create chaos.]

Still though I have to give credit I would have copped out in an instant and made my given companion character a remarkably good actor and shapeshifter Goobold [Fully loyal to MC] that switches it's gender and form based on the scene called upon, And I'd probably add some shapeshifter sex scenes so the player could get scenes with characters that are unavailable like Garth and his wife, A scene where you can bang yourself and even have some really fun mix-up threesome's with it... That way anyone can just write RP and genderbent scenes without over complicating their own characters... The sex menu might become a nightmare to navigate after a while though if people write for them too much.

Maybe Even allow the MC to allow use of the character to companions so you can get some funny scenes, Like walking in on a sub Ryn trying really hard to act like a dom on the goobold shapeshifted as the MC.

 

[Skandranon]

Still though I have to give credit I would have copped out in an instant and made my given companion character a remarkably good actor and shapeshifter Goobold [Fully loyal to MC] that switches it's gender and form based on the scene called upon, And I'd probably add some shapeshifter sex scenes so the player could get scenes with characters that are unavailable like Garth and his wife, A scene where you can bang yourself and even have some really fun mix-up threesome's with it... That way anyone can just write RP and genderbent scenes without over complicating their own characters... The sex menu might become a nightmare to navigate after a while though if people write for them too much.

B is doing pretty much this.

Character is a genie and can turn into anyone/anything, so anyone else can wrote whatever scenes they want for them.

Ohm.

 

[Daken9]

And when was the last time Brint got anything? He's not even involved with the family subplot on his end.

Genderswapping is just a lot of work to make a character appeal to the opposite fanbase of the original for basically no net gain.

It then either stifles future development of the character as a whole (this is what's going to happen to Berwyn I'm pretty positive, don't expect any more large chunks of content for him/her ever again after this one) or one side gets neglected in favor of the other (Brint/Brienne).

It's a waste of time. Not to mention all the examples of it in this game are/will be male to female, giving the fanbase that already has by far the most content even more and taking it away from the side that already is lacking.

And I'm not even a fan of male content, but I can recognize the inherent unfairness when I see it.

Just make a new character. Unless the character really leans into the fetish of being the opposite gender (and in all of these games basically none of them have) it would accomplish exactly the same thing.

Brint is literally the male character with the most content in the game despite sharing the spotlight with the far more popular Brienne, and of course also despite being the only one who can get genderswapped. If anything, to me that's proof that no one in the team has made it their priority to write male characters or m/m content, so i truly doubt making new charactars rather than genderswapping them would change that.

I mean, i guess if Quint or Garret were give the treatment then hope for their male selves to get anything would get dimmer, but how long has it been since they got anything, again?

Weird theory time, but would be funny if Brint had gotten some of the content he has partly because of a need to measure up to Brienne, and thus if genderswapping could turn out to have a net positive effect even on the male counterparts of those otherwise forgotten characters.

 

[Innocuous_Kobold]

B is doing pretty much this.

Character is a genie and can turn into anyone/anything, so anyone else can wrote whatever scenes they want for them.

Ohm.

Oh cool! Genie wouldn't be my first pick since they tend to be almighty powerful cosmic creatures and seem like they'd be better served as a weapon variant of the Gray Goo Armor for a high end quest instead of a companion you'll likely find very near to Hawkthrone, But if it means we get a genie I'm cool with it... Frankly I'm surprised a shifter character wasn't made sooner it seems so obvious for a fetish game. Their not already in the game are they? Have I completely missed them somehow?

I uhh... Ohm? Like Ohm's Law? Omega? I think there was a youtuber called Ohm wrecker? One handed mastery? I feel like I'm missing a critical part of your message Skandra!

 

[Biostar]

And when was the last time Brint got anything?

Yeah, because Quint is a treasure trove of content.

 

[CboyC95]

Did anyone encountered any errors or issues with the save editor? All I've ever done was edit my character to make him a femboy right off the bat and nothing else, but yet I get popups saying my file is corrupted but I've never encountered any issues. Not yet at least.

 

[Innocuous_Kobold]

Did anyone encountered any errors or issues with the save editor? All I've ever done was edit my character to make him a femboy right off the bat and nothing else, but yet I get popups saying my file is corrupted but I've never encountered any issues. Not yet at least.

You can safely ignore that popup in nearly 100% of cases, You didn't even change any flags that could ACTUALLY cause a lot of damage. You'll know if you went too far when the game straight up won't load your save because you did something like giving yourself 50 material items to skip a grind on a new character later on.

The game is pretty much realizing it's save has been changed and if you have Silly mode on it'll call you a pumpkin eater instead of the usual warning.