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Coc was abandoned in large part because it was a mess. Fen was making it all up as he went. The code was apparently hard to work with, there was no clear plan or outline, there was content that couldn't be touched because it's authors ghosted and Fen didn't want to ruffle feathers, and a long lost of other things.

TiTs was Fens shot at to take all the things he learned and apply them from the beginning. And despite not being called CoC, TiTs got huge.



It wasn't a Kickstarter, it was a porn crowdfunding site called Offbeatr. I know, because I was in on it.
Those content didn't affect the main story at all as I remember who it was. Al of them were side characters so you could of just ignored them. His mistakes in CoC still run rampant in TiTs as the game ran into a complete stand still on main content and now with his libido cut, he had to pass it to others. TiTs got huge because of again, a name attached to it. At this time everyone knew who Fen was so it wasn't hard to make a huge game again. It is like John Ramero making Daikatana and getting funding because he is a big name. Offbeatr is the same as kickstarter as they both are crowdfunding so pointing that out was a moot point. Savin's patreon is at 32 while Fen's is at 35 so in retrospect TiTs is still in the lead.

It made 200k. Quite a bit...but that's, like, a few months Patreon income. For a game that's run a Patreon for like 9 years now, not much.
A few months? At 30K a month that is about 7 months of income to start up a text game. That actually makes it even worse because where the fuck did that money go to?
Steam visibility alone ensures that CoC2 is way bigger than wither other game. 16k people bought in in the first month, and that was almost 2 years ago now. CoC2 is way, way more popular than either game ever was.
I guess? But do you have the numbers for every other game to prove it is the biggest or are you assuming? Finically yes, but CoC never had a tracker so I can't be too sure.

Being the first if it's kind is exactly why it was the least popular. It had to build its fanbase from the ground up. TiTs coopted the fanbase from CoC and built on that, CoC2 took those and built on them. Every one of these games is bigger than the one before it for that reason.
Least popular on initial but this is on a strange scale because CoC "finished" and like I said, never had anything to track it's numbers. For all we know, CoC 2 could be smaller but brings in more money because of the patreon model that never existed in the past. Plus we can't even separate patreon members from steam because people are crazy enough to buy it also on Steam to have it auto update so the numbers get weird.
 

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Those content didn't affect the main story at all as I remember who it was. Al of them were side characters so you could of just ignored them. His mistakes in CoC still run rampant in TiTs as the game ran into a complete stand still on main content and now with his libido cut, he had to pass it to others. TiTs got huge because of again, a name attached to it. At this time everyone knew who Fen was so it wasn't hard to make a huge game again. It is like John Ramero making Daikatana and getting funding because he is a big name. Offbeatr is the same as kickstarter as they both are crowdfunding so pointing that out was a moot point. Savin's patreon is at 32 while Fen's is at 35 so in retrospect TiTs is still in the lead.
Have you ever played CoC1? There's little to no main story.

Find the factory, stop it; find Zetaz, defeat him; find Lethice's Stronghold, defeat the enemies inside.

That's it. That's all you need to do.

CoC1's content was very disorganized. And heavily incomplete.
 

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Maybe I'm off topic, and maybe this is going to be controversial, but I honestly expected (and kind of want) Quint to be something of a competitor to the MC's romance (literally the optional NTR threat, trying to either get in the pants or seduce the other companions....like how his dialogue always seems to imply!).

Though reading most of the comments here dulls the hope, maybe I'll just depend on the copium for more options.

(On that note, I was looking for hints on the Berwyn discussion originally but wtf nobody's writing much about it?)
 

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Those content didn't affect the main story at all as I remember who it was. Al of them were side characters so you could of just ignored them. His mistakes in CoC still run rampant in TiTs as the game ran into a complete stand still on main content and now with his libido cut, he had to pass it to others.
Nah, the issues with TiTs are completely different than the ones CoC, or at least, the big ones.

CoCs problem was that it started small and was never planned to get that big, and lack of planning beyond the next waifu character.

Tits problem was the opposite imo. The scale was HUGE. It initially had 20 planets planned, fleets, factions, comes ship mechano s and all kinds of crazy stuff. It gradually dropped planned features as dev went on until it got to something more reasonable - and then it had to be cut even more when Fen semi-retired.

TiTs shot too high.


TiTs got huge because of again, a name attached to it. At this time everyone knew who Fen was so it wasn't hard to make a huge game again. It is like John Ramero making Daikatana and getting funding because he is a big name. Offbeatr is the same as kickstarter as they both are crowdfunding so pointing that out was a moot point. Savin's patreon is at 32 while Fen's is at 35 so in retrospect TiTs is still in the lead.
Remember that CoC2 has both a whole other service in Subscribestar, AND Steam, of which Tits has neither. CoC2 is way bigger.



A few months? At 30K a month that is about 7 months of income to start up a text game. That actually makes it even worse because where the fuck did that money go to?
Paying people that work on the game. I did some spitballing on that not that long ago....

It's simply not a huge amount of money once it gets divvyed up between full time employees.

I guess? But do you have the numbers for every other game to prove it is the biggest or are you assuming? Finically yes, but CoC never had a tracker so I can't be too sure.
Makes more money, has far more exposure, has the benefit of the fanbase from the previous entries, has more content being submitted, etc.

CoC was popular for a game that had basically no exposure and existed basically on some random website on the internet you'd never visit unless someone told you about it.

I mean, you could say that we'll never know because we don't have hard numbers...but really, it's kinda all weighted in one direction.

Least popular on initial but this is on a strange scale because CoC "finished" and like I said, never had anything to track it's numbers. For all we know, CoC 2 could be smaller but brings in more money because of the patreon model that never existed in the past. Plus we can't even separate patreon members from steam because people are crazy enough to buy it also on Steam to have it auto update so the numbers get weird.
16000 people bought CoC2 in the first month alone.

It has about 6k patrons. Even if every single patron also bought it on Steam (wildly unlikely) that's still 10k more people who bought it than Patrons, in the first month.
 

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Maybe I'm off topic, and maybe this is going to be controversial, but I honestly expected (and kind of want) Quint to be something of a competitor to the MC's romance (literally the optional NTR threat, trying to either get in the pants or seduce the other companions....like how his dialogue always seems to imply!).

Though reading most of the comments here dulls the hope, maybe I'll just depend on the copium for more options.

(On that note, I was looking for hints on the Berwyn discussion originally but wtf nobody's writing much about it?)
Shit bait. No one likes Quinn and doing that would not make any sense cause A. Brienne is for you and B. Kiyoko ain't gonna do that either, C. WTF would you want that?! You voyeurs already get your content that drags everything else so leave those 2 out.
 

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New backers patch is out, but some people on the discord said they're having problems downloading it so be mindful of that.
 

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Controversial, as I expected, idk it just doesn't sit right with me that a seducer wouldn't do any...seducing, I like my fair share of options, from TF, to being a fuckboy, at least it's not something illegal.
The way I saw it was Cait/Quinn for the Voyeur/ntr kinda stuff.
Brint/Brienne/Kiyoko for something a little more Vanilla.
Berwyn/Etheryn for the fem types.
Atugia, Azzy,Agni (all As) to fill some...other stuff.
and Arona....for what Orcs do
Just a personal opinion, cause he certainly felt catered to that kink/fetish IMO.

Especially now that Ber's gone (which I still don't really know what the choices do, and only got through the tower by pure luck cause I can't find anyone mentioning a method here, maybe the search function's hard to use for me).
 
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He openly talks about wanting to fuck your girls & neither girl is interested in his ass. If Quinn just thought they were hot it would be fine but the guy talks about openly wanting to fuck them to your face and desires a "pity fuck" from Kiyoko. Toning down character dialog can actually reduce vitriol but Quinn, like over half the companions, ain't a fun character and like most Bubs character comes off like a jackass.
 

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Yea, I don't really expect them to write that kind of content for him. Just saw that he's getting new content and thought it would be a decent time to bring it up, especially since he's the way he is.
Likely he'll end up filling the MaleDom fetish for female MC I'd guess?, or they just genderbend him and call it a day
 

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Yuck, preggo stuffs.


...didn't Mai already have preg content or am I crazy?

Easily confused because it was Miko. They're basically two halves of the same coin though.

I'd be excited but, you know. TOBS is probably going to go out of his way to guilt trip the MC for them having too many mouths to feed rather than giving us an opportunity to fix the fucking problem.
 

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If you think this game's bad in that regard, don't try out TiTs :KEK: If you want a dick and you're not into futa/gay stuff, can basically only play futa yourself because the PC is looking to get dicked down at all times. It's actually half the reason i'm into this game at all, that it makes a decent enough job at not making too many assumptions about the PC's sexual preferences prior to accessing scenes (which allows me to play a male character without needing to overlook the 24/7 lust for dick).
Too late. I remember thinking several dozen times "oh cool, a hot babe to sex aaaaaaand they have a dick. Goddammit." And I'd be lying if I didn't say I wasn't a wee bit miffed because nowhere was it stated that futas were the big focus of that game. If they communicated it better, then fine, that's my bad. But to advertise yourself as a sexy space adventure game where you can play whatever, yet half the options are futa... I dunno, that feels a wee bit less like a sexy adventure and more like going to someone's magical realm.

Both CoC2 and TiTs have a big problem of setting big expectations and then being like "no, actually, you're only getting these particular kinks." That would be fine, it's not like I'm going to complain on the Dating My Daughter thread about there being incest, but they need to communicate that clearer, both in the presentation, options, and marketing. Hence why I think the writers are in too deep in their particular kinks, as they don't really respect the idea that you might not be into it 100%.

To answer what someone asked generally, despite thinking the game is poorly written and more than a bit of a mess, I find it helpful to look at media that could be great, but isn't due to some specific factor(s). Stuff where there is obvious talent and passion put into it, but where something has gone wrong. CoC 2 has a problem of smut writers trying to write a cohesive fantasy world and making both the smut and the world suffer because of it. That, and the way they organize and actually plan shit out is a travesty and should be used as Exhibit A for a lesson on how not to organize a team of writers and plan a story.
 
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Steam beta key: sdXD4hptyEoFW9sfSVVs

0.5.8 Patch Notes:

  • You can now knock up either Miko or Mai — you can’t do both on a single playthrough, since one of the sisters needs to be responsible! This comes with a ton of new scenes for Mai and revisions to all her old scenes to accommodate her pregnancy. (by Tobs)
  • Brint and Brienne got a gym expansion: you can work out with them, or “work out” with them. If they haven’t cleared the gym’s field yet, remember that they will after it’s been 3 days since you first visited it and you wake up in Hawkethorne. (by Wsan)
  • New preggo Mai busts, and Klem’s harem bust, by Moira
  • New Mai CG by Moira as well.
  • New Berwyn/Matiha CGs if they’re fuckbuddies together at the tower, by AnonArts.
P.S. If you’ve already done Miko’s path but want to see Mai’s without starting a whole new save, you can hit F12 and slam this into the console and you’ll reset Miko to being unbred. Please breed foxes responsibly!:
flags.MAIDENS_PREG_PATH = flags.MAIDENS_PREG_TS = flags.MIKO_PREG_REQ = flags.MIKO_PREG_NUM_KIDS = flags.MIKO_PREG_NUM_BIRTHS = flags.MIKO_PREG_ANN = undefined; PregManager.preg(GLOBALS.PREG_MIKO).debugEndPregnancy();
Mai CG.jpg Mai CG 2.jpg Mai CG Preg.jpg
 
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Once again Tobs with his over complicated pregnancy content "You can't bred both Miko and Mai, You can impregnate Rindo only once, You can't this You can't that blah-blah-blah" this guy still salty about how audience perceived Kiyoko and now he's ruining every possible pregnancy content-sad
 
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There is a map thing for it on the forums, but you can just move 100 tiles and get through the tower that way since there doesnt seem to be anything you'd miss by doing that.
The choices you get in it allow you to alter Berwyn's body ( vag or no vag, cock or no cock, cock size (2 inch, 10 inch ( I think) or still the 20 inch monster were used to seeng), tits (flat, small, large) and gender identity.

Sending the Matiha to Evergreen I think only gives a one off scene from what I heard, sending her to the wayfort I havent checked and keeping her at the tower lets them have a relationship which you can join as either an equal lover, a fuck buddy or nope out of I think.

You can summon the castle to you when you use a campsite. Currently Berwyn's old scenes bad end and pregging female PCs are deactivated after the quest, but they should be being added back in.
 
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