Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.18] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

I'm not sure how much people care about spoilers in here but

Damn she looks way better than as honse than demon. I actually hope we can purify her now and reacquire holy horse form. Yeah looking at the weapon and armor being identical kinda confirms it. Only other alternative is she is the original paladin's actual successor or something but I want to purify and have have the real Calisse just to spite Kas with maximum irony.

Yeah that is 100% the original form of the demon general. Whose art I forgot about intentionally lol.

But that does beg the question, if Calisse is known to be horse adjacent, why does no one question Kas before we say something about "Calisse" being sus as fuck? Unless I forgot some text, I've been pretty open bout the ADHD and dylexia issues so that's possible

Didn't know Cygames got the rights to him, though.

Anything not a horse girl is fair game to Oguri Cap. We most all become horse girls to avoid her gluttony. Perhaps Savin is onto something, he did make that his Discord pfp for a bit.

Moira should have done the art from the start. Though her being Calise was guessed by /cocg/ right from the start, well theorized.

The general twist got called so quick. Though I wasn't expecting art of her pre-anonarts form to be released. And given the variations and futa potential, I doubt her pure form will be flashback only.

I haven't found her yet and I sided with Olivia. I don't know if I ever will find her.

The comments on the update page seem to be talking about an issue with flags not being properly set. Apparently we're supposed to intentionally not side with, or just betray, her master and then avoid killing her. Haven't tested it myself though.

Come to think of it, on the imp topic, I though all imps were male and they were functionally like Goblin Slayer goblins and needed other species to reproduce? Though it's a minor observation given that despite his disdain for it, this is still a game nominally focused on TFs so transforming an imp should be fine imo. Just don't remember it happening in the first game or any existing before B's imp.

 

[Bigboi28]

Is there a soft cap on the player height? I can't get past 8' 0".

 

[NODOGAN]

Is there a soft cap on the player height? I can't get past 8' 0".

Yup, can't be taller than that without cheats

 

[Yaiba]

The general twist got called so quick. Though I wasn't expecting art of her pre-anonarts form to be released. And given the variations and futa potential, I doubt her pure form will be flashback only.

It wouldn't surprise me if that required handing the Ring of Fate to Kas so she can mess around with it and "undo" the transformation for OG Callise.

 

[Teshay]

He's shit writer specifically for tht. If you make a promise to your audience and then suddenly default on that promise.And then instead depict them as something else. Then, you are shit writer for that. It's easy for a person to get invested in something.I can get invested in a pencil if I've shown enough feeling for it.

Fair enough. It's just such a colossal waste of the characters for some spite-project. Like it's so childish, dude either didn't think about the ramifications of what he was doing or didn't care. Because alot of new bright-eyed people are going to get invested, then punched in the throat for liking Kinu and Kiyoko, then even further bullied if they like Kitsune's because of how they all act. And they never change, so there's no benefit to even being around them. They are so bad that the game generally doesn't treat them like they exist. I'd consider paying someone actual money to mod and change the kitsune to be actual likeable or just realistic where they can change their opinion of you, or just make a corruption route where you enslave them and all that. It's not like the god will be there to protect them.

Heard about that debacle?I think it was a year back that I pirated it then dug around and then checked the date. Figured it was another dead game.

Yeah, the dev guess me and others would have been excited about being ripped off and not getting the full experience. I don't got anything postive to say about that shit man. It just makes me mad.

But all we got was a shitty plot device. Aileh is another disappointment, if you don't side with Kass she (and all the dragon generals that supposedly came with herliterally disappears from the narrative, she doesn't show up as an adversary in plot-centered/adjacent points, and literally does nothing if you other than be a vessel for baby dragon antics

Her being a enemy if we went pure deus vault would be cool, but this game is too soft for shit like that. Tollus just has pathetic minion vibes. Like his whole backstory just screams, 'guy who summons true bad guy and dies for lusting for power that is beyond him'.

I'm not a connoisseur but I got my times. Ur taste is still trash for going with Arona tho.

I have depicted all Arona dislikers as wojacks in my head, therefore I have already won.

Goddamn I was spot on lol

Me when the shitty game updates has a predicable shitty update:

 

[Pizza Lord]

Come to think of it, on the imp topic, I though all imps were male and they were functionally like Goblin Slayer goblins and needed other species to reproduce? Though it's a minor observation given that despite his disdain for it, this is still a game nominally focused on TFs so transforming an imp should be fine imo. Just don't remember it happening in the first game or any existing before B's imp.

I obviously have no real authority, but I also agree my interpretation was that imps are male. I also don't think imps are (or should) be able to procreate with each other, or there'd just be way, way too many imps around (and there are just from being with other creatures).

I also wasn't under the impression (or don't recall seeing) anything that indicates they can change their forms like other demons, so it's not like they can just become female. Obviously with Ivaze and Meridryx we know there are female imps, but their rarity either implies they get stuck in figurative cages or sex service, or that they were deliberately created. Like you said, TF is a thing, but more likely it would be their progenitor that did it. We know Kas herself can alter physiology and does it to Champ often (though Champ is inherently more malleable than a normal creature, imps are not normal either), so she might get a whimsical bent every so often and sculp or mold one of her children in womb or just out before realizing it isn't really any different other than cosmetically and lose interest.

 

[Johnny Fapelbon]

This is such a silly conversation to me. Why do you care about whether there are female imps or not? Just enjoy the content and jack off.

 

[gembunny]

This is such a silly conversation to me. Why do you care about whether there are female imps or not? Just enjoy the content and jack off.

Implying there's much to enjoy and jack off to to begin with. :U

 

[Dugnutty]

I tend to hate elves. I hate the way they're usually written; haughty, long-lived, aristocratic, mystically included beings who are, by and large, irreproachable. And because of this, writers also tend to make them explicitly or indirectly responsible for the major conflict of the plot. And I don't engage with the kitsune because they are this. I don't know if they're responsible for the plot or are going to be, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I'm not a power fantasy guy, I don't want to upend societies after a single quest, but the player shouldn't be so impotent. During the very short time I engaged in roleplays, a lot of settings involved perfect elf or Japanese flavored cultures where the characters were just infuriatingly smug, and the writer treated this as a virtue. I still remember being told that I couldn't win an argument because the elf character has had two centuries to solidify his argument and that my adult human character was still a child in comparison.

 

[FurrBat]

I still remember being told that I couldn't win an argument because the elf character has had two centuries to solidify his argument and that my adult human character was still a child in comparison.

As someone who is currently playing Vermintide2 the word Mayfly will haunt my fucking dreams, the inter party talk is superb tho.

 

[GarithosPurge]

This is such a silly conversation to me. Why do you care about whether there are female imps or not? Just enjoy the content and jack off.

"Don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product."
If you're going to go through the effort of worldbuilding, then you need to stay consistent with the rules you yourself established. If you can't, then that shows poor thought and planning.

 

[Benjamin Deu Cock]

after transforming berwin interacting with him gives this error

 

[Jbuster]

So I've not been around for a while

Is the game good again? (or above mid)

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

I obviously have no real authority, but I also agree my interpretation was that imps are male. I also don't think imps are (or should) be able to procreate with each other, or there'd just be way, way too many imps around (and there are just from being with other creatures).

I also wasn't under the impression (or don't recall seeing) anything that indicates they can change their forms like other demons, so it's not like they can just become female. Obviously with Ivaze and Meridryx we know there are female imps, but their rarity either implies they get stuck in figurative cages or sex service, or that they were deliberately created. Like you said, TF is a thing, but more likely it would be their progenitor that did it. We know Kas herself can alter physiology and does it to Champ often (though Champ is inherently more malleable than a normal creature, imps are not normal either), so she might get a whimsical bent every so often and sculp or mold one of her children in womb or just out before realizing it isn't really any different other than cosmetically and lose interest.

Meridyx being an experiment makes sense but idk about B's imp. Ivaze is it? Can't really call it a Kas experiment since she hates imps but there's options. Female imps could be extremely rare, a mutation caused by something in the setting, accidental exposure to something. I mean we know imps can be affected by stuff since Zetaz from the first game comes back having been juiced up so it's not farfetched. Just wish there was some explanation given to these two deviations.

I tend to hate elves. I hate the way they're usually written; haughty, long-lived, aristocratic, mystically included beings who are, by and large, irreproachable. And because of this, writers also tend to make them explicitly or indirectly responsible for the major conflict of the plot. And I don't engage with the kitsune because they are this. I don't know if they're responsible for the plot or are going to be, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I'm not a power fantasy guy, I don't want to upend societies after a single quest, but the player shouldn't be so impotent. During the very short time I engaged in roleplays, a lot of settings involved perfect elf or Japanese flavored cultures where the characters were just infuriatingly smug, and the writer treated this as a virtue. I still remember being told that I couldn't win an argument because the elf character has had two centuries to solidify his argument and that my adult human character was still a child in comparison.

Elves must be bullied. At all costs.