Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.19] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[gembunny]

But the quest coming to an end would require Kinu to have some closure moment with Champ. And that would risk destroying Tobs' fantasy of a dysfunctional family. Horrible, I know.

Proper closure and happy families even if gained mainly in the end is Tob's kryptonite as we've already seen with the Garth family. He refuses to even give Gwyn a finish to her weird af daddy complex and that family is still busted af even after being all together again.

If he did give one, you'd have to force it out of him like with Rindo's concubinage, and even then he'd likely slip some of his bullshit in there. Or even better (worse), make it Kinu's bad ending for the champ to be a good dad to her.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

Oh my bad I wasn't clear. I meant Kinu quest and Raphael specifically not getting updated in years.

Not saying I would ever expect them to cut Kinu herself, just the Princess Blade questline that's been in Limbo for so long.

...I forgot that was even a thing.

But that's a good question. I reckon it will be handwaved in as long as nobody brings it up directly to Savin. And even then, there's a decent chance he'll handwave it in, given who's the writer and all.

I get what you're saying. It personally just rubs me the wrong way because I like her. It's not about what's wrong or right. I'm just very bias and will not change my views that Arona is the 2nd best girl of the game. Orc clans in general do the slave shit and rape is far too common in the world to be pointed at since if you lose someone will rape you. The point coc2 tried to make about orcs is that they are kinda shit at anything that isn't raiding and fighting so selling/using slaves is basically what keeps them alive. Which is pretty silly. That's world culture at that point. I want to be about to match the cruelty and fuckery of what someone else could/would do to me.

You know, we could use the opportunity to guide the "local" orc clan into usefulness. After all, the village's ironworker is an orc, having the champ push them into a better life would've been fun.

Either with or without dedicking, mind. Societies evolved from their horde stage, maybe the orcs could do it too.

I 100% believe that they did it so no one would mess with their precious OCs, specially since a few of those are commissioned characters and they might be afraid of people messing with the cashcows' money.

Valid point too, though I imagine the commission crowd hold the same level of ownership as the writers. I imagine they'd also be able to differentiate from a mod to the vanilla version, but... well.

I do kinda like the scenes you spend with Freja(dragon daughter) and wish we had a few more scenes or children with personalities. Don't get me wrong I like the cute hell-hound pups and snakes, but I wish there was more wholesome family time. Imagine a get together with all your wives/husbands and children...actually that sounds terrible now that i think of it. I don't want any accidental babies (imps) ruining shit.

It's wild to imagine that they had two named kids at the same place for a bit and yet lack even one scene featuring the two just... being children.

Now that's something someone should work with when the modding scene takes over fully.

 

[TerreCrimson]

I tried looking on the wiki but it's not much help, so I'll just ask: can I get a rundown of all the characters who have some kind of dominance mechanic with the PC, where they change how they talk to you up to and including bad ends? I am very much Savco's target audience I guess. Found so far: Evelyn, Orlaith, Evergreen, Arona, Berwyn, Kalysea, Lyla, kind of Sugo, and kind of Mara. Are there any more? My tastes are pretty obvious, I only care about women of any flavor and femmy men.

 

[Comproser]

I tried looking on the wiki but it's not much help, so I'll just ask: can I get a rundown of all the characters who have some kind of dominance mechanic with the PC, where they change how they talk to you up to and including bad ends? I am very much Savco's target audience I guess. Found so far: Evelyn, Orlaith, Evergreen, Arona, Berwyn, Kalysea, Lyla, kind of Sugo, and kind of Mara. Are there any more? My tastes are pretty obvious, I only care about women of any flavor and femmy men.

You haven't mentioned Klemaia, she can be found in the Minotaur city in the bath before midnight - has ongoing content I think you'll like. You will also like Rixx in the same place, and Annika the current end of the frost marches. Eryka from the woods is also good, and she's at the church ongoing, as long as you don't remove her curse. Oh, there's another mintoauress, Octavia.

 

[TerreCrimson]

You haven't mentioned Klemaia, she can be found in the Minotaur city in the bath before midnight - has ongoing content I think you'll like. You will also like Rixx in the same place, and Annika the current end of the frost marches. Eryka from the woods is also good, and she's at the church ongoing, as long as you don't remove her curse. Oh, there's another mintoauress, Octavia.

Thanks a bunch!

 

[Knife-wielding crab]

I tried looking on the wiki but it's not much help, so I'll just ask: can I get a rundown of all the characters who have some kind of dominance mechanic with the PC, where they change how they talk to you up to and including bad ends? I am very much Savco's target audience I guess. Found so far: Evelyn, Orlaith, Evergreen, Arona, Berwyn, Kalysea, Lyla, kind of Sugo, and kind of Mara. Are there any more? My tastes are pretty obvious, I only care about women of any flavor and femmy men.

Nikol the femboy minotaur can be changed from sub to dom and vice versa depending on what sex scene you do.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Back from my hermit's cave (thank God exams are almost over) and I see boredom has taken us. I see tht I was not misses :'(
I'll stir the pot, so my peeve is that why don't I see enough of this

Spoiler: Slinging dick like ur supposed to

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[Comproser]

Thanks a bunch!

You're welcome - I also forgot before, Oxana has progressive scences if you keep giving her oral.

 

[Teshay]

Kinu is such a sour mark especially just for the fact she has nothing to her character other than to be a vessel to make the players mad or upset just bc they can, and even ruined Kiyoko by essentially rendering her as a complete plot device for needless family drama rather than a companion. Literally the way that quest ended last time had Tobs basically try to stick it to the "murderhobo" people by making the PC go on a tirade about how much he wants to kill Raph in an extremely overprotective parent way (reasonably so, when I was still in the discord it was said by Tobs iirc that Asagiri, your other named daughter who you can't interact with, was literally planned to be in Rindo's situation and Rindo was made bc Tobs wanted to reuse the bust somehow, so if that initial idea hadn't been veto's by Savin's "don't harm the PC's children" hidden rule you'd have an(other) extremely traumatized and now physically disabled child you wouldn't be able to do anything about nor interact with much as a mom/dad) for hurting their children and Kinu HATING you and wanting to distance herself from you for some damn reason over it. Bc "Parents caring for you bad, so I will make the PC not want to be a doormat for this moment just so I can shoehorn daughter lowkey hates you for it plot."

It's clear why it was stopped. Even the futa consumers would hate it.All tobs was doing was trying to paint the pc as some type of bad person. But you can't be some murderhobo, incest, rape-dude if you aren't given a choice in the matter. I just can't get over how lame Tobs is man. He's literally that one meme of "I depected you as wojack, therefore I win". I don't go to the kitsune for their character and shit anymore. I mostly go there to bang fox wife and their god then leave. The fucking bait and switch was extremely dishonest. I wouldn't even call him a shit writer because I was invested in Kiyoko when I met her in the orb, same with Kinu. But both were terribly ruined all over some hate boner for silly shit. It's a porn game, people are going to ask for their particular type of fetishes. Just say no and move on, have that shit pinned or straight don't respond to them. Don't shit the bed and make it a problem for everyone else.

This shit is a sore subject for me because I had been baited and switched before on a porn game (Seeds of chaos), I got it early because I liked the idea and wanted to support the devs(When will i learn?). Only to figure out later on that it isn't going to be a full game with the whole story but a part 1 of 3 games. But it didn't tell you that initally, and I had a arguement with one of the devs and their supporters on steam about it. Them simply change the info to include that, and nothing was solved. That was years ago and they still haven't finished the first game.

 

[Teshay]

It's wild to imagine that they had two named kids at the same place for a bit and yet lack even one scene featuring the two just... being children.

Now that's something someone should work with when the modding scene takes over fully.

Yeah, aileh is pretty hands off. But I'm honestly expecting/wanting them to show Tollus as more of a threat by his attempting to target or harm your children. Like, make me hate him. He's more of a fly than an actual person I genuinely want to kill. Show how ruthless/desperate he is to be rid of you and Kass.

Proper closure and happy families even if gained mainly in the end is Tob's kryptonite as we've already seen with the Garth family. He refuses to even give Gwyn a finish to her weird af daddy complex and that family is still busted af even after being all together again.

If he did give one, you'd have to force it out of him like with Rindo's concubinage, and even then he'd likely slip some of his bullshit in there. Or even better (worse), make it Kinu's bad ending for the champ to be a good dad to her.

I think it might be asking too much from tobs since he most likely never experienced a proper happy family or he could just be someone who didn't appreciate his own.

You know, we could use the opportunity to guide the "local" orc clan into usefulness. After all, the village's ironworker is an orc, having the champ push them into a better life would've been fun.

Either with or without dedicking, mind. Societies evolved from their horde stage, maybe the orcs could do it too.

Sounds like a good pure option to help the orcs, but there would most likely be alot of push-back because alot of them would be afraid of losing tradition, being seen as weak by the other orc clans, or just don't believe they can change. Alot of interesting story beats there.

Both pure and corrupt routes should have that type of shit. Good and bad. Make the world feel more real.

Nikol the femboy minotaur can be changed from sub to dom and vice versa depending on what sex scene you do.

Not really tho, apparently it's all an act he puts up because he understands your prefernces. He's a true switch. Atleast from what I got from his role with the mino-miner.

 

[Teshay]

Back from my hermit's cave (thank God exams are almost over) and I see boredom has taken us. I see tht I was not misses :'(
I'll stir the pot, so my peeve is that why don't I see enough of this

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Sometimes it's nice to stroke them off, other times it's hot to see them cum hands free. I already showed you my interest in them but why not again?

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And that kids is how I met your mother, Arona.

 

[Neighborsknowmyname]

I'm currently Tobsing a new chapter

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

It's clear why it was stopped. Even the futa consumers would hate it.All tobs was doing was trying to paint the pc as some type of bad person. But you can't be some murderhobo, incest, rape-dude if you aren't given a choice in the matter. I just can't get over how lame Tobs is man. He's literally that one meme of "I depected you as wojack, therefore I win". I don't go to the kitsune for their character and shit anymore. I mostly go there to bang fox wife and their god then leave. The fucking bait and switch was extremely dishonest. I wouldn't even call him a shit writer because I was invested in Kiyoko when I met her in the orb, same with Kinu. But both were terribly ruined all over some hate boner for silly shit. It's a porn game, people are going to ask for their particular type of fetishes. Just say no and move on, have that shit pinned or straight don't respond to them. Don't shit the bed and make it a problem for everyone else.

He's shit writer specifically for tht. If you make a promise to your audience and then suddenly default on that promise.And then instead depict them as something else. Then, you are shit writer for that. It's easy for a person to get invested in something.I can get invested in a pencil if I've shown enough feeling for it.

This shit is a sore subject for me because I had been baited and switched before on a porn game (Seeds of chaos), I got it early because I liked the idea and wanted to support the devs(When will i learn?). Only to figure out later on that it isn't going to be a full game with the whole story but a part 1 of 3 games. But it didn't tell you that initally, and I had a arguement with one of the devs and their supporters on steam about it. Them simply change the info to include that, and nothing was solved. That was years ago and they still haven't finished the first game.

Heard about that debacle?I think it was a year back that I pirated it then dug around and then checked the date. Figured it was another dead game.

But I'm honestly expecting/wanting them to show Tollus as more of a threat by his attempting to target or harm your children. Like, make me hate him. He's more of a fly than an actual person I genuinely want to kill. Show how ruthless/desperate he is to be rid of you and Kass.

Ikr, wet towel of a character.
This is what I expected him to be as the narrative went on.

But all we got was a shitty plot device. Aileh is another disappointment, if you don't side with Kass she (and all the dragon generals that supposedly came with herliterally disappears from the narrative, she doesn't show up as an adversary in plot-centered/adjacent points, and literally does nothing if you other than be a vessel for baby dragon antics.

Sometimes it's nice to stroke them off, other times it's hot to see them cum hands free. I already showed you my interest in them but why not again?

I'm not a connoisseur but I got my times. Ur taste is still trash for going with Arona tho.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

It's clear why it was stopped. Even the futa consumers would hate it.All tobs was doing was trying to paint the pc as some type of bad person.

Ah yes the grievous sin of... being upset someone tried to hurt my kids? Tobs on some bullshit.

...I forgot that was even a thing.

But that's a good question. I reckon it will be handwaved in as long as nobody brings it up directly to Savin. And even then, there's a decent chance he'll handwave it in, given who's the writer and all.

At this point it'll either never be finished or we'll step on a square and randomly watch Kinu dogwalk Raphael. Also mechanically, Kinu sucks to play as. It may be a narrative thing to show she has to have a cultivation journey to beat Raphael but it's isn't fun in practice. Which is weird because I figured Tobs would've skipped that and made her OP.

Valid point too, though I imagine the commission crowd hold the same level of ownership as the writers. I imagine they'd also be able to differentiate from a mod to the vanilla version, but... well.

If a commissioner is lurker and wants to clarify please do, but based on what I know it seems that while the concept of their character is theirs still, but the CoC2 version of their commissioned character is primarily Savin's to do with as he pleases and it's running on an honor system on Savin's part to not do anything the commissioner doesn't want.

If he did give one, you'd have to force it out of him like with Rindo's concubinage, and even then he'd likely slip some of his bullshit in there. Or even better (worse), make it Kinu's bad ending for the champ to be a good dad to her.

I forgot, can we still marry Rindo if Kinu exists before the scene where we're asked to marry Rindo is started? Wonder if that accounts for Nakano potentially cucking on his other white haired fox soulmate.

Spoiler: I have no Tobs and I must Tobs, or How the Game will Really End

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[BMVV]

Hed should have been a girl.

 

[TheGhostWriter2]

He's shit writer specifically for tht. If you make a promise to your audience and then suddenly default on that promise.And then instead depict them as something else. Then, you are shit writer for that. It's easy for a person to get invested in something.I can get invested in a pencil if I've shown enough feeling for it.



Heard about that debacle?I think it was a year back that I pirated it then dug around and then checked the date. Figured it was another dead game.



Ikr, wet towel of a character.
This is what I expected him to be as the narrative went on.
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But all we got was a shitty plot device. Aileh is another disappointment, if you don't side with Kass she (and all the dragon generals that supposedly came with herliterally disappears from the narrative, she doesn't show up as an adversary in plot-centered/adjacent points, and literally does nothing if you other than be a vessel for baby dragon antics.



I'm not a connoisseur but I got my times. Ur taste is still trash for going with Arona tho.

Completely unrelated to what was being discussed but holy fuck that image is metal as hell.

 

[Aliana2974]

0.8.19 Ready.

 

[Pandect]

0.8.19 Ready.

I'm very happy that this new micro-update at least has art from someone with talent.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

You've got to be kidding me. We finally get some crumb of content with Kas, and it's a fucking threesome...

I don't care about Meridyx. She's an imp so courting her is a doomed endeavour from the start.

Dunno why Caliope's art wasn't added in the same update she was added in.
Also, Matiha/Berwyn pregnant busts where? I know they exist, just like Liulfr's portrait set.

 

[Neighborsknowmyname]

Honestly if the next update is shit, i know them mfs are lazy

Goddamn I was spot on lol