Yaiba

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The general twist got called so quick. Though I wasn't expecting art of her pre-anonarts form to be released. And given the variations and futa potential, I doubt her pure form will be flashback only.
It wouldn't surprise me if that required handing the Ring of Fate to Kas so she can mess around with it and "undo" the transformation for OG Callise.
 
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Teshay

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He's shit writer specifically for tht. If you make a promise to your audience and then suddenly default on that promise.And then instead depict them as something else. Then, you are shit writer for that. It's easy for a person to get invested in something.I can get invested in a pencil if I've shown enough feeling for it.
Fair enough. It's just such a colossal waste of the characters for some spite-project. Like it's so childish, dude either didn't think about the ramifications of what he was doing or didn't care. Because alot of new bright-eyed people are going to get invested, then punched in the throat for liking Kinu and Kiyoko, then even further bullied if they like Kitsune's because of how they all act. And they never change, so there's no benefit to even being around them. They are so bad that the game generally doesn't treat them like they exist. I'd consider paying someone actual money to mod and change the kitsune to be actual likeable or just realistic where they can change their opinion of you, or just make a corruption route where you enslave them and all that. It's not like the god will be there to protect them.
Heard about that debacle?I think it was a year back that I pirated it then dug around and then checked the date. Figured it was another dead game.
Yeah, the dev guess me and others would have been excited about being ripped off and not getting the full experience. I don't got anything postive to say about that shit man. It just makes me mad.
But all we got was a shitty plot device. Aileh is another disappointment, if you don't side with Kass she (and all the dragon generals that supposedly came with herliterally disappears from the narrative, she doesn't show up as an adversary in plot-centered/adjacent points, and literally does nothing if you other than be a vessel for baby dragon antics
Her being a enemy if we went pure deus vault would be cool, but this game is too soft for shit like that. Tollus just has pathetic minion vibes. Like his whole backstory just screams, 'guy who summons true bad guy and dies for lusting for power that is beyond him'.
I'm not a connoisseur but I got my times. Ur taste is still trash for going with Arona tho.
I have depicted all Arona dislikers as wojacks in my head, therefore I have already won.
Goddamn I was spot on lol
Me when the shitty game updates has a predicable shitty update:
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Pizza Lord

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Come to think of it, on the imp topic, I though all imps were male and they were functionally like Goblin Slayer goblins and needed other species to reproduce? Though it's a minor observation given that despite his disdain for it, this is still a game nominally focused on TFs so transforming an imp should be fine imo. Just don't remember it happening in the first game or any existing before B's imp.
I obviously have no real authority, but I also agree my interpretation was that imps are male. I also don't think imps are (or should) be able to procreate with each other, or there'd just be way, way too many imps around (and there are just from being with other creatures).

I also wasn't under the impression (or don't recall seeing) anything that indicates they can change their forms like other demons, so it's not like they can just become female. Obviously with Ivaze and Meridryx we know there are female imps, but their rarity either implies they get stuck in figurative cages or sex service, or that they were deliberately created. Like you said, TF is a thing, but more likely it would be their progenitor that did it. We know Kas herself can alter physiology and does it to Champ often (though Champ is inherently more malleable than a normal creature, imps are not normal either), so she might get a whimsical bent every so often and sculp or mold one of her children in womb or just out before realizing it isn't really any different other than cosmetically and lose interest.
 

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I tend to hate elves. I hate the way they're usually written; haughty, long-lived, aristocratic, mystically included beings who are, by and large, irreproachable. And because of this, writers also tend to make them explicitly or indirectly responsible for the major conflict of the plot. And I don't engage with the kitsune because they are this. I don't know if they're responsible for the plot or are going to be, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I'm not a power fantasy guy, I don't want to upend societies after a single quest, but the player shouldn't be so impotent. During the very short time I engaged in roleplays, a lot of settings involved perfect elf or Japanese flavored cultures where the characters were just infuriatingly smug, and the writer treated this as a virtue. I still remember being told that I couldn't win an argument because the elf character has had two centuries to solidify his argument and that my adult human character was still a child in comparison.
 

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I still remember being told that I couldn't win an argument because the elf character has had two centuries to solidify his argument and that my adult human character was still a child in comparison.
As someone who is currently playing Vermintide2 the word Mayfly will haunt my fucking dreams, the inter party talk is superb tho.
 

GarithosPurge

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This is such a silly conversation to me. Why do you care about whether there are female imps or not? Just enjoy the content and jack off.
"Don't ask questions, just consume product and get excited for next product."
If you're going to go through the effort of worldbuilding, then you need to stay consistent with the rules you yourself established. If you can't, then that shows poor thought and planning.
 

CrimsonSongbird1982

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I obviously have no real authority, but I also agree my interpretation was that imps are male. I also don't think imps are (or should) be able to procreate with each other, or there'd just be way, way too many imps around (and there are just from being with other creatures).

I also wasn't under the impression (or don't recall seeing) anything that indicates they can change their forms like other demons, so it's not like they can just become female. Obviously with Ivaze and Meridryx we know there are female imps, but their rarity either implies they get stuck in figurative cages or sex service, or that they were deliberately created. Like you said, TF is a thing, but more likely it would be their progenitor that did it. We know Kas herself can alter physiology and does it to Champ often (though Champ is inherently more malleable than a normal creature, imps are not normal either), so she might get a whimsical bent every so often and sculp or mold one of her children in womb or just out before realizing it isn't really any different other than cosmetically and lose interest.
Meridyx being an experiment makes sense but idk about B's imp. Ivaze is it? Can't really call it a Kas experiment since she hates imps but there's options. Female imps could be extremely rare, a mutation caused by something in the setting, accidental exposure to something. I mean we know imps can be affected by stuff since Zetaz from the first game comes back having been juiced up so it's not farfetched. Just wish there was some explanation given to these two deviations.

I tend to hate elves. I hate the way they're usually written; haughty, long-lived, aristocratic, mystically included beings who are, by and large, irreproachable. And because of this, writers also tend to make them explicitly or indirectly responsible for the major conflict of the plot. And I don't engage with the kitsune because they are this. I don't know if they're responsible for the plot or are going to be, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I'm not a power fantasy guy, I don't want to upend societies after a single quest, but the player shouldn't be so impotent. During the very short time I engaged in roleplays, a lot of settings involved perfect elf or Japanese flavored cultures where the characters were just infuriatingly smug, and the writer treated this as a virtue. I still remember being told that I couldn't win an argument because the elf character has had two centuries to solidify his argument and that my adult human character was still a child in comparison.
Elves must be bullied. At all costs.
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Meridyx being an experiment makes sense but idk about B's imp. Ivaze is it? Can't really call it a Kas experiment since she hates imps but there's options. Female imps could be extremely rare, a mutation caused by something in the setting, accidental exposure to something. I mean we know imps can be affected by stuff since Zetaz from the first game comes back having been juiced up so it's not farfetched. Just wish there was some explanation given to these two deviations.


Elves must be bullied. At all costs.
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Gremlins 2 rule; there are no female gremlins but the oddly erotic girl gremlin born due to an experiment (I love that every time she moves or does something there's this soft gasp/moan she makes)
 

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I'm not a power fantasy guy, I don't want to upend societies after a single quest.
You can have power fantasy with elaborate and well thought plans that justify any drastic change. Take the place of Sarevok in baldurs gate 1, this is what his dark power fantasy was about:

Step 1: Poisoning the Iron Supply
Sarevok's agents infiltrated the Nashkel Mines, the primary source of iron for the region. They tainted the ore with a subtle poison derived from Durlag's Tower. This didn't just spoil the raw ore; it cursed all weapons and armor forged from it to crumble into rust and dust after minimal use. This created region-wide panic as essential tools and defenses failed.

Step 2: Highway Robbery and Famine
To exacerbate the shortage, Sarevok hired a vast bandit army, led by the half-orc Tazok. These bandits systematically raided legitimate shipments of untainted iron along the Coast Way and the Trade Way, cutting off the normal supply chain and driving up prices exponentially.

Step 3: Sabotage of Competition
Sarevok used the mercenary group the Iron Throne, of which his adoptive father Rieltar was a leader, as his primary vehicle. He systematically sabotaged rival merchant organizations, particularly the Seven Suns and the Merchant's League in Baldur's Gate, using doppelgangers to disrupt their operations from within and eliminate leaders.

Step 4: Pinning the Blame on Amn
As tensions rose, Sarevok strategically spread rumors and misinformation implicating the southern nation of Amn in the crisis. This turned an economic problem into a potential international conflict, stoking nationalist outrage in Baldur's Gate.

Step 5: Gaining Public Trust and Control of the Iron Throne
The Iron Throne, now largely under Sarevok's command, offered to be the city's salvation by providing a new, untouched source of iron from the Cloakwood Mines (controlled by the villainous mage Demin, whom Sarevok had co-opted). Sarevok presented himself as the only man capable of securing resources and defending the city. Simultaneously, he had his father, Rieltar, assassinated at the merchant organization's headquarters, ensuring his full command of the criminal empire.

Step 6: Eliminating Political Rivals
Sarevok began a spree of assassinations targeting anyone who stood in his way of becoming a Grand Duke, the highest governing title in the city.

Step 7: The Coronation Plot
With public support and the only remaining Grand Duke, Ulder Ravengard (leader of the Flaming Fist), conveniently away leading troops to the Amn border, Sarevok was nominated to fill the vacant Grand Duke seat. His plan was to secure the title legally and officially declare war on Amn immediately following his coronation.

Step 8: The Ritual of Ascension
Sarevok needed a massive war to create sufficient carnage, but he also needed a specific, potent source of death: his own Bhaalspawn siblings. He attempted to eliminate the player character and others early on. Ultimately, the war itself was the main ritual.

The whole plan was to create a massive war to fuel his chance to ascend to godhood.
 
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