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To be honest, why is the giant breastplate the only transformation that can bypass the 8 feet tall mark? I'm now 8 feet 6 inches tall, the same height as Brienne.
 

muschi26

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If you don’t mind me asking, are you guys who’re into m/m gay or bi? or do you still consider yourselves straight?
 
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My problem with CoC 2 comes from the inconsistency & the blatant dishonesty on the end of the Devs. Also, as of late, the quality of the writing has fallen apart like a sandcastle in a hurricane, it's below some of the stuff written for CoC 1, ironically at times written by the same person.
I dunno, I agree with you but at the same time imo I feel like the problem is less the writing in particular and more of some of the original writers' projects being overshadowed by the newer wave, making the older projects stick out horribly. What I mean is compare aileh and freja to kiyoko and kinu. Directly connected to story and other romantic interest, better parent sim, no forced parental issues, can interact with and name kid, varied smut scenes.

And also if the foundation is weak what's built on top suffers. if you have a scene by wsan, continuing the current course, where you go on a date with brint/brienne and they hug and bang mc or you propose to them and it's a very emotional moment, it's a safe bet people will be happy and might make people who were on the fence like them because they've already been made likeable and are getting more reasons.

if tobs made more kiyoko content, most likely it would have the same or more of her abrasive comments and personality and would appeal primarily to people who would like it regardless. If he attempted to give kiyoko a character arc where she respected your character, was harsher on people who insult you, was more proactive with you and *wanted* you to join her in doing stuff together besides smut, and honestly just retconned the entire novella, then to make her as near universally likeable for her niche as brienne is now without altering what's already there you'd need double the work. To change her to a "neutral" reception where maybe it's not super common to like her but she's not worse the more you observe her actions, then to create moments to build player attachment like briennes little date moments, seeking you out and saying she needs you etc. (Which you'd think a kitsune would do when they're hungry and married to you). That's unlikely but possible. Issue is that's the case with several characters now, see caits reception for the past however many years, the marriage scene fiasco, stuff like the lusamine gangbang while you wait outside scene etc etc
 

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Kinda random but I just now had to ask Tobs something on the forum, and his answer was so incredibly laconic that it made me laugh. Is this gap moe?
 

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MY PEOPLE!
Still, what kind of twink (be it in looks or personality) do you want?
Long as they have a nice ass, I'm pretty amenable. Berwyn is my favorite male character so probably in that ballpark for best results personality wise.
are you guys who’re into m/m gay or bi? or do you still consider yourselves straight?
Mostly straight I guess. If it's feminine enough then it'll do it for me. I wouldn't go out with a guy irl but I've seen traps cute enough to confuse my dick. Basically:
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Long as they have a nice ass, I'm pretty amenable. Berwyn is my favorite male character so probably in that ballpark for best results personality wise.

Mostly straight I guess. If it's feminine enough then it'll do it for me. I wouldn't go out with a guy irl but I've seen traps cute enough to confuse my dick. Basically:
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ok whats the source of that image because if its a comic i kinda wanna read it.
 

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Long as they have a nice ass, I'm pretty amenable. Berwyn is my favorite male character so probably in that ballpark for best results personality wise.

Mostly straight I guess. If it's feminine enough then it'll do it for me. I wouldn't go out with a guy irl but I've seen traps cute enough to confuse my dick. Basically:
This is kinda where I'm at.
Strictly into chicks, but occasionally will turn a blind eye to that rule to take a Crack at Sugo or somethin.
 
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I dunno, I agree with you but at the same time imo I feel like the problem is less the writing in particular and more of some of the original writers' projects being overshadowed by the newer wave, making the older projects stick out horribly. What I mean is compare aileh and freja to kiyoko and kinu. Directly connected to story and other romantic interest, better parent sim, no forced parental issues, can interact with and name kid, varied smut scenes.

And also if the foundation is weak what's built on top suffers. if you have a scene by wsan, continuing the current course, where you go on a date with brint/brienne and they hug and bang mc or you propose to them and it's a very emotional moment, it's a safe bet people will be happy and might make people who were on the fence like them because they've already been made likeable and are getting more reasons.

if tobs made more kiyoko content, most likely it would have the same or more of her abrasive comments and personality and would appeal primarily to people who would like it regardless. If he attempted to give kiyoko a character arc where she respected your character, was harsher on people who insult you, was more proactive with you and *wanted* you to join her in doing stuff together besides smut, and honestly just retconned the entire novella, then to make her as near universally likeable for her niche as brienne is now without altering what's already there you'd need double the work. To change her to a "neutral" reception where maybe it's not super common to like her but she's not worse the more you observe her actions, then to create moments to build player attachment like briennes little date moments, seeking you out and saying she needs you etc. (Which you'd think a kitsune would do when they're hungry and married to you). That's unlikely but possible. Issue is that's the case with several characters now, see caits reception for the past however many years, the marriage scene fiasco, stuff like the lusamine gangbang while you wait outside scene etc etc
I think the root of the issues is that the writers aren't forced by Savin to adhere to the "CYO" aspect that supposedly is 1 of the core things of the game. Instead they are encouraged to just "write what they want" which, at first sight, might seem like a reasonable approach, but on a second look turns out to be just an expression of lack of professionalism. You can't create interactive fiction when you allow the writers to just constantly add stuff that is nothing but their own, personal, fanfiction. There has to be a certain degree of discipline and I feel as if the writers don't get enough clear directions what has to be included and especially not forced to do it. The problem is that that equals to simply not doing your job properly, which would get you fired normally. Savin, though, seems to struggle to understand that business and personal friendships only go along up to a certain point. If your employees start to act out towards your customers, cause they can't take criticism (and have been told 1 too many times that they are basically the Tolkien of smut) you need to enforce certain limits to their behavior. If not for Patreon (and the problems that come with getting limitless money for basically "nothing") CoC 2 would have flopped badly by now.

I do agree with what you say as well, though, of course it doesn't really work to add good stuff on a pile of poop. In regards to the Kitsune stuff (which I think is 1 of the weakest parts of the game for sure) I will say that it's not about changing what exists (cause I truly don't want those who like it in it's current form to be fucked over just cause a majority of players seem to loath it) but about getting his act together, stop being a freakin baby that's deadly offended by people not praising every word he wrote, and add alternative ways for the player character to act towards the Kitsune & especially in regards to Kiyoko & Kinu being ungrateful pieces of crap. It's that lack of actual choices that make the game fail to remotely meet it's advertised features.
 
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