danb35

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And I honestly want to know what she wants to talk about with MC, but it makes total sense that he is very, very unhappy with her.
I strongly suspect it's something at least moving toward an apology. And if that's the case, it completely explains her behavior on both occasions:
  • At the cafe, she wants to speak with MC privately, which she'd naturally want to do if apologizing (though she certainly should include Hannah as well, she has a lot more to apologize to MC for). MC, however, wisely doesn't want to be in the same room with her without witnesses.
  • At school, she wants to talk with him, but can't seem to spit it out. Again, entirely consistent with her trying to apologize--that wouldn't be easy for her; she'd definitely be at a loss for words. MC has things to do and places to be.
MC doesn't even have to be upset with her for his behavior in both cases to make sense--but of course he is, and for good reason.

And of course, if Rachel is heading toward redemption, she's going to have to apologize. Still not sure how I feel about that, though--I'm sure it's a character flaw on my part, but some characters are far enough gone that I don't especially want to see them redeemed. Cass in Artemis, for example. I'm not quite sure Rachel is in that category, but it isn't for want of trying.
 

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...and on some of the other girls:
  • Alison - Generally like her, and generally trust that she's telling the truth--but as Obi-Wan said, "from a certain point of view," to be specific, her own. I trust that she at least believes she's acting with good motives, but I'm not as sure that she's right.
  • Lily - Inclined to agree with Sarah about her (after all, Sarah knows her much better), but she seemed sincere about not knowing about the photo. I can't honestly say I mind the effect of that (in that it pushed MC and Sarah together), though I suspect it just acted to hasten what would have happened anyway (after all, Lucy really loves MC, and I'm pretty sure that would have rubbed off on Sarah in due course anyway). And the plan honestly seems kind of far-fetched--there are just so many ways it could have gone differently. Perhaps I just need to dismiss that and chalk it up to "porn logic."
  • Hannah - I want to like her, but she's making it difficult. But the red hair/green eyes combination is definitely attractive.
  • Catherine - She's got some work to do.
  • Rachel - I might be surprised and enjoy her redemption, but right now I wouldn't mind her disappearing from the game.
  • Annabelle - I'm not sure what the deal is with her. I'm also not sure why the in-game bio calls her a "girl" when it also says she's 55 years old (but then, it also says Sarah's father is 20, so maybe that's another bug; perhaps the two ages are swapped). She doesn't look 55 (other than her white hair). Presumably she's in, or tied to, a founding family.
I said earlier that this somehow feels really wholesome, odd as that is to say about a porn game. I'm not entirely sure why that is, but I think a lot of it has to do with MC, in that he just seems like a generally decent guy:
  • He takes the girls home at night, even the ones he doesn't like that much (Hannah and especially Catherine)
  • He took Sarah home at night not knowing why she wanted him to; once he learned, he's been there every morning and evening since. Sure, he already (kind of) liked her at that point, but that's still putting himself out a bit. I don't especially give him credit for continuing to do so on Day 26; by that point, although he won't use the words, he's in love with her.
  • He stands up for his girls, to potential physical threat on more than one occasion.
But all of this is true of MC in Harem Hotel, Eternum, and others, at least in general terms, and I don't quite get the wholesome vibe from them. What's different is how MC handles the harem here. Lucy springs the question of being his girlfriend, at the same time saying she'd be OK with other girls. And MC immediately comes up with what seems like a very fair way to handle it: once you're "in," you're all equals (in theory; Lucy's still the Queen Bee), no secrets, you can veto anyone else, you can say "no" to anything. I don't know that this quite explains the feeling I get from the game, but it's a notable distinction compared to others in my experience.

Or maybe it's just that he's trying so hard to convince Sarah she's attractive. I dunno.
 

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...and on some of the other girls:
  • Alison - Generally like her, and generally trust that she's telling the truth--but as Obi-Wan said, "from a certain point of view," to be specific, her own. I trust that she at least believes she's acting with good motives, but I'm not as sure that she's right.
  • Lily - Inclined to agree with Sarah about her (after all, Sarah knows her much better), but she seemed sincere about not knowing about the photo. I can't honestly say I mind the effect of that (in that it pushed MC and Sarah together), though I suspect it just acted to hasten what would have happened anyway (after all, Lucy really loves MC, and I'm pretty sure that would have rubbed off on Sarah in due course anyway). And the plan honestly seems kind of far-fetched--there are just so many ways it could have gone differently. Perhaps I just need to dismiss that and chalk it up to "porn logic."
  • Hannah - I want to like her, but she's making it difficult. But the red hair/green eyes combination is definitely attractive.
  • Catherine - She's got some work to do.
  • Rachel - I might be surprised and enjoy her redemption, but right now I wouldn't mind her disappearing from the game.
  • Annabelle - I'm not sure what the deal is with her. I'm also not sure why the in-game bio calls her a "girl" when it also says she's 55 years old (but then, it also says Sarah's father is 20, so maybe that's another bug; perhaps the two ages are swapped). She doesn't look 55 (other than her white hair). Presumably she's in, or tied to, a founding family.
I said earlier that this somehow feels really wholesome, odd as that is to say about a porn game. I'm not entirely sure why that is, but I think a lot of it has to do with MC, in that he just seems like a generally decent guy:
  • He takes the girls home at night, even the ones he doesn't like that much (Hannah and especially Catherine)
  • He took Sarah home at night not knowing why she wanted him to; once he learned, he's been there every morning and evening since. Sure, he already (kind of) liked her at that point, but that's still putting himself out a bit. I don't especially give him credit for continuing to do so on Day 26; by that point, although he won't use the words, he's in love with her.
  • He stands up for his girls, to potential physical threat on more than one occasion.
But all of this is true of MC in Harem Hotel, Eternum, and others, at least in general terms, and I don't quite get the wholesome vibe from them. What's different is how MC handles the harem here. Lucy springs the question of being his girlfriend, at the same time saying she'd be OK with other girls. And MC immediately comes up with what seems like a very fair way to handle it: once you're "in," you're all equals (in theory; Lucy's still the Queen Bee), no secrets, you can veto anyone else, you can say "no" to anything. I don't know that this quite explains the feeling I get from the game, but it's a notable distinction compared to others in my experience.

Or maybe it's just that he's trying so hard to convince Sarah she's attractive. I dunno.
The age switch is a known bug that will be corrected, I believe, in the next release.

It should read:

Annabelle = 20

Mr. Hamilton = 55

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

danb35

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Other stories have MC being "nice" to girls. In here, they have actual relationships.
I don't really think that's it; I'd say MC has actual relationships with the girls in Eternum and Harem Hotel, the other two I'd mentioned, as well as a variety of others--but at the risk of straying too far OT for this thread I'll leave that. The clarity and explicitness of the harem arrangement here are unique among VNs in my experience, and I think that's a good thing, but I don't think that's why I have warm fuzzies.

As I think more about it, I think it's more this:
maybe it's just that he's trying so hard to convince Sarah she's attractive.
...and things like it. The "get Akatsuki back" sequence, especially Akira's reaction to seeing MC: "you must really care for my little sister." Deciding everyone can sleep over, to avoid blowing Catherine's secret (and he doesn't even like her). Arranging to use the school's pool, mostly for Sarah's benefit (ulterior motive there? Maybe).
 

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It's not how relationships work in real life.
No less so than this, surely? Even if we hand-wave away "beautiful women constantly throwing themselves at MC" (a necessary feature of the genre), a relationship in which the first overtly romantic overture is, "I want to be your girlfriend and I'm OK with your having other girls too" hardly seems realistic. Nor does the 18-year-old MC, who's never so much as had a girlfriend, immediately responding with what seems like a pretty well-thought-out set of ground rules for the harem. Nor does Akatsuki instantly going for MC's cock. Nor, for that matter, does, "if you work at the cafe, you're going to strip, and you're going to get spanked."

It's fantasy, and that's OK. I can file this under "suspension of disbelief," just as I can with many of the others (OiaL stretched it a bit).
 

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No less so than this, surely? Even if we hand-wave away "beautiful women constantly throwing themselves at MC" (a necessary feature of the genre), a relationship in which the first overtly romantic overture is, "I want to be your girlfriend and I'm OK with your having other girls too" hardly seems realistic. Nor does the 18-year-old MC, who's never so much as had a girlfriend, immediately responding with what seems like a pretty well-thought-out set of ground rules for the harem. Nor does Akatsuki instantly going for MC's cock. Nor, for that matter, does, "if you work at the cafe, you're going to strip, and you're going to get spanked."

It's fantasy, and that's OK. I can file this under "suspension of disbelief," just as I can with many of the others (OiaL stretched it a bit).
Yes there is a little bit of suspension of belief, and maybe a bit of porn logic. However a few points:
* MC has had girlfriends in the past, one of them will be the 13th love interest in the future. Edit: So it has been pointed out to me, that yes, the MC never said the 13th LI was a girlfriend. Just a girl, he was friends with (and probably friends with benefits). So yes, Lucy was his first "official" girlfriend.
* The MC didn't have a harem in mind when he started out, he just didn't want to be tied down. It grew naturally, with Lucy pushing the MC to like more girls. What guy would say no to "you can have more girls if you want".
* The spanking thing, was a punishment thing for screwing up in training. Lucy liked it and instituted it for the other girls (as the head waitress), and the MC, being the MC, said sure.
* The game does have a Cosy (or Cozy) feel, thus the name.
* Akatsuki going straight for the MC, it took a few days, and she kinda dug him, and she was roleplaying the whole pet cat thing. yes a bit over the top, but not entirely unheard of.
 
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Annabelle is a VAMPIRE!!!!

just kidding, but she is listed as being age 55, I assume that is an error? Well anyway maybe someday she will be in the Main Love Interest category. I really like her look. I personally would rather have her than say... Misaki.

Speaking of Misaki, I personally think she knows it is the MC messing with her, she would be able to see his face in the reflection of the window of the train, and she would definitely recognize the school uniform when he is groping her breast, she looks right at his arm.

but that is just my theory.

anyway much love to Cosy Creator for making such a great game.
peace
 

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Annabelle is a VAMPIRE!!!!

just kidding, but she is listed as being age 55, I assume that is an error? Well anyway maybe someday she will be in the Main Love Interest category. I really like her look. I personally would rather have her than say... Misaki.
It was a mistake in the code, and fixed in 11.1.
 
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