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jadepaladin

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where Rachel? :KEK:
Honestly, I'm not sure what I want to do with her. I'm also trying to arbitrarily hold myself to the 10 girl limit that was mentioned (and will probably be adjusted) and I'd rather have Akari and Elizabeth to round things out. I don't hate Rachel or anything like some people here do, it's just a hard sell on her getting a choker. Maybe Cosy will convince me over the next few chapters. I just hope Catherine gets a choker before Rachel does, if it's going to happen.
 

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Honestly, I'm not sure what I want to do with her. I'm also trying to arbitrarily hold myself to the 10 girl limit that was mentioned (and will probably be adjusted) and I'd rather have Akari and Elizabeth to round things out. I don't hate Rachel or anything like some people here do, it's just a hard sell on her getting a choker. Maybe Cosy will convince me over the next few chapters. I just hope Catherine gets a choker before Rachel does, if it's going to happen.
well it being a kinetic VN with only a few superficial choices, I don't think it matter whether or not we like Rachel, game seems to be going into that direction either way. But she needs a lot of buildup, kinda like Sarah did (not exactly like that obviously, they are very different characters, but it also took a long time for the Sarah route to develop...)
 
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If we would have at least one or two non-ntr male characters (for example Chang-Eternum) I would give this game a perfect 10/10.
I would personally love for the MC in these harem AVNs to have at least a male friend who doesn't want to screw him over, but is a good friend the MC could count on
Right now it's a 9.99/10 :D
What do you mean?
1- we have Vickys brother
2- we have the produce supplier who wants us to meet his family
3- guessing we will get a redemption for Akatsukis dad
4- Hannahs dad joining us will probably be a big plot point
5- Catherines dad will also probably get a redemption as well
How meany do you need And at what point does it start to take away from the story.
Also with what happens around the mc and the cafe how would a male friend fit in.
 

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What do you mean?
1- we have Vickys brother
2- we have the produce supplier who wants us to meet his family
3- guessing we will get a redemption for Akatsukis dad
4- Hannahs dad joining us will probably be a big plot point
5- Catherines dad will also probably get a redemption as well
How meany do you need And at what point does it start to take away from the story.
Also with what happens around the mc and the cafe how would a male friend fit in.
What I mean is for the MC to have a good guy friend, his age, he can relate too, he can spend some guy time with (pretty much like Chang-Eternum who is a good guy friend to Orion and doesn't impose himself on his harem)

Sure Danny, the baker, and the 3 fathers will probably be by MCs side at the end of the story, but none of them could be what you would call a friend. More like mentors/men to take advice from.

But as it was pointed out above, people would get all pissy and whiny if MC had a good male friend, since they believe he'd interfere with the harem

As for how he would fit, again, I repeat myself into oblivion, but Chang is a good example, we don't see him and Orion hanging out all the time but we know they have a solid friendship and they can count on one another when they need to. If I were to involve a guy friend, just have him be a customer who eats often at MC's cafe and have like one/two scenes where they have some guy time, where MC tells him about his problems and the friend offers his advice and/or help if needed.

But alas, I don't think this is such a big issue to give the story flack over, but for me, at least it is a preference for a male MC to have at least one close male friend.
 

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What I mean is for the MC to have a good guy friend, his age, he can relate too, he can spend some guy time with (pretty much like Chang-Eternum who is a good guy friend to Orion and doesn't impose himself on his harem)
I'm very happy this doesn't exist here because I generally hate these characters, Chang is the rare exception. They're usually actively stupid and only exist to pull the MC into situations that get him into trouble.

One that was kinda like Chang who doesn't get much screentime and when he is around is an actual bro without being incredibly dumb would be okay.
 
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Ahlysaaria

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What I mean is for the MC to have a good guy friend, his age, he can relate too, he can spend some guy time with (pretty much like Chang-Eternum who is a good guy friend to Orion and doesn't impose himself on his harem)
So, I kinda agree with this from a realism standpoint. I was actually playing the new content these days and that was something I thought about. It's not really realistic to come into a new town and don't form any real male friendships/relationships.

That being said: I also don't really see what it would really add to the story other then a touch of realism. (and lets be perfectly honest, the fact that the MC comes to a new city and not even 4 weeks later has multiple confirmed girlfriends as well as several more in the works, that all accept to share the MC with each other is highly unrealistic in itself.)
Aside from realism I don't really see what a male friend character would bringt to the story thats missing right now. He could maybe serve as someone trustworthy that the MC can tell things he doesn't want to talk about with the girls - but thats unecessary atleast in this particular story with our MC since he is very direct and open with the girls.
Or its a Comic-Relief character, but again, I don't feel that necessary here with the humor between the girls/the girls and MC.

Also, the friend who doesn't impose on the harem comes with its own problem - like how realistic is it that the MC has a Harem with 10 girls at once and your best friend will just be like "Yeah, thats totally fine and completely normal, no problem at all". I don't feel like that would be realistic, so it's something you have to deal with on it's own.

With your Example Chang that for example is solved by giving him his own disctinct Love-Interest of his own to pursue basically in the first 5 minutes (who is also, most likely deliberately, designed in a specific way to not invoke jealousy in the majority of the playerbase). Or you open the Sharing-option, which comes with its own can of worms considering the very strong feelings this invokes in some players. (Or you could make the best friend Gay, but again potentially controversial)

So yeah, long text but - from a pure realism standpoint I agree that it would make sense to have a male friend but considering that the point of the game is not to be perfectly realistic considering the 10 girlfriends-harem premise thats not a big problem for me. And I don't really see what it would really add positively to the character dynamics that we already have.

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And since I'm already here, might just give my general thoughts. Last played it about a year ago when it was 0.6 or 0.7 I think.
I really like the new content and how everything is developing with the Story, how the new characters are included etc. Absolutely one of the games where it's actually really fun and and enjoyable to just read for the banter and the story. I also like how the characters are all quite distinct from each other with their own storys, conflicts and interests etc.
Seeing Catherine open up a bit for example was quite nice etc.
I also just quite like the MC in general - espescially how he is generally just quite honest and communicating open and clear which avoids alot of "fake" drama stemming from people missunderstanding each other.

I also kinda like the scene with Rachels "punishment" or rather the lack thereof. Although it makes me wonder where to go with her character from here on. Personally I feel Rachel is kinda at a dead end here,s o curious to see what will happen - assuming there will be more to happen considering she is listed both in the Gallery as well as a Main characters in the bios.

So yeah, definitely looking forward to future updates and how story/characters will continue to develop from here.
 

mordred93

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I'm not saying this should've happened in the game because it's an important part of the story. But like I said, it's a situation that I struggle to suspend my disbelief in. This was my original point from my 1st post, where I was mostly lamenting about male npcs in harem games generally.
You understand the story aspect, I will give a little more from an IRL aspect. Many people in school, only had a few close friends, and they were of the same gender. I went through school and had 3 close-ish friends and they were guys (me being a guy). Several girls I knew, only had a few friends and they were all girls. Most women I talk to in about high school didn't cross-pollinate gendered friends because they were socially awkward, or if they did, they had to be really close (like grew up together). Otherwise, they felt that the friendship was being used for trying to get sex or a relationship. People at that age are dumb, and cannot understand personal motives, because their brains haven't fully developed yet.

TL;DR - Most girls that age, have a few close female friends, and no close male friends they can count on unless they are dating someone.
 

Kaeng_Nai

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lets ask cosy to trade Rachel for Harriet
Counterargument: Annabelle instead of Harriet

Anyways, now that I've completed the update by consuming the wholesomeness as I needed it over the last couple of weeks, here are a few thoughts:
1. Catherine being broke as a plot point made sense to me, but seeing that she was super broke and taking care of those two little girls made me a little emotional. To the point where I honestly might take Lily's side and say that Catherine should get married before Sarah, just to help her sisters sooner
2. Rachel's redemption arc is gonna need some work to make her a character that is actually liked by the players, but I wonder if there is a way for Cosy to make her redeemed in Lucy's eyes. With a 10 girlfriend limit and 11 Primary love interests, someone has to exist outside the harem, I wonder if it'll ultimately be Rachel who sits on the sidelines because Lucy will never approve of her?
3. Misaki is a weird spot for me, I don't find necessarily find her content boring but I do find it disconnected. I think it stems from how the relationship started in a physical place, whereas the main harem (Lucy, Vicky, Akatsuki, Sarah, Hannah, Catherine) is about building an emotional relationship and growing a steady physical relationship alongside it. I like the steps its taking, but Misaki still feels so disconnected from every other thing in the story, to the point all of her content feels like it's on its own island.
4. The photoshoot with Sarah was the cutest fucking thing, I was smiling like an idiot the whole time. Super happy for her to finally have her own collar, it's been so long that I've just seen her as a girlfriend for the MC that I actually forgot it wasn't official yet. Sarah best girl.
5. Is there an amount of money I can pay to Cosy to make Goth Akatsuki permanent? I know someone else asked, but seriously, what a great design for her.

Overall I'm super happy to see all the story lines progressing, but with the girlfriend limit having been given a number I can't help but wonder who will end up getting excluded. Of course, the number could always change.

Super happy for the update, and eagerly awaiting the next, regardless of whether the weekend up has to be broken up into 1 or 2 updates.

Thank you for the consistently amazing work, Cosy!

P.S. Just to weigh in the whole "male friend" convo, nothing in the story is realistic from the beginning, the MC enters the cafe, starts cleaning for a day, and then meets a random girl, asks her name, and gives her money. Less than a week later, same girl is being removed her home and moved in with him. He's a wild card, it makes sense that he doesn't operate in a normal or realistic manner.
 

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Just a thought. Viki has agreed with the MC upon a limit of 10 GFs. At the moment there is 11 MGs in the BIOs. I wonder who's out, Rachel or Elizabeth? :unsure:
 

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Why do people take the 10 girlfriend thing as written in stone? It's an arbitrary number the girls made up and can change.
 
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jadepaladin

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Just a thought. Viki has agreed with the MC upon a limit of 10 GFs. At the moment there is 11 MGs in the BIOs. I wonder who's out, Rachel or Elizabeth? :unsure:
I think a discussion of who was main came up last year but my memory is fuzzy.

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May I just say something?
All the girls (and the MC) working at the restaurant (seriously, this is not a coffee shop) are by far the best, most efficient personnel I've seen in the industry. Like, even high-end places, where I've been working for had something like 5% scrap orders (usually enough to feed the whole staff) be it because the clients are jerks, misunderstandings with orders, etc. Maybe I should tell the next one that spankings would improve the service considerably :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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May I just say something?
All the girls (and the MC) working at the restaurant (seriously, this is not a coffee shop) are by far the best, most efficient personnel I've seen in the industry. Like, even high-end places, where I've been working for had something like 5% scrap orders (usually enough to feed the whole staff) be it because the clients are jerks, misunderstandings with orders, etc. Maybe I should tell the next one that spankings would improve the service considerably :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
The spankings will continue until service improves.
 

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The spankings will continue until service improves.
In all seriousness, most people are clock punchers. They care about doing a good job if you're lucky. Their attention wanders and they make mistakes. That's your typical GOOD low-level employees, especially today when people hang out in the bathroom and play on their smart phones.

The MC has talent, passion, and is his own worst critic. His staff include multiple people who love him and know he's trying to achieve his dream. That's extremely rare motivation.
Toss in that they've been at this only a few weeks. The novelty hasn't worn off. Lots of people hit a new job with high energy.
Finally, remember all those broken glasses and dishes. Consider some of them a proxy for rejected orders.

But toss all that aside because this is a STORY. During the waitress training we DID see a jerk customer reject what they actually ordered. It doesn't advance the story to see that happen multiple times a night. I recall a few passing references to mistakes, and of course the girls get spanked periodically for others. This is not a crew achiving 100% perfection, though they're miles above your average cafe.
 

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This game is really growing on me, there's some charas im not so much into but its well supplanted by the overall quality of the game. The story unfolds pretty well there's enough girls to content whatever taste you may have, h-scenes are good to really good.
Bottom line for me a MUST play if you havent still got the chance.
 
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