AI_Game

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The way MC treated Rachel, although not hitting or causing physical harm to her, was a very insensitive and cruel way of speaking and behaving because it had a serious psychological impact on her, a small, different, lonely and lost girl! She was extremely lonely, without any friends! MC's words and behavior were extremely dangerous because it could make her think of suicide!EVEN If instead MC had chosen to rape her to go against her own rules, it would not have led to such serious consequences as what MC did !
MC is portrayed as a very knowledgeable and calm person, brave enough to stand up and protect the weak! But I don't understand how he can be so cruel to the character Rachel?
 
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LordDoh

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The way MC treated Rachel, although not hitting or causing physical harm to her, was a very insensitive and cruel way of speaking and behaving because it had a serious psychological impact on her, a small, different, lonely and lost girl! She was extremely lonely, without any friends! MC's words and behavior were extremely dangerous because it could make her think of suicide!EVEN If instead MC had chosen to rape her to go against her own rules, it would not have led to such serious consequences as what MC did !
MC is portrayed as a very knowledgeable and calm person, brave enough to stand up and protect the weak! But I don't understand how he can be so cruel to the character Rachel?
Dude. Are you trolling? Rachel has been trying to get him framed for random BS from the get-go. And beyond being just unpleasant she actually committed a crapload of crimes. Trespassing, theft, physical assault, criminal invasion of privacy.. is what I can just remember off the top of my head. And every time she was let off. Every time the MC tried talking to her to some degree.

She is a truly, truly shitty person right now and, realistically, sometimes what we need to hear to grow is unpleasant. The MC is not an anime protagonist who is mentally deficient enough to stand up for people while being victimized by them - especially when they're actively trying to destroy his life.

He's just a good guy - which can be shown by how he felt bad about what he said to Rachel. Because yeah, it was harsh. It just happens that said harshness was deserved and overdue.

Then again I'm 50% sure you're trolling. Take a "haha" either way.
 
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AI_Game

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Dude. Are you trolling? Rachel has been trying to get him framed for random BS from the get-go. And beyond being just unpleasant she actually committed a crapload of crimes. Trespassing, theft, physical assault, criminal invasion of privacy.. is what I can just remember off the top of my head. And every time she was let off. Every time the MC tried talking to her to some degree.

She is a truly, truly shitty person right now and, realistically, sometimes what we need to hear to grow is unpleasant. The MC is not an anime protagonist who is mentally deficient enough to stand up for people while being victimized by them - especially when they're actively trying to destroy his life.

He's just a good guy - which can be shown by how he felt bad about what he said to Rachel. Because yeah, it was harsh. It just happens that said harshness was deserved and overdue.

Then again I'm 50% sure you're trolling. Take a "haha" either way.
She may be stupid but she's just a school girl trying to find the truth, trying to prove what she thinks is right and not evil enough to die or even be imprisoned! Meanwhile the MC is like a middle aged guy pretending to be a school boy to hunt down young school girls but doesn't understand that and becomes hostile and confronts her from the start even though the things she says and the rules she sets out sound childish and funny! She's more like she's trying to get attention than she is capable of harming anyone.
It's a very absurd detail and completely contrary to the smart and tough man that MC can show with all the other scenes.
I feel like MC is extremely arrogant, he hated Rachel from the beginning just because she made the no rape rule which hurt his ego even more. ^^
 

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Now I'm 80% sure you're a troll.

She may be stupid but she's just a school girl trying to find the truth, trying to prove what she thinks is right and not evil enough to die or even be imprisoned!
Factually wrong. In trying to get her way, she broke the law to the point of likely being deserving of prison time. There is nothing positive about this and she's 18, not 12.
Meanwhile the MC is like a middle aged guy pretending to be a school boy to hunt down young school girls but doesn't understand that and becomes hostile and confronts her from the start even
Factually wrong. He wanted to avoid her and never deal with her even again. A healthy mindset - she just kept following him. And middle aged? Wut?
She's more like she's trying to get attention than she is capable of harming anyone.
Physical assault, invasion of privacy to obtain eplicit pictures, theft, breaking and entering..
It's a very absurd detail and completely contrary to the smart and tough man that MC can show with all the other scenes.
He doesn't have to fix random people - he doesn't have to deal with them at all. He has enough to do without indulging people who go out of their way to be assholes. Like, you know, making a living? Spend time with people he likes?
I feel like MC is extremely arrogant, he hated Rachel from the beginning just because she made the no rape rule which hurt his ego even more. ^^
No, he wanted nothing to do with her from the beginning. And that "rule" (aka the law lol) didn't hurt his ego. He might have gotten a headache from the stupidity, though.
things she says and the rules she sets out sound childish and funny!
If you think someone repeatedly accusing you of sexually harassing women in a public setting is funny you're genuinely crazy. Lives have been ruined for less.
 

pknight7

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This game is so good that the developer got so caught up in playing the whole game by themselves instead of letting us play... players can only spam left clicks to see where the story is going with no options to interact !

But its true there is one confusing detail.
The story of a talented guy but for some reason he gets angry easily and hates a small, weak, lonely girl instead of understanding her, or because that girl is not affected by his mysterious superpower which naturally makes girls flock to him like flies so he is bitter.
 
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AI_Game

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Now I'm 80% sure you're a troll.


Factually wrong. In trying to get her way, she broke the law to the point of likely being deserving of prison time. There is nothing positive about this and she's 18, not 12.

Factually wrong. He wanted to avoid her and never deal with her even again. A healthy mindset - she just kept following him. And middle aged? Wut?

Physical assault, invasion of privacy to obtain eplicit pictures, theft, breaking and entering..

He doesn't have to fix random people - he doesn't have to deal with them at all. He has enough to do without indulging people who go out of their way to be assholes. Like, you know, making a living? Spend time with people he likes?

No, he wanted nothing to do with her from the beginning. And that "rule" (aka the law lol) didn't hurt his ego. He might have gotten a headache from the stupidity, though.

If you think someone repeatedly accusing you of sexually harassing women in a public setting is funny you're genuinely crazy. Lives have been ruined for less.
18 or 38 or 83 we still can be stupid ! This MC is so mature that he doesn't even pay attention to studying, he also shows great understanding, sympathy, calmness to all the girls who kneel before him but is willing to seriously psychologically hurt a weak, lonely girl? It's absurd, there are many ways for him to at least try to conquer Rachel but clearly his ego and hatred for her is too big.
 
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This game is so good that the developer got so caught up in playing the whole game by themselves instead of letting us play... players can only spam left clicks to see where the story is going with no options to interact !

But its true there is one confusing detail.
The story of a talented guy but for some reason he gets angry easily and hates a small, weak, lonely girl instead of understanding her, or because that girl is not affected by his mysterious superpower which naturally makes girls flock to him like flies so he is bitter.
yes that is exacly what im trying to say !
 
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Rachel:
  • Repeatedly falsely accuses the MC of being a rapist and sexual abuser.
  • Repeatedly tries to get him in serious trouble with the school for minor infractions.
  • Physically attacks him (admittedly harmlessly) because she misinterpreted something he said in the most ridiculous way possible.
  • Spends his entire first month at school harassing him.
  • Takes that harassment almost to the level of being a stalker, when she:
  • Breaks into his office, eavesdrops on an intimate, private conversation between the MC and Hannah
  • Then takes a voyeuristic photograph of Hannah half naked, one that could be very personally damaging to her and the MC if it found its way to Brian and the Russells.
  • Admits clearly that she's doing all of this with the intention of getting him expelled.

MC:
  • Finally calls her out on the above behaviour after a month of letting it slide.
I don't normally try to impose my own interpretation of the story on people, because I think that everyone has the right to take it how they want. But how anyone can paint Rachel as the victim in this truly baffles me.
 

torpedogoat

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Rachel:
  • Repeatedly falsely accuses the MC of being a rapist and sexual abuser.
  • Repeatedly tries to get him in serious trouble with the school for minor infractions.
  • Physically attacks him (admittedly harmlessly) because she misinterpreted something he said in the most ridiculous way possible.
  • Spends his entire first month at school harassing him.
  • Takes that harassment almost to the level of being a stalker, when she:
  • Breaks into his office, eavesdrops on an intimate, private conversation between the MC and Hannah
  • Then takes a voyeuristic photograph of Hannah half naked, one that could be very personally damaging to her and the MC if it found its way to Brian and the Russells.
  • Admits clearly that she's doing all of this with the intention of getting him expelled.

MC:
  • Finally calls her out on the above behaviour after a month of letting it slide.
I don't normally try to impose my own interpretation of the story on people, because I think that everyone has the right to take it how they want. But how anyone can paint Rachel as the victim in this truly baffles me.
I am on your side, at the very least in the context of the story. It's 100% clear that Rachel is a minor antagonist with a chance for a redemption path.

But AI_Game does have a point. Rachel clearly thinks she is motivated by doing the right thing, regardless of what's really going on in her subconscious. She is not an evil character, just a super annoying, even toxic one. And I agree with AI_Game that in real life, being called out with this kind of shock therapy could lead such an unstable person to suicide.

That said, I don't necessarily agree that the MC should have considered that. It's school. Far worse things happen at school. Contrary to recent trends in some societies, it is not good to treat everyone as if they were super fragile. A Rachel with no known history of severe depression or other relevant psychiatric problems can and perhaps should be exposed to this kind of treatment, as it has a good chance to put her on a better path. That's not at all the same as doing it to someone who has been in trauma therapy for years and already tried to end their life several times.

Societies tend to oscillate between extremes. First all students get violent beatings for even slightly inconveniencing their teacher, or even without a reason, with no regard to psychological state or prehistory. A few decades later everyone is treated as if they had to be protected even from being contradicted when they are wrong. As that is also way too extreme (and inconsistent: some students get draconian punishments just for once using bad words against another, maybe even in justified verbal self-defense), the pendulum soon swings back and again swings way too far, bringing us back to where we started.

This story takes place in a society that is somewhere near the reasonable middle, and that's exactly as it should be. This treatment of Rachel is perhaps not the best idea, but it makes sense despite coming with some risk. Realistically speaking, the worst case outcome we need to reckon with in this case (design-basis event or maximum credible accident) is a suicide attempt with no serious lasting physical effects, not an accomplished suicide.
 
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AI_Game

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Rachel:
  • Repeatedly falsely accuses the MC of being a rapist and sexual abuser.
  • Repeatedly tries to get him in serious trouble with the school for minor infractions.
  • Physically attacks him (admittedly harmlessly) because she misinterpreted something he said in the most ridiculous way possible.
  • Spends his entire first month at school harassing him.
  • Takes that harassment almost to the level of being a stalker, when she:
  • Breaks into his office, eavesdrops on an intimate, private conversation between the MC and Hannah
  • Then takes a voyeuristic photograph of Hannah half naked, one that could be very personally damaging to her and the MC if it found its way to Brian and the Russells.
  • Admits clearly that she's doing all of this with the intention of getting him expelled.

MC:
  • Finally calls her out on the above behaviour after a month of letting it slide.
I don't normally try to impose my own interpretation of the story on people, because I think that everyone has the right to take it how they want. But how anyone can paint Rachel as the victim in this truly baffles me.
Oh it's great to see the dev of a game directly watching and participating in the commentary with the players! This means you are very dedicated and the game is still in good progress! First of all, I want to affirm that your game is great i just dont understand how MC can act like that ! What I'm talking about is not to justify that Rachel is the victim, but I'm talking about the MC's personality and how she handled it. Although Rachel was clearly wrong, what she did did not show that she was evil and cruel enough to be abandoned and destroyed like that. That is very serious and can make a person desperate and think of suicide! I think the MC should have been smarter and more compassionate instead of the way he treated her. I feel pity for Rachel's character more than hate for her!
 

pknight7

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Rachel:
  • Repeatedly falsely accuses the MC of being a rapist and sexual abuser.
  • Repeatedly tries to get him in serious trouble with the school for minor infractions.
  • Physically attacks him (admittedly harmlessly) because she misinterpreted something he said in the most ridiculous way possible.
  • Spends his entire first month at school harassing him.
  • Takes that harassment almost to the level of being a stalker, when she:
  • Breaks into his office, eavesdrops on an intimate, private conversation between the MC and Hannah
  • Then takes a voyeuristic photograph of Hannah half naked, one that could be very personally damaging to her and the MC if it found its way to Brian and the Russells.
  • Admits clearly that she's doing all of this with the intention of getting him expelled.

MC:
  • Finally calls her out on the above behaviour after a month of letting it slide.
I don't normally try to impose my own interpretation of the story on people, because I think that everyone has the right to take it how they want. But how anyone can paint Rachel as the victim in this truly baffles me.
I think you will be happy because the players are feeling and giving their real emotions and feelings for each character in your game, not only for the main characters but also for the characters who are considered as villains! That proves that you have successfully built the personality, created the soul for the characters, Right?
I am like AI_Game, I even feel pity and love Rachel more than other characters because she is not easily subdued and did not becomes lustful like other girls(not yet atleast xD) even though there are many other girls who are prettier than her !
 

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But AI_Game does have a point. Rachel clearly thinks she is motivated by doing the right thing, regardless of what's really going on in her subconscious. She is not an evil character, just a super annoying, even toxic one.
Every villain thinks they're doing the right thing and the good guy in their own mind. That doesn't make them correct, or any less of a villain. Trying to ruin someones life simply because she doesn't like him and is delusional enough to make assumptions about him without even knowing him makes her both kinda crazy and yes, evil. Especially when she commits numerous criminal acts in the process of trying to ruin the MC.

The fact that the girls around the MC could also be harmed by her actions, when she's purportedly doing it to protect women from him, makes her actions even worse. She's actively trying to hurt women she claims she wants to help because of her own delusions.
 
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torpedogoat

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Every villain thinks they're doing the right thing and the good guy in their own mind. That doesn't make them correct, or any less of a villain. Trying to ruin someones life simply because she doesn't like him and is delusional enough to make assumptions about him without even knowing him makes her both kinda crazy and yes, evil. Especially when she commits numerous criminal acts in the process of trying to ruin the MC.
It's a matter of perspective. If this was a boarding school novel, then one could give a character like Rachel enough power to make her a credible villain. For that she would also have to be taken seriously by the headmistress, and have at least some effect. But this is not a boarding school, the students are all adults, and most events take place outside school. And in fact, the way that her maneuvers turn into nothing each time she runs to the headmistress, she is clearly more of a comic relief character than a villain.
 
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