VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.13.1 EA] [Cosy Creator]

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

Just started this VN, does the dev know how to show emotions on the faces?

 

[HiHaHo]

funny how he posts that under a dev log with the following render:



lucy woke up early and is just smiling down at the MC laying there.....

 

[CyBeRd0g]

funny how he posts that under a dev log with the following render:

 

[shitass1001]

Just started this VN, does the dev know how to show emotions on the faces?

He does, but they are subtle, see this post for more details.
As far as I am aware facial expressions in HS 2 are as easy as clicking a button, so the expressions being more subtle, like they are in this VS, is probably a stylistic choice. Which I think is used to great effect.

To add to that post, often times when a character in Cosy Cafe has that "emotional" look in their eyes its because in some way or another their world view is being challenged, not every time of course, but its a substantial amount. When MC calls Sarah cute for instance, she thinks she is anything but attractive or cute, similar thing to every time the MC says he likes spending time with Lucy in the early sections, or some events with Victoria further down the line.

 

[CyBeRd0g]

I just looked through quite a few of the images yet again and they seem to show enough emotion to me. Maybe it's just a matter of paying attention? Like when you ignore everything written on the thread and just go with your sudden desire to show that dev how lame his work is?

 

[Cosy Creator]

He does, but they are subtle, see this post for more details.
As far as I am aware facial expressions in HS 2 are as easy as clicking a button, so the expressions being more subtle, like they are in this VS, is probably a stylistic choice. Which I think is used to great effect.

To add to that post, often times when a character in Cosy Cafe has that "emotional" look in their eyes its because in some way or another their world view is being challenged, not every time of course, but its a substantial amount. When MC calls Sarah cute for instance, she thinks she is anything but attractive or cute, similar thing to every time the MC says he likes spending time with Lucy in the early sections, or some events with Victoria further down the line.

Yep, this. The facial expressions were definitely more limited early on when I didn't know what I was doing, but the way they are now is by design, and it does take just as much time/effort this way.

 

[jvbatman]

Yep, this. The facial expressions were definitely more limited early on when I didn't know what I was doing, but the way they are now is by design, and it does take just as much time/effort this way.

I feel a big part of the charm of this game is the nuanced subtlety of expressions.

 

[jI11jaCksjAkk]

I feel a big part of the charm of this game is the nuanced subtlety of expressions.

Ding ding ding! ...But that's also the 'problem' that leads to a lot of posts that completely miss the forest for the trees, since nuance and sublety are foreign concepts to the mouth-breathing teenaged boys and trolls who make up a sizeable % of posters online.

 

[tastybubbletea06]

Okay, weird "question". I don't know if has been asked before. But. What are the names of the songs in the game? I know I heard one somewhere else, and I kinda want them on my playlist for relaxing.

 

[Sekiryuuten]

Okay, weird "question". I don't know if has been asked before. But. What are the names of the songs in the game? I know I heard one somewhere else, and I kinda want them on my playlist for relaxing.

Just go into your Cosy Cafe game folder, then navigate to the game folder, and finally into the audio folder. You'll find all the songs there, though they have generic names

 

[tastybubbletea06]

Just go into your Cosy Cafe game folder, then navigate to the game folder, and finally into the audio folder. You'll find all the songs there, though they have generic names

Thanks! Yeah, I never knew the songs are there as MP3 files. Perfect for what I needed. Thanks.

 

[DeadpoolandWolverine]

i hope were getting a new update soon this year be for march or in march ?

 

[HiHaHo]

i hope were getting a new update soon this year be for march or in march ?

hard to truly say,you can track progess via the Dev logs that are being posted the last one:

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Spoiler warning! - This dev log contains a follow up discussion to the spoiler content in the last one.

Hey guys, welcome the first of the short dev logs as I wade through the rendering for 0.12.

I've had another good burst of production over the last couple of weeks: The script is now complete, coming in at 31,000 words, which puts it just a little bit short of the record holding 0.10. The script has also finished going through the proofreading process, and I'm now getting stuck in to the renders, having completed the first hundred or so.

Next, I want to talk briefly again about the time skips that I mentioned in the last dev log. A lot of you left detailed feedback about the subject, and it was all very useful, though it did make me realise that I really should have put more details in the dev log!

The main issue I want to clear up, is that some people seemed to get the impression that the game is ending soon: It isn't! Or that when the time skips start, they will all be close together and rush the game right to the end: They won't!

The time skips will be used to connect together long chapters of detailed day-by-day story progression, just like the game has had so far. So, to give an example, the game is currently 26 days long (as of 0.11). If I were to do the first time skip right now, it would then go to Christmas (in game) and then you would read another block of 26 (for example) days, just like the first 26.

So, if anything, I worry that I'm being too ambitious with the scope of my plan - each skip is going to have a year or two dev time worth of content between them, essentially splitting the game into chapters. So think of it like we're currently in chapter 1, "The Beginning"

Then chapter 2 will be "Christmas at the cafe", which may well end up containing just as much content as chapter 1.

Then chapter 3 will be "graduation", which will probably be a little shorter, but still significant.

Then chapter 4 will be "Culinary school" which may well end up being the longest chapter that finally leads into the ending.

So rest assured - I am in no way trying to rush through Cosy Cafe. I'm in it until the story is done, and done properly!

And with that cleared up, that about does it for this one. If any of you have any further questions about the time skip thing, or anything else, please feel free to contact me here or on discord!

Until next time - thanks for your support!

- Cosy Creator

 

[DrSoong]

i hope were getting a new update soon this year be for march or in march ?

Last one took 3,5 months and has been there mid December. With Cosy having some rest after Christmas, quick guess would be end of March. His last DevLog said writing was finished and rendering started, so we just have to wait for the next DevLog (as every 2 weeks) for the next progress info.

 

[Nadekai]

People are arguing about the lack of emotions in character models?
Interesting... I've never even noticed the supposed lack until it was pointed out... and I still don't understand what's the problem...

 

[CyBeRd0g]

Rachel start being integrated as a LI

I dread that day...

Akira

That's probably Akari. And IMHO it's very unlikely MC wins the cooking match before making sufficient progress in his culinary education. Unless Sara makes some exceptionally tempting skimpy outfit for her to wear and Akari just forfeits the match

People are arguing about the lack of emotions in character models?

Different people have different expectations.
Perhaps some expect anime-level of expressivity. Something like this:

 

[HiHaHo]

I dread that day...

personally i'm not against Rachel coming in as long as she drops the attitude,but i understand people who'd still wouldn't want her even then,first impressions do matter.

and yes it should've been Akari and i don't think a raunchy outfit would be enough,her pride as a chef won't let her and this is something she actually already said.

 

[CyBeRd0g]

i don't think a raunchy outfit would be enough,her pride as a chef won't let her and this is something she actually already said

Yeah, I remember her saying that.

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That's why I phrased it as:

exceptionally tempting

In my mind that could be enough to have an unlikely chance to speed things up. But yeah, a speculation it is

 

[OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney]

Nice story, good amount of drama, stunning characters..... only the whole maledom and submission genre doesn't exactly tickle my fancy but oh well, it is what it is xD

I have a question though, will the MC quit being so stubborn regarding the Founding Families? I mean, instead of just refusing being part of them, why don't you start becoming a "master", and not just with the girls?

 

[mordred93]

as Cosy already stated the first ingame time skip is approaching.
i am curious about how the state off LI's will be at that point, will Rachel start being integrated as a LI? same with Elizabeth?!
also will we get the requested and acknowledged to come Annebelle content?

Akira whilst also being a Main LI i doubt we'll see a lot on that front until we've hit the 3rd time skip and enter chp.4 "culinary college" unless a Cooking match won by the MC dramaticly changes that.

Note: Only 1 spoiler, and it is indicated below (but stated here by the dev, so only a spoiler if you haven't seen that post). Everything else has been hinted to, or said outright in V11 of the game.

My bet? Wrapping things up before the first time skip will have the following:
* Rachel will get the open job at the cafe as a waitress. Either that, or something will happen so that she will start to hang around the group more. The time skip will maybe smoothe out some rough edges of her prickliness, or not. MC will punish her accordingly.
* We won't see Hannah, or Catherine made official girlfriends. There will be progress on their story by understanding more about them, and the time skip will allow them to become more friendly with the other girls and like being at the cafe. It doesn't make sense to rush them into the harem yet, unless there is a major revelation at the next FF meeting. However, both girls have their own issues to sort out, which preclude them from being in the harem yet (Catherine's reluctance, Hannah's betrothal to Brian). It's going to just happen as time happens.
* Sarah will be made a girl friend. I doubt she will have sex with the MC. She is too shy, and MC wont rush her. So she might give the MC head, or something like that. She is also FF, so purity and marriage are also things to think about in her story.
* Akatsuki, Lucy, and Vicky will fall into their patterns, and we may learn more about their backgrounds, etc. Outside of that, really not much as they are part of the Harem already.
* Akari (I assume you meant that when you said Akira) - I bet something will happen. She is a tease, so I bet she would show up at the cafe or something and tease the MC. I doubt a cookoff will happen, and I doubt anything major will happen. Like you said, more for later acts.
* Elizabeth - She might have some plan, or something to deal with the FF, but I doubt she will come up with anything, or have much content, outside of maybe the next FF meeting.
* Alison - She will advise the MC, and they might have a date or something (like they did the previous Sunday). Doubt much progresses with her, outside of strategy and maybe learning more about her. She is a slow and steady kind of gal, and I bet it will be a time before she jeopardizes her headmistress job, for the MC. She will probably be more of a Act II or Act III character
* Misaki - She knows who the MC is, and MC pushes her gently, and she gets more confident. Doubtful anything major happens before the skip. I mean she has to think about her career. She is probably more of a Act 2 or 3 character.
* Annabelle - we may see her again, but doubt anything major happens unless it is at a FF event.
* #13 LI (Charlotte) - (we haven't met, and doubt we will met her before the skip).

That covers the 13 main LI. Outside of that, we have a FF meeting, so there will be some Russell plot to change/sabotage things. I bet Jack calls Harriet (he asked for her number from Hannah), and start to try to fix things between Gilbert and Alison. There is the Goth event in the cafe the next weekend so I am sure there is another flyers escapade. There will be another school project meeting.

I doubt there will be a major cliffhanger at the time skip. This is a "Cosy" story after all, and most things will either be put on hold, gently marinate, or be wrapped up during the 2 month time skip. Based on what Cosy has said, there will be a detailed "this is what happened during the time skip" sort of montage. It is 2 months. Doubt any major milestones will be hit during that timeframe. There are logical breaks in the story, so that seems to be where things will be "put on hold". V12 covers Thursday and Friday. V13 will cover Saturday and Sunday, V14 will cover Monday and Tuesday (FF day). V15/16 will probably cover everything to get us to wrap everything up for the time skip.