VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.13 EA] [Cosy Creator]

[PaxHadrian17]

I would love to see Alison do something like that, not just for Elizabeth, but maybe also for Hannah, enabling her trust him more. It would work for Elizabeth, but might do wonders for Hannah as well

Alison, the Headmistress and Secretary, already plays a critical role in the MC's larger 'family.'

Alison, the woman, needs to show her commitment to the MC in front of his girlfriends and set an example for the other founding family daughters (this will benefit Hannah, Catherine and Elizabeth Russell, since Sarah is clearly Team Fletcher now).

Her submission in front of the group (in the privacy of the cafe, for example) would be an important way for her to Show both submission and commitment.

Alison is a smart, driven woman so I see her viewing spankings, both over the panties and bare bottom, as far less punishment/humiliation and far more a small price to pay to demonstrate that she is every bit as committed to becoming one of the MC's women as any of the girlfriends are.

I could even see Alison coordinating with the MC ahead of time so that he could punish her in front of the other women (I automatically include Hannah here since she is part of the cafe staff now) when Elizabeth Russell is present.

I believe that Elizabeth, at age 20, and with her view of the MC and his inner circle of women, needs some shock therapy to adjust her perception.

Spoiler: Elizabeth's current view of the MC and most of his women

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Alison is the only person familiar enough with Elizabeth to call her Ellie.

They have a pre-existing relationship, and this will, IMO, make Alison's submission to the MC in front of the other women (and especially Elizabeth) more impactful.

This is our first meaningful time spent with Elizabeth and I like her character.

Elizabeth currently falls into the category of: 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend.'

I'm looking forward to seeing how Cosy brings Elizabeth into the MC's orbit, a valued and loyal part of the Fletcher clan, who finds the home she had been missing for some time.

Cheers!!

 

[Skep-tiker]

Alison, the Headmistress and Secretary, already plays a critical role in the MC's larger 'family.'

Alison, the woman, needs to show her commitment to the MC in front of his girlfriends and set an example for the other founding family daughters (this will benefit Hannah, Catherine and Elizabeth Russell, since Sarah is clearly Team Fletcher now).

Her submission in front of the group (in the privacy of the cafe, for example) would be an important way for her to Show both submission and commitment.

Alison is a smart, driven woman so I see Alice viewing spankings, both over the panties and bare bottom, as far less punishment/humiliation and far more a small price to pay to demonstrate that she is every bit as committed to becoming one of the MC's women as any of the girlfriends are.

I could even see Alison coordinating with the MC ahead of time so that he could punish her in front of the other women (I automatically include Hannah here since she is part of the cafe staff now) when Elizabeth Russell is present.

I believe that Elizabeth, at age 20, and with her view of the MC and his inner circle of women, needs some shock therapy to adjust her perception.

Spoiler: Elizabeth's current view of the MC and most of his women

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Alison is the only person familiar enough with Elizabeth to call her Ellie.

They have a pre-existing relationship, and this will, IMO, make Alison's submission to the MC in front of the other women (and especially Elizabeth) more impactful.

This is our first meaningful time spent with Elizabeth and I like her character.

Elizabeth currently falls into the category of: 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend.'

I'm looking forward to seeing how Cosy brings Elizabeth into the MC's orbit, a valued and loyal part of the Fletcher clan, who finds the home she had been missing for some time.

Cheers!!

Poor Brian, enduring sister and fiance netori...

 

[bASKOU]

Poor Brian, enduring sister and fiance netori...

Serves him right!

 

[nhel]

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[shitass1001]

So looking at the changelogs list, this dev does not do a pleb version?

I dont know what a pleb version is, I assume its like a free release, in which case yes they do a free release, its a month after the patreon release. it usually has fixes to typos in it and stuff.

 

[Rex G]

any info about next update

 

[S1nsational]

any info about next update

The current release literally just got made public this week, and even then I think it was an early leak, I wouldn't expect any news for a couple of months

 

[Deleted member 7758600]

any info about next update

I'm assuming December, but since it's only going to be a single day update, probably sooner, but at least another 6-8 weeks I think

 

[Havik79]

I dont know what a pleb version is, I assume its like a free release, in which case yes they do a free release, its a month after the patreon release. it usually has fixes to typos in it and stuff.

Going from the changelogs listed in the OP it doesn't seem to get released here though does it.

 

[Cosy Creator]

Going from the changelogs listed in the OP it doesn't seem to get released here though does it.

If I make changes to the free release beyond simple typo fixes, I give it a 0.x.1 version number, that's what those are.

 

[Rex G]

The current release literally just got made public this week, and even then I think it was an early leak, I wouldn't expect any news for a couple of months

okay i just found this game

 

[HiP1]

I said this very early on in development, so most people won't have seen it, but: There won't be any murder plots at any point in the story.

As for the MC's grandfather, he remained the head of the Fletcher family until he died. Being in exile didn't change that, so any other Fletchers of his generation couldn't just pick up the mantle. Regarding his divorced wives, this hasn't been stated in game yet, but I have explained it on discord before: marrying into a Founding Family comes with a few extra strings attached, one of which is that divorce essentially makes her children illegitimate, relinquishing all claim on the title that they may have had. You can see why they would have that rule, otherwise they could just have their daughters marry, pop out a son, then divorce and run off with the heir back to their own family.

thanks! we really needed those clarifications

what if the divorced wife leaves but gives up on their kids and let them live with their dad's family ? would they still be considered illegitimate ?

That's interesting. So he does have cousins around somewhere. Maybe that's what Annabelle's deal is.

oh, interesting development that could explain why she didn't make it into the harem

Alison, the Headmistress and Secretary, already plays a critical role in the MC's larger 'family.'

Alison, the woman, needs to show her commitment to the MC in front of his girlfriends and set an example for the other founding family daughters (this will benefit Hannah, Catherine and Elizabeth Russell, since Sarah is clearly Team Fletcher now).

Her submission in front of the group (in the privacy of the cafe, for example) would be an important way for her to Show both submission and commitment.

Alison is a smart, driven woman so I see Alice viewing spankings, both over the panties and bare bottom, as far less punishment/humiliation and far more a small price to pay to demonstrate that she is every bit as committed to becoming one of the MC's women as any of the girlfriends are.

I could even see Alison coordinating with the MC ahead of time so that he could punish her in front of the other women (I automatically include Hannah here since she is part of the cafe staff now) when Elizabeth Russell is present.

I believe that Elizabeth, at age 20, and with her view of the MC and his inner circle of women, needs some shock therapy to adjust her perception.

Spoiler: Elizabeth's current view of the MC and most of his women

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Alison is the only person familiar enough with Elizabeth to call her Ellie.

They have a pre-existing relationship, and this will, IMO, make Alison's submission to the MC in front of the other women (and especially Elizabeth) more impactful.

This is our first meaningful time spent with Elizabeth and I like her character.

Elizabeth currently falls into the category of: 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend.'

I'm looking forward to seeing how Cosy brings Elizabeth into the MC's orbit, a valued and loyal part of the Fletcher clan, who finds the home she had been missing for some time.

Cheers!!

I always forget that Elizabeth is 20. In my head she is closer to Alison's age

I don't think Elizabeth needs to see Alison submission.
I'd rather she find her own reason to submit and fall for MC instead. she seems like a woman with strong character, so she should be her own person and make her own decisions. bing influenced by witnessing Alison's submission would weaken the depth of the character.
Seeing Alison and MC mutual trust and loyalty should already be enough to kickstart the path. first, she learnt that MC was the fletcher head and her mother tried to get rid of him, so she automatically was on his side with the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" just to mess with her mom, she wanted to trade information about MC's grandad so MC rejected Gloria's offer. then she saw Alison, a rebel like herself and her friend, behind friendly and trusted allies with MC, that cemented the idea to partner with MC to undermine and get rid of her mother with his help.
so it's be better for her story that she respects and falls for MC through what they do and the time they share, together, rather than through Alison making a show.

 

[Havik79]

If I make changes to the free release beyond simple typo fixes, I give it a 0.x.1 version number, that's what those are.

So will this version get a pleb version or not.

 

[mordred93]

I'm assuming December, but since it's only going to be a single day update, probably sooner, but at least another 6-8 weeks I think

Technically the Dev does the updates about every 2 months, depending on content. So technically around the first week of November would be the next release, assuming there are no technical difficulties.

 

[mordred93]

MC's mother is alive and in jail, and it's his father that was a member of the Fletchers and died early in MC's life...

but yeah, Gloria is not the type to kill people. just ruin them into oblivion is more her style.

Yep, got it backwards. Brain Fart.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

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I don't think Elizabeth needs to see Alison submission.
I'd rather she find her own reason to submit and fall for MC instead. she seems like a woman with strong character, so she should be her own person and make her own decisions. bing influenced by witnessing Alison's submission would weaken the depth of the character.
Seeing Alison and MC mutual trust and loyalty should already be enough to kickstart the path. first, she learnt that MC was the fletcher head and her mother tried to get rid of him, so she automatically was on his side with the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" just to mess with her mom, she wanted to trade information about MC's grandad so MC rejected Gloria's offer. then she saw Alison, a rebel like herself and her friend, behind friendly and trusted allies with MC, that cemented the idea to partner with MC to undermine and get rid of her mother with his help.
so it's be better for her story that she respects and falls for MC through what they do and the time they share, together, rather than through Alison making a show.

Elizabeth's comment that the fifth founding family is being run by school kids is telling, IMO.

She also declares with no hesitation that she is Not Team Fletcher.

She needs the MC's help to destroy her mother, Gloria.

What is she willing to do to prove that she is the real deal and not a double agent and part of Gloria's back up plan to end the Fletcher Family?

She is going to need to grow closer to the MC and prove herself.

Spoiler: Alison's Advice on Choosing Wives

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Will she submit to discipline from the MC when she makes a mistake?

Elizabeth has to genuinely win over the MC and some form of submission has been part of the path for all of the women, including Alison who totally submitted to the MC's mercy in order to get him to help Hannah.

Part of one path:

I see Alison's choice to be punished in front of the women as a declaration of her full support of the MC (he believes that she is already on board) for the benefit of at least some the women (Hannah, Catherine + Elizabeth perhaps).

I don't think Alison's submission in front of the other women diminishes Elizabeth's journey, so we disagree on this.

I don't know if this is the path Cosy will choose, only that it is part of A path.

I also see the MC's girlfriends testing Ellizabeth the same way they are now testing Alison:

Spoiler: Alison Test

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Elizabeth is going to have to grow into someone the MC will want to have as a girlfriend and a potential wife.

She will also have to find a way to blend into the MC's growing harem, and accept that Victoria and other women will insert themselves into situations letting Elizabeth know that she is being evaluated and has to earn acceptance from them just as she has to prove herself to the MC.

Perhaps she has a skill or a favored hobby that will add to the group and give her a way to contribute and build relationships.

I'm looking forward to seeing how she does this.

Cheers!!

 

[Deleted member 7758600]

Elizabeth's comment that the fifth founding family is being run by school kids is telling, IMO.

She also declares with no hesitation that she is Not Team Fletcher.

She needs the MC's help to destroy her mother, Gloria.

What is she willing to do to prove that she is the real deal and not a double agent and part of Gloria's back up plan to end the Fletcher Family?

She is going to need to grow closer to the MC and prove herself.

Spoiler: Alison's Advice on Choosing Wives

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Will she submit to discipline from the MC when she makes a mistake?

Elizabeth has to genuinely win over the MC and some form of submission has been part of the path for all of the women, including Alison who totally submitted to the MC's mercy in order to get him to help Hannah.

Part of one path:

I see Alison's choice to be punished in front of the women as a declaration of her full support of the MC (he believes that she is already on board) for the benefit of at least some the women (Hannah, Catherine + Elizabeth perhaps).

I don't think Alison's submission in front of the other women diminishes Elizabeth's journey, so we disagree on this.

I don't know if this is the path Cosy will choose, only that it is part of A path.

I also see the MC's girlfriends testing Ellizabeth the same way they are now testing Alison:

Spoiler: Alison Test

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Elizabeth is going to have to grow into someone the MC will want to have as a girlfriend and a potential wife.

She will also have to find a way to blend into the MC's growing harem, and accept that Victoria and other women will insert themselves into situations letting Elizabeth know that she is being evaluated and has to earn acceptance from them just as she has to prove herself to the MC.

Perhaps she has a skill or a favored hobby that will add to the group and give her a way to contribute and build relationships.

I'm looking forward to seeing how she does this.

Cheers!!

Alright, I'm not going to go through the entire post, but replying on my own bullet points.

To me, there's not much different between being 18 and being 20, when it comes to actual age. Yeah they're in high school, but they are adults, just not in college. MC runs his own business, like he said, and even though she said it's being run by kids, technically, the MC is the one running it with Alison's guidance. Sarah's just helping out. So, MC has a right to be snippy to her about it.

Elizabeth doesn't seem the type at all to submit. She's certainly not like the Princess, and she gives off a biker chick vibe to me, and I've met a few of them in the past when I lived in Vegas, and if they do submit, it takes the right kind of guy to make them do that. Yeah the MC has a bit of a temper and a little bit of a mean streak, but It's going to take a lot, like, A LOT, for her to change her tune towards him. Whether Alison is part of that or not, don't know. I don't think she'll like at all Vicky and the other girls analyzing her every move with him.

I'm glad they're doing it with Alison, but Elizabeth is a whole 'nother animal in my opinion.

Let's say Alison makes a mistake at the after-party the MC didn't go to, and she comes in the cafe the next day, and let's say she does fuck up and hone up to it after the shift is over and everyone is around, including Elizabeth.

Does she willingly bend herself over a bed or a desk and take it or does the MC put her into position? Her willingly taking it creates more of an impact, with the other girls, especially Hannah and possibly Elizabeth.

I don't know if I'm talking out of my ass because I haven't slept much and have been studying too much chess or what, but Alison admitting she flubbed up at the after party could mean some interesting scenes and impact afterwards. I don't know. Studying chess is easier some times than theorizing about this.

 

[shitass1001]

So will this version get a pleb version or not.

The "pleb version" comes out a month after the patreon release(which would be October 1st), so if there are any typos or things that get fixed then that update will get released and put here, otherwise we will just keep the update that's here. There really isn't any reason to put the free release here if there aren't any changes to it.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Alright, I'm not going to go through the entire post, but replying on my own bullet points.

To me, there's not much different between being 18 and being 20, when it comes to actual age. Yeah they're in high school, but they are adults, just not in college. MC runs his own business, like he said, and even though she said it's being run by kids, technically, the MC is the one running it with Alison's guidance. Sarah's just helping out. So, MC has a right to be snippy to her about it.

Elizabeth doesn't seem the type at all to submit. She's certainly not like the Princess, and she gives off a biker chick vibe to me, and I've met a few of them in the past when I lived in Vegas, and if they do submit, it takes the right kind of guy to make them do that. Yeah the MC has a bit of a temper and a little bit of a mean streak, but It's going to take a lot, like, A LOT, for her to change her tune towards him. Whether Alison is part of that or not, don't know. I don't think she'll like at all Vicky and the other girls analyzing her every move with him.

I'm glad they're doing it with Alison, but Elizabeth is a whole 'nother animal in my opinion.

Let's say Alison makes a mistake at the after-party the MC didn't go to, and she comes in the cafe the next day, and let's say she does fuck up and hone up to it after the shift is over and everyone is around, including Elizabeth.

Does she willingly bend herself over a bed or a desk and take it or does the MC put her into position? Her willingly taking it creates more of an impact, with the other girls, especially Hannah and possibly Elizabeth.

I don't know if I'm talking out of my ass because I haven't slept much and have been studying too much chess or what, but Alison admitting she flubbed up at the after party could mean some interesting scenes and impact afterwards. I don't know. Studying chess is easier some times than theorizing about this.

I think there is back story for Elizabeth that is part of the solution to getting her to Want to become part of Team Fletcher and eventually to become one of the MC's women.

The MC pays attention and approaches each of the women in his 'family' differently, based on what he understands about them.

His approach to Sara versus Victoria, for example, is very different. He respects Sara's body issues and her shyness and gently works with her to overcome them, building trust and showing care for her.

Sleeping with a topless Sara and then waking up with her, where she finally showed her chest to him was a major breakthrough.

Part of Catherine's submission is to hold the MC's hand in public, even though she cringed at his touch less than a week ago.

We have some breadcrumbs about Elizabeth's backstory and at least one of her issues/pressure points (something personal she is currently unwilling to discuss):

Spoiler: Elizabeth and Family Relations

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Elizabeth hates her mother enough to want to destroy her, but why?

Are there cousins or 'innocents' in the family that she will want to protect from any fallout from her mother's downfall?

The MC will need more of this backstory to better understand how to beat Gloria and how to show Elizabeth that he cares and will do his best to try to respect her wishes if there are some who she wants to avoid hurting during the battles to come.

As a side note - I also like that the MC listened to Alison and immediately apologized if he overstepped in his question about Elizabeth's other family members.

I think Elizabeth understands that his apology was genuine, not a political calculation about what to say, and that - small as the gesture was - it was appreciated.

Spoiler: Looking forward to seeing this grow

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Cheers!!

 

[HiP1]

Elizabeth's comment that the fifth founding family is being run by school kids is telling, IMO.

She also declares with no hesitation that she is Not Team Fletcher.

She needs the MC's help to destroy her mother, Gloria.

What is she willing to do to prove that she is the real deal and not a double agent and part of Gloria's back up plan to end the Fletcher Family?

She is going to need to grow closer to the MC and prove herself.

Spoiler: Alison's Advice on Choosing Wives

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Will she submit to discipline from the MC when she makes a mistake?

Elizabeth has to genuinely win over the MC and some form of submission has been part of the path for all of the women, including Alison who totally submitted to the MC's mercy in order to get him to help Hannah.

Part of one path:

I see Alison's choice to be punished in front of the women as a declaration of her full support of the MC (he believes that she is already on board) for the benefit of at least some the women (Hannah, Catherine + Elizabeth perhaps).

I don't think Alison's submission in front of the other women diminishes Elizabeth's journey, so we disagree on this.

I don't know if this is the path Cosy will choose, only that it is part of A path.

I also see the MC's girlfriends testing Ellizabeth the same way they are now testing Alison:

Spoiler: Alison Test

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Elizabeth is going to have to grow into someone the MC will want to have as a girlfriend and a potential wife.

She will also have to find a way to blend into the MC's growing harem, and accept that Victoria and other women will insert themselves into situations letting Elizabeth know that she is being evaluated and has to earn acceptance from them just as she has to prove herself to the MC.

Perhaps she has a skill or a favored hobby that will add to the group and give her a way to contribute and build relationships.

I'm looking forward to seeing how she does this.

Cheers!!

when she says the family is run by kids, it's both a jab to test MC's reaction, and a declaration that she doesn't respect or trust MC yet.
MC has to prove himself to her first.

Alison submitting will only mostly affect Hannah. Elizabeth could be amused by it, even be surprised, but I don't think it would earn that much respect to make her begin to submit too. It has to come from what the MC actually says and does.

and of course, she will also have to prove herself to MC and get much closer to him. he is already happy with his current girlfriends, and doesn't really need more. so if more want to join, they have to be accepted by all the girlfriends and MC. MC doesn't need her as a girlfriend to work with her against Gloria.

And Victoria testing Alison, I saw that as a defiance, both to counter Alison testing MC before, and because Alison holds authority over MC and the girls as the headmistress of their school, so they need to be on equal terms with her at least and get some control back.
but they didn't test everyone in the same way, only Alison. so Elizabeth doesn't have to go through the same kind of test, as she didn't try to test MC first. She might get a different obstacle though, as she disrespected MC and his harem.

When Elizabeth says she is not part of team fletcher, she just states the honest truth. there was no calculated move or grand declaration of independence. she just met MC, they barely talked twice. she has no feelings for him yet, no respect for him, nor does she trust that he can handle himself. there is no reason for her to be loyal to him, just as there is no reason for him to accept her as a legitimate member of his team. the only thing was that Alison vouched for her trustworthiness, but MC wants to be the one to evaluate her.

what's funny is that she doubted MC's maturity, while she is the one that showed immaturity by not being able to handle being asked about her family. and he even displayed more maturity by dropping it and apologizing.

MC doesn't need her, in the current situation, he doesn't need to do anything. but she needs him. though she acts like she has one over him and he has to do what she wants.
because she is an LI in the main tab, you are biased. but from MC's POV, there is no need to get closer to her, to have her as a girlfriend or help her. for now, it's just trouble and hassle for him, with zero benefits. He is mildly curious when facts come up, but he doesn't really care about her and her backstory for now. He already has his hands full too. the players want to know more, and are eager to learn about her story, but MC is like "Meh"
She actually is the one that has to prove herself to MC. coming up with an actual plan that could work, getting his attention, and stirring up his feelings. He is not chasing her at all. She is chasing him. I think that's what you are missing from my opinions of all this