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Rogue Reaper

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Of course she won't look in to it.
1. She doesn't know the MC. No reason to trust him - considering how sheltered and asocial Sarah is, there is a 50/50 chance her judgement of him is clouded.
2. She has been playing the Founding Family game for at least 18 years (btw, that means she had Sarah while 17). For all she knows - whatever she finds might be something deliberately planted by the MC.
3. She might actually have something to do with it - I mentioned a few pages back, that Hamilton's goals aren't bad, it's his methodology that's shit. Considering it's very doubtful Lily married for love... her view of the whole thing might be different. a few days of distress for a life-time of security and prosperity? Ain't that bad of a deal. Probably a lot better one then what she got as the third wife of Hamilton.
4. She might just not know how to find out about the picture. She might be good at social quips, looking good and being charming, but she might be dumb as a rock underneath it all.


And even if she wants to, could do it and finds out... so what? Anyone who imagines her ripping Hamilton a new asshole has watched way too many soap operas. Her entire life is dependent on the fact she is married to the guy since she was at least 16. Her daughter's well-being is dependent on it. What could she possibly do? Risk it all on a mad throw of the dice, hoping the MC is gonna become a major player? That's the field of the desperate and those who have nothing to lose. She is neither.

Like, I don't like her much, I think she is a pos. From what she has presented it seems she was just a gold-digging bimbo, that is batting to gain a higher position in the pecking order inside her husbands harem. But that doesn't mean I'm right.
MC is a major player then he asks her to look into the photo, but sure.. She has no reason to.. Other than wanting the alliance between the two families to work, the well-being of her daughter that she wants to marry off to the MC and because a Family Head, even if another family, asked her too.... Anyway, we'll see.
 

RadicalGuy

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MC is a major player then he asks her to look into the photo, but sure.. She has no reason to.. Other than wanting the alliance between the two families to work, the well-being of her daughter that she wants to marry off to the MC and because a Family Head, even if another family, asked her too.... Anyway, we'll see.
Just because MC is Founding Family head, doesn't mean that he is honest or has good intentions. I would say, this fact works against him in this case. I mean, look at other heads - Russell destroys her brother to take over family and later targets MC's grandfather, Hamilton orchestrates whole stalker business and baits Regi into taking financial hit, Gilber "trades" daughter to keep fragile balance in the council. Note that those are only things we (as MC) learn in two weeks (?), gods know what FF members hide in their closets. It also doesn't help that Lily barerly interacted with MC.

Out of all the things she may want only Sarah's well-being seems true at this moment or at least gives that impression. We don't know how much she herself wants alliance and marriage between MC and Sarah, and how much it's Hamilton's influnce.

As of version 0.12, Lily has no idea about stalker and she only saw the results - photo of MC and Sarah.

I actually wonder, if anything would change if either Sarah or MC told Lily about stalker. At first we couldn't say anything, as Hamilton could've stop Sarah's cosplay stuff, but now? Allison said it won't be useful to MC, so why not tell the truth or drop more hints?
I have to say this though - out of all parents in this game, Lily and Mr Gilbermay be the only redeemable ones.
 

Daermon420

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I have to say this though - out of all parents in this game, Lily and Mr Gilbermay be the only redeemable ones.
And I'd say even they are iffy. Mr. Gilbert seems like a decent guy and possibly open to making peace with Alison. Alison on the other hand shows no signs of being willing to forgive her father. I think there's more that happened there than just the arranged marriage.

And Lily was told she may have to choose between her husband and her daughter, to look into that photo if she wants to make an informed decision. But she's straight up refusing to do even that. Could be she's pulling an ostrich, sticking her head in the sand hoping the bad things will just go away and that choice will never have to occur. But as we all know, that doesn't actually work and eventually she'll have to choose. Hell, it's even possible she already knows everything about the stalker and picture setup and is playing dumb. We know the founding families, especially the heads and their wives, are cunning, ruthless and conniving.
 

Daermon420

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You all are forgetting one thing, our very own human lie detector Lucy doesn't believe Lily had anything to do with it. I don't know about you guys, but that's good enough for me :)
Yeah I think it's unlikely that Lily knows the entire situation, just saying it is possible she does. I think it's far more likely she doesn't know all the details and is actively afraid to find out because she doesn't want to have to choose a side.
 

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Yeah I think it's unlikely that Lily knows the entire situation, just saying it is possible she does. I think it's far more likely she doesn't know all the details and is actively afraid to find out because she doesn't want to have to choose a side.
Ah, yes, the old "If you were unknowingly dying from a disease, would you actually want to know about it?" shpiel. An age-old literary device! Personally, I have always been in favour of knowing; if you do know about it in advance, you can enjoy your time all the more and not hesitate about doing things you may otherwise be too scared or reluctant to try.

...But getting back to Lily's wilful ignorance: I honestly don't know what kind of redemption arc we could even hope to see for her, because to be perfectly frank, I have a bit of a strong dislike for people blithely ignoring the evidence of a problematic situation when confronted with such. Wilful ignorance is just... Plain wrong, as I see it. :cautious:

-Mal
 

Rogue Reaper

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Honestly with Lily's refusal to look into the photo.. I guess want to give a good spanking..

Since cheating isn't really theme in this game, sex with Lily will probably not be a thing.. But she needs some discipline.
 
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Hfap5

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I've finished playing this game. I could write a long text about what I liked and what was positive about the game, but no one's going to read that.

I've been playing it for months, very late because it's one of the few games where I actually read the dialogue. It's a very pretty vainilla game, the girls are very nice. When I played N-TR, the next day I played Cosy Cafe to purify my soul.

I like all the girls equally but especially Lucy, she into waifu category.

It will be sad when the story ends, I give it a 10/10, especially I love the beginning of the game when you start living with Lucy. I don't think I'll play it again until the game is finished.
 

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Maybe not many will agree with this opinion, but regarding Rachel, I think a romantic path would be better since she is an extremist feminist, it would be good to show her that men are not as bad as she believes, and the path of punishment and violence to make her submit would only prove her theory right.
I hope that Rachel's character is explored in more depth and that she doesn't simply become a fetish element where she only serves the purpose of being punished and "revenge."
But according to what you see in the character bios, Rachel is in the "main" section. I imagine that she will be part of the harem.
 

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Maybe not many will agree with this opinion, but regarding Rachel, I think a romantic path would be better since she is an extremist feminist, it would be good to show her that men are not as bad as she believes, and the path of punishment and violence to make her submit would only prove her theory right.
I hope that Rachel's character is explored in more depth and that she doesn't simply become a fetish element where she only serves the purpose of being punished and "revenge."
But according to what you see in the character bios, Rachel is in the "main" section. I imagine that she will be part of the harem.
So hoe does MC explain being szddebly all lovey dovy with Rachel to the other girls? And why should this suddenly happen?
 

Hfap5

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And I'd say even they are iffy. Mr. Gilbert seems like a decent guy and possibly open to making peace with Alison. Alison on the other hand shows no signs of being willing to forgive her father. I think there's more that happened there than just the arranged marriage.

And Lily was told she may have to choose between her husband and her daughter, to look into that photo if she wants to make an informed decision. But she's straight up refusing to do even that. Could be she's pulling an ostrich, sticking her head in the sand hoping the bad things will just go away and that choice will never have to occur. But as we all know, that doesn't actually work and eventually she'll have to choose. Hell, it's even possible she already knows everything about the stalker and picture setup and is playing dumb. We know the founding families, especially the heads and their wives, are cunning, ruthless and conniving.
The stalker thing is a bit of an exaggeration. It only happened once, and it wasn't serious. Hating his mother for that is silly. Could that still be called stalking? Legally, I don't think so.
 

Hfap5

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So hoe does MC explain being szddebly all lovey dovy with Rachel to the other girls? And why should this suddenly happen?
Why did the MC suddenly start loving two of Lucy's stalkers and a girl who despised him? Four girls in that harem were "bad" at first, but the romance developed as the story progressed and everyone knew each other, and their backstory became known. It's probably the same with Rachel.
 
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