Ren'Py Abandoned Covenant of Morn [v0.5.1] [395games]

[Helion666]

Keep on the great work 395games_Rathieu

 

[Aerrae]

You learned a lesson that some adults never learn, and those adults are adults in name only.

Learning and growing only stops when you think you're done, but someone who's truly matured knows you only stop when you're dead.

 

[KillerBee487]

Man, I didn't know the reviews were being so destructive.
I understand people: Mist was a great game, but it still wasn't built in just one day.
I think Morn's characters still have a lot to offer (even if they are blue), but I think they are well designed and there are a lot of mysteries to solve.
The detective and dating gameplay is much more polished than the simple battle mode in MIST. The store sales before the last update was frustrating, but it has improved a lot since the last one. Fishing has also been a great addition, and is definitely the way forward.
I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but I think Morn is a great game and will end up being one of the biggest games on F95.
Happy New Year to all!

 

[395games]

The thing is, most of them weren't actually destructive, but as I wrote, I wasn't able to see it. I had backed myself into a corner, the majority of feedback was constructive. The more negative feedback too, was mostly constructive. I just couldn't see it because of the few that weren't. And now I feel like I can see that more clearly. It doesn't bother me as much anymore and I'm looking forward to building this game up on all the great constructive criticism.

 

[slothen29]

For what its worth I know of a TON of people that enjoyed MIST and still haven't tried Children of Morn yet (myself included). Not because of any negative feedback they see here, but simply because we're holding off for development to progress a little further. I haven't looked deeply at the negative feedback you've received but from the messages here I'll just encourage you to ignore the people crying about femdom (or putting the MC on screen). If people are going to lose their shit over the premise of your game then there's not going to be any pleasing them. Based on the quality of MIST, the compelling characters and tone, and the artwork you've posted for Morn, there's a lot of people still excited for this game.

 

[beh123234]

For what its worth I know of a TON of people that enjoyed MIST and still haven't tried Children of Morn yet (myself included). Not because of any negative feedback they see here, but simply because we're holding off for development to progress a little further. I haven't looked deeply at the negative feedback you've received but from the messages here I'll just encourage you to ignore the people crying about femdom (or putting the MC on screen). If people are going to lose their shit over the premise of your game then there's not going to be any pleasing them. Based on the quality of MIST, the compelling characters and tone, and the artwork you've posted for Morn, there's a lot of people still excited for this game.

Can confirm, I only just recently got around to playing the current release of Children of Morn and have been distancing myself from any and all discussions about it, and I thoroughly enjoyed what we have now, and I'm very excited to see what comes next in this story in the same way I was totally engrossed in the mystery of MIST. Imagine my shock when I decide to stop by here to find so much apathy to this incredible start to this story alongside actual disdain for it. The whole point of creating a brand new game is to create a brand new game. MIST ended unambiguously; there is no room for a MIST 2. If they want another MIST, they'll just have to settle for replaying it as the rest of us move on to uncharted waters and enjoy the journey.

 

[Potichard]

Name of this game is pretty unfortunate tbh. I tried searching 'Children of Morn' on PH (to see if the scenes were any good) but got redirected to a page warning me that I was about to do something illegal. Then it hit me that this search query was getting flagged for the word 'Children'. I'm willing to bet the other major video platforms will have this same built-in protection (not trying to test it for obvious reasons). So yeah, searching the name of this game might get you flagged as a potential Sex Offender . Maybe change the name of the game to something that doesn't have 'Children', i.e. 'Spawn of Morn' or 'Seed of Morn'?

 

[Mortarion]

Name of this game is pretty unfortunate tbh. I tried searching 'Children of Morn' on PH (to see if the scenes were any good) but got redirected to a page warning me that I was about to do something illegal. Then it hit me that this search query was getting flagged for the word 'Children'. I'm willing to bet the other major video platforms will have this same built-in protection (not trying to test it for obvious reasons). So yeah, searching the name of this game might get you flagged as a potential Sex Offender . Maybe change the name of the game to something that doesn't have 'Children', i.e. 'Spawn of Morn' or 'Seed of Morn'?

 

[Potichard]

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Idk, I had no issues searching MIST up on xvideos or PH in the past. I wonder how content creators are gonna get around this issue because if it's programmed like this their videos are gonna get flagged and any people wanting to watch to see if they should install will get that 'Illegal Content' jump scare on PH. Hell, you could even call the game 'Blood of Morn' and it would fix this issue and let people post/search videos on it.

 

[Yuluoscar]

Let yourself cook, you believed in yourself in the beginning and the game is shaping up to be great. Sometimes there is merit in others criticisms and its good to recognize that and improve what you think you can without compromising your vision, but other times it just doesnt appeal to everyone which is impossible to make a story that does. CoM is only just started and ive absolutely loved it and cant wait to see more, I hope others opinions on it doesnt impact how you end up viewing the story and where you want to take it.

 

[395games]

Name of this game is pretty unfortunate tbh. I tried searching 'Children of Morn' on PH (to see if the scenes were any good) but got redirected to a page warning me that I was about to do something illegal. Then it hit me that this search query was getting flagged for the word 'Children'. I'm willing to bet the other major video platforms will have this same built-in protection (not trying to test it for obvious reasons). So yeah, searching the name of this game might get you flagged as a potential Sex Offender . Maybe change the name of the game to something that doesn't have 'Children', i.e. 'Spawn of Morn' or 'Seed of Morn'?

It is unfortunate, I didn't notice it while I did all the planning but my editor brought the problem to my attention. I was just so used to the name that I didn't even make the association. I'm already implementing the necessary changes and they'll roll out in the near future.

 

[coruptio]

hi mr dev ,just pasing by the thread looking how the game looking for the first time today, i really enjoyed both ur previous works !
im not playing any games before they're considered completed but im sure u will rock it good luck !

 

[a3on]

so... i've noticed this title for a while and have been avoiding it cause "Children of MORON" sure doesn't make any sense.
not that "children of morn" make sense to me either, but boy, talk about perspective

i'm sorry, dev(s). i'll read carefully from now on.
dyslexics are tepole poo

 

[zeph19]

Been a while since I've played this game, but the lasting impressions I had were (some of them are mentioned in the dev's post, but I'm just going to list them all in random order):

- I found the intro pretty engaging - the execution with the sister was intense and really fucking cool
- The Visuals are better
- The MC is a letdown. I don't want to play a monster (zombie), it makes the game much less immersive
- Female domination is meh. In the previous game, the girls were submissive and horny, sensual, sexy and now you have Enna who seems uninterested and the monster girl (not my thing) who talks a lot about fish and not sexy in general.
- Was the fishing difficult? I think I had some problem with that. If I have to sit upright and try hard at a mechanic that I have to grind 20 times to advance a character, my motivation is going to drop
- Same goes for the shop. I think that mechanic wasn't difficult, but.. why would I do it more than 5 times? Think I couldn't even press CTRL to speed it up.

But all in all, here I am, still interested in experiencing the next update. I know that the story interested me, and the Dev showed with Mist that he is able to make a good fucking game, so I'm hopeful that whatever change to this game will improve it.

I absolutely hate how fans and players of fucking porn games can become so mentally ill that they send actual threats to game devs whose games they often times play for fucking free, like wtf is going on in these people's heads?

 

[QQP_Purple]

Well, if we are leaving comments I might as well too.

The way I see it the premises is good. I like the idea of a necromantic zombie raised from the dead that feeds on sex. Especially since it's quite obvious that there is more going on with him and the girl which is why she chose him. And I am looking forward to discovering all that. And even if not, I get the feeling a romance is going to bloom here and that for some reason it's forbidden and that tickles my fancy. On a related note the art is good, the writing is nice and really overall I've no complaints about the story.

But the gameplay is a letdown. The game is basically a VN that really, really does not want to be a VN and so throws in minigames and decision tree in there just to be different. But like all VNs that do that it too falls flat because those aspects are clearly a filler mechanism rather than actual content. Their only purpose is to give you something to do in order to spread the limited amount of story you have out as much as possible. Which unfortunately leaves it feeling like too little butter spread over too much bread.

Skill based minigames are fine if that is the focus of the game. Like say in one of those solve the puzzle to see a nude games. But in a game with an actual story they only serve to get in the way and drag things on needlessly.

And choices only matter if they actually do something. Even if that something is as paper thin as seeing one event and missing out on another or seeing a character react differently. A decision tree where you "choose" which order to watch events in when you'll see them all anyway is the opposite of that. And putting it behind a point system you have to grind is just screaming filler and plainly not fun.

So yea, there is some great art and writing here but it's hiding behind a game that just need not be there.

So my advice to the dev would be simple. Either ditch the minigames and grinding or go all out and actually flesh them out into an actual gameplay system as opposed to just repeating the same minigame over and over again just to grind up to the next check mark on a linear path.

 

[cubepoised]

Can we get a link for the latest update please?

 

[Neeckin]

I feel like a lot of folks complaints regarding the MC would vanish if he simply looked different, not even regarding his skin colour. Right now he reminds me of a young protagonist from a harem anime, clean shaven and all that, when his background and experience bring to mind more a deep in the trenches reporter, older, a beard maybe, features that speak of a bit more maturity or ruggedness. We never got to see the MCs face for Mist but from the body he always seemed like some six foot six bear of a man which was fun.

 

[Crevanille]

I feel like a lot of folks complaints regarding the MC would vanish if he simply looked different, not even regarding his skin colour. Right now he reminds me of a young protagonist from a harem anime, clean shaven and all that, when his background and experience bring to mind more a deep in the trenches reporter, older, a beard maybe, features that speak of a bit more maturity or ruggedness. We never got to see the MCs face for Mist but from the body he always seemed like some six foot six bear of a man which was fun.

I actually don't have much to complain about the MC's looks honestly myself.

...No beards though, ugh.
I'll tolerate a stubble, but I don't like facial hair on my MCs....

That's just me tho.
I do agree a m9re 'rugged' vibe would fine, but I just don't mind the current look either.

 

[jokuur]

Man, I didn't know the reviews were being so destructive.
I understand people: Mist was a great game, but it still wasn't built in just one day.
I think Morn's characters still have a lot to offer (even if they are blue), but I think they are well designed and there are a lot of mysteries to solve.
The detective and dating gameplay is much more polished than the simple battle mode in MIST. The store sales before the last update was frustrating, but it has improved a lot since the last one. Fishing has also been a great addition, and is definitely the way forward.
I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but I think Morn is a great game and will end up being one of the biggest games on F95.
Happy New Year to all!

i dont think it will
not only visually but also story wise it doesnt interests me that much
you are servant to a blind woman who wanna kill her sister who is also blind but somehow could pick ur back with sword on the gallow (unless it wasnt her), i dont remember if they see him or not but if yes she shouldnt be confused if he saw him but not everyone else
now we got demon snake chick who is our servant and it means we had to make a pact with her in the past
mc is either demon or a powerful human who made pacts with demons in the past and he was possibly the one fighting witchers and witch-hunters in the place with swords
sisters were probably one person before that fight, blinding two people the same way would be wierd
the blobs, getting yourself uniform = putting on a cap i laughed at that moment a bit not gonna lie, i understand it makes game easier where all non essential characters not gonna look like anything but in the mist it had better sense we were alone and all other things were turned into shadows, here the explanation is just our perception which is worse, kinda lazy if im gonna be honest
i wrote about environment before, if someone want to see houses blank walls and streets instead of open tree areas kudos to you i dunno how you do it but more power to you
rivers in the city arent that clean so there could be fish in them extreme example would be Ganges river in india, this is imaginary berlin town tho
everything i wrote can be swept under because this is fantasy world but those are the reasons i dont find this game appealing
i dont find appeal from belly full of fish either

 

[Neeckin]

I actually don't have much to complain about the MC's looks honestly myself.

...No beards though, ugh.
I'll tolerate a stubble, but I don't like facial hair on my MCs....

That's just me tho.
I do agree a m9re 'rugged' vibe would fine, but I just don't mind the current look either.

XD Fine fine no beard, stubble though, that would be nice too. Just, I'd rather someone who looks like they are in their 30s, not a day over 18