Null Void Abyss
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Me too, nowadays almost all the good graphic games out there are mostly ntr or female protagonist. I really like seeing that I'm not alone in this harem thing (Because somethimes i think so). Wish this game get big.
pitao
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No offense but I think you have been looking into the wrong games if you think that, unless you are one of those that scream ntr to anything and everything that happens like some on this forum
but this is off topic anyway but if you want you can DM/Private message me and I'm always available to share suggestions and chat about games without going off topic. Cheers 
Joratox
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I've seen a whole lot of this kind of teasing in my daily life, done by women, or men, or even men/women friends. It happens. Dunno what else to tell you.
He specifically says those are all his earnings/savings. 100 dollars in earnings/savings counts as being broke tbf.
Did you Ctrl skip the last part of the update ? It's very clearly explained why Amber jumped his dick and who pays for Cradle building/experiments.
You made some good points in your post but there are a lot of assumptions and a whole lot of not reading the story on your part, then saying the story is bad/doesn't make sense...
I would also like the writing to be improved, it felt a bit unnatural and forced at times, but overall it does the job. The game is only on it's second update, you will get more info on things later on and will probably get to spend more time with characters that were introduced.
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Hey, thank you so much for this detailed feedback.
I genuinely appreciate it when someone not only plays the game but then takes the time to come back and go through everything point by point. That takes effort — and it's incredibly valuable. This is honestly one of my favorite pieces of feedback so far. It pinpoints both the strongest and weakest aspects of the project with precision.
I’ll try to explain why the game currently looks and feels the way it does.
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So thank you again. For taking the time. For pointing out what works and what doesn’t. For treating this seriously.
It means more than you think.
We’re far from done — and we’ll keep doing everything we can. Just two people trying to build something that matters. Whether we succeed or not… that’s for you to decide in the updates to come.
Developer/Writer/Designer, Cradle: Beyond the Veil
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Ah yes, that's my 'classic' narrative style: Schrödinger’s coherence. It both makes sense and absolutely doesn’t—until observed.
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1stWish Oh, one more feedback thing. What is up with those asterisks in the dialogue whenever something is meant to be emphasized?
That seriously confuses the hell out of me whenever I see it, because in my opinion using italics or something alike would read much better and feel more immersive than... well, that
That seriously confuses the hell out of me whenever I see it, because in my opinion using italics or something alike would read much better and feel more immersive than... well, that
pitao
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Loved the quantum physics joke since its my background (30 years ago) as a student, but didn't made it my profession but still have "love" and read about the topic often hehe.By do way does your narrative behave like a particle or a wave?
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Wave–particle duality ))
By do way does your narrative behave like a particle or a wave?
I also love quantum physics — but more as an example of real-life magic
Things like Einstein's “spooky action at a distance,” and so on — absolutely fascinating!
sexypeanut
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We most certainly will. I bet she lives in the same 'server' MC is rn.
Of course it happens. What I said is that it is really rare to happen when the hot dog seller you never saw in your life before is involved.
He was broke to the point of having to decide if he or his cat would eat each day. People that are at that point of povertiness don't have savings.
I did not. Again, it was buried among lots of other information in an exposition dump.
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I didn't say the story wasn't good nor that it didn't make sense, just that it has some important inconsistences. Also, you're the one making the assumption I didn't read or pay attention to the story.
I see. I applaud the drive of the team to deliver an AVN of superb quality. It is a project with great potential and I can see it grabbing the attention of lots of people.
Nonetheless, even if you guys cannot hire an editor for now, I suggest spending some time to analyze how the story is structured and the interactions between the characters happen so they can feel more meaningful - even if in a more basic way. That way, the Novel part of the AVN would blossom in a more organic and satisfying way for the player.
I bet 0.3 will become an even better experience than 0.2 if you guys do that.
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sexypeanut
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Good catch. AFAIK, asterisks are used for 'actions' during a dialogue, like this:1stWish Oh, one more feedback thing. What is up with those asterisks in the dialogue whenever something is meant to be emphasized?
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*Sobbing* I will never forget you, [MC name]!"Joratox
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Man, this is the last reply from me, stop digging that hole for yourself. You literally contradict yourself on each replay and keep getting lower in the hole.
Saying it's rare to happen, but still going on about it, like it was impossible. It's a porn game, ofc it will have some out of the ordinary moments.
Again...having 100 dollars to yourself is considered being broke...I don't know how to explain more. Don't know what confuses you that you needed to post twice.
" my comment was made while I playing the game, not after finishing it." Again, my assumption that you didn't read the story was correct..yet you still point it to me that I make wrong assumptions...smh
I'll stop here, not need to beat a dead horse anymore.
I gave this a go yesterday as well. And first of all, I want to say, that I'm quite impressed. The story was intrigueing enough to go through it and I even rolled back on some occasions after a choice to see the difference. The renders and animations are outstanding and probably will be one of the big selling points.
There are some points, that I also want to comment on, that were already raised. The character developement ist one of them. I won't start to write walls as well, because the other folks, who pointed that out, did it already plenty. But the sausage scene felt a bit forced at the start. And then later the MC jumps to help Mia just to run from the police, while doing nothing wrong? That made no sense. I was once in a similar situation, where I also helped a woman and even called the police. If you're helping, there is no need to run, you're even a witness, that could help to stop such crimes. Back to the game, the MC sees Mia then again at Cradle and even signs the same contract, because...? He saw her the third time and wants to basically run to her rescue, just to forget her after entering the simulation. Again, feels a bit disjointed. The points about Lara were detailed enough, I have nothing to add there. But the Elf, was it just a dream? Is she part of the simulation? Will there more to it or was it a one off scene? There was not really an explaination to it, therefor felt also disjointed.
I know, and I kept this in mind, while writing this, it is just the second release. And as I said, I liked it so far and I'm definitely looking forward to more releases. You both got something here, that can be successful. But it is important to not overwork, because that often results in burnouts and then abandoned games. Nobody wants that, there are too much good games, that went this route. Feedback is always good, trolling like we've already seen here, has only the goal to stop you. Please don't let the trolls discourage you.
I wish you both much success going forward!
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Good, your posts were going nowhere. Godspeed.
sexypeanut
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Nice call. There's something fishy with MC's past if he doesn't want the police involved in that. Although... why wouldn't Cradle spot that in a background check? They didn't perform one?
pitao
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Nice one, like I expected, behave like a particle when observed and as a wave when not.
Anyway I played the game yesterday and enjoyed it a lot. About what can be improved about the writing and narrative already been said a lot so won't say anything about it. You both also are aware of where it can be improved for sure.
Your animations are superb as always, but the 2 cents I can say about the animations during the sex scenes and maybe can be improved is the transitions from 1 animation to the next one, maybe you can add some dialogue during 1 animation (so I'll still need 2 or a few more clicks during it, currently 1 click moves to the next animation on almost all of them) and then make a smoother transition to the next animation, seems a bit abrupt, dunno, maybe there is coding tricks on renpy or on the graphic software to make those transitions more fluid and smoother.
I had often to rollback to enjoy the previous animation because they changed after just 1 click/space bar hehe, also notice sometimes on the transitions to appear for just some milliseconds the image of another animation or render, doesn't bother me much but my eye still catch those hehe.
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Got it — and you're definitely not the only one who's been weirded out by the asterisks.1stWish Oh, one more feedback thing. What is up with those asterisks in the dialogue whenever something is meant to be emphasized?
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It was my attempt to add emphasis to certain words or actions in dialogue... but yeah, it ends up feeling more awkward than natural.
I’ll probably stick to using asterisks just for non-verbal cues like sigh, smirk, giggle, and drop them from regular speech.
Appreciate you pointing it out
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Alright, really solid start, love the setup. Renders and animations are top tier. I really hope Lara isn't gone long and joins us in cradle soon, cause she is defintely my favorite so far and want more of her, so hopefully she isn't gone too long, please bring her soon, please. I really like Mia too, hope she is another main girl, cause she is cute and intriguing. But now time for some feedback and suggestions.
- Yeah, as you already acknowledged their are some writing problems. Some things don't make sense in sucession, grammar errors, words missing, or different words needed, misspellings and so forth. For example Elizabeth's name comes up early, then goes back to women in black, then she says her name and its spelled Elisabeth, so not spelled right. So I really hope you guys do find a writer or some proofreader or something in the future, cause that is one of my major issues.
- Sex scenes, the animations are top tier, that being said, I feel like they move a bit too fast, from postion to postion. Like all of sudden their clothes are off, or they are in next sex postion, like Amber, was on ball, then all of a sudden on chair, or all of sudden her shirt is off or shorts and panites. I think some extra renders showing the clothes coming off, showing them moving to next postion would help.
- This one goes along with previous one, I think more talking during animations. It feels like the animatons play, you click, then a little talking, then quiet again. A little more talking, romantic talk, dirty talk, etc. to add to the sex scenes is need. And on top the moans are good from the girls, but feels like it could be more intense moaning sounds, if you can find some, cause it feels constant.
-Some weird repetiton at times, like Elizabeth says good choice not messing with those guys, then says it again after we turn them down again in bar, felt weird, may go back to writing a bit. Also another one, earlier, can't remember where, but we say or think something, then again say or think later, that felt weird too.
-Melule talking did feel off, half the time not sure what word was meant to replace others, so when you do find writer, maybe clean that up a bit, have her talk more normal, just a suggestion.
-Some scenes may have moved a bit fast, like we sleep, we're in place need to be, turn to stone, carried to cell, and escape like nothing, felt a little too quick of pace there.
- The expostion at the end did feel a bit too long, maybe just too much info all at once, felt like that could be shortened, and got to point quicker, but this could just be me. Also felt like a closing screen could be better, then spitting back to main menu instantly.
-Suggestion: Can you make it so, if I put my name in all capitals, then it will reflect that in textbox and spoken dialogue. It goes lowercase after first letter, and I want it to be all capitals if I enter that way. I go by a nickname is why so only a couple letter and would like my name seen/read properly, please.
-Question/suggestion: I know in the past you had no plans for lesbian interactions. I was wondering where you stand on that now, cause I would like it if their was an option during threesomes and group sex for the girls to play with each other(kissing, boob play, licking pussy). I just feel group sex feels empty to me, so just asking or requesting a optional choice when this does come. You don't have to do it out of group sex, and you can make an option, but hopefully you consider adding this for future group sex, please.
I think that is all, Sorry for the long post, I really did enjoy your game and am exctied to see more. Don't think I didn't with all these criticims, just hope to see it improve to greatness. I really hope you take my feedback, apply it, and improve this game in many ways. One last time, bring Lara back soon. Other than that keep up the good work, I wish you much sucess and am really excited to see more of this game.
- Yeah, as you already acknowledged their are some writing problems. Some things don't make sense in sucession, grammar errors, words missing, or different words needed, misspellings and so forth. For example Elizabeth's name comes up early, then goes back to women in black, then she says her name and its spelled Elisabeth, so not spelled right. So I really hope you guys do find a writer or some proofreader or something in the future, cause that is one of my major issues.
- Sex scenes, the animations are top tier, that being said, I feel like they move a bit too fast, from postion to postion. Like all of sudden their clothes are off, or they are in next sex postion, like Amber, was on ball, then all of a sudden on chair, or all of sudden her shirt is off or shorts and panites. I think some extra renders showing the clothes coming off, showing them moving to next postion would help.
- This one goes along with previous one, I think more talking during animations. It feels like the animatons play, you click, then a little talking, then quiet again. A little more talking, romantic talk, dirty talk, etc. to add to the sex scenes is need. And on top the moans are good from the girls, but feels like it could be more intense moaning sounds, if you can find some, cause it feels constant.
-Some weird repetiton at times, like Elizabeth says good choice not messing with those guys, then says it again after we turn them down again in bar, felt weird, may go back to writing a bit. Also another one, earlier, can't remember where, but we say or think something, then again say or think later, that felt weird too.
-Melule talking did feel off, half the time not sure what word was meant to replace others, so when you do find writer, maybe clean that up a bit, have her talk more normal, just a suggestion.
-Some scenes may have moved a bit fast, like we sleep, we're in place need to be, turn to stone, carried to cell, and escape like nothing, felt a little too quick of pace there.
- The expostion at the end did feel a bit too long, maybe just too much info all at once, felt like that could be shortened, and got to point quicker, but this could just be me. Also felt like a closing screen could be better, then spitting back to main menu instantly.
-Suggestion: Can you make it so, if I put my name in all capitals, then it will reflect that in textbox and spoken dialogue. It goes lowercase after first letter, and I want it to be all capitals if I enter that way. I go by a nickname is why so only a couple letter and would like my name seen/read properly, please.
-Question/suggestion: I know in the past you had no plans for lesbian interactions. I was wondering where you stand on that now, cause I would like it if their was an option during threesomes and group sex for the girls to play with each other(kissing, boob play, licking pussy). I just feel group sex feels empty to me, so just asking or requesting a optional choice when this does come. You don't have to do it out of group sex, and you can make an option, but hopefully you consider adding this for future group sex, please.
I think that is all, Sorry for the long post, I really did enjoy your game and am exctied to see more. Don't think I didn't with all these criticims, just hope to see it improve to greatness. I really hope you take my feedback, apply it, and improve this game in many ways. One last time, bring Lara back soon. Other than that keep up the good work, I wish you much sucess and am really excited to see more of this game.
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