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Pixillin'

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Going by the description, this game is all about the stuff i play these games for to NOT have to think about them.
It's very unhealthy to ponder over problems that are impossible for you to solve.
It's early but so far I like it, the characters are interesting, the women are gorgeous, the animations are some of the best I've seen in an AVN - it's a little slow at times because of lore dumping but IMO it's good to get that done in the early chapters rather than pause for it when you're in the meat of the story. I don't know if it will make you think about things you'd rather not but for me it's off to a solid start.
 

Nopenopeno

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I hate when Devs makes games with unreadable language without a description. I don't understand a word she's saying. They could've put the translations in ()'s at the bottom. I want to understand EVERYTHING.:mad:. I understand she's an elf but still have it where the players can understand them. Even Google translate couldn't help me. Now i have to sit here a long time to try to understand what is being said. I give up until translations are added.It's just gibberish if you ask me. But to understand Fantasy games or stories, you need to understand everything but you can't.
They are trying to mimic an accent, with some other language mixed in,. Think "Spanglish", but with Elven. It's not a different language, it just uses substitutes for small words like "you", "is", "and" etc. that are fairly easy to figure out. Give it another go. It's only for the intro either way.
 

Pixillin'

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No, no you really don't. How many movies did I watch with some comments in languages I don't speak that had no subtitles either. Context usually gives enough hints. It certainly does here.
I got enough of what she was saying to understand. It took me a minute sometimes but it wasn't hard. It might be different if you're not a fluent English speaker though.
 
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Karnewarrior

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No, no you really don't. How many movies did I watch with some comments in languages I don't speak that had no subtitles either. Context usually gives enough hints. It certainly does here.
tbf, some people (most people, I'd wager), can't do that. Myself included.

Especially with some movies/games. Imagine trying to understand what was going on in Inception or Superliminal without a single iota of explaination beyond sheer visuals.
 
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tbf, some people (most people, I'd wager), can't do that. Myself included.

Especially with some movies/games. Imagine trying to understand what was going on in Inception or Superliminal without a single iota of explaination beyond sheer visuals.
That's fair, but I think you are overstating a bit. We really are not without any explanation.
Something like half the words are english to already give us pointers on what the rest might be. I'm not saying you can just guess 100% of the missing words right without issues, there is a certain mystery meant to be kept. It serves a bit to make us feel like the MC, who doesn't understand the words either, adding to the idea of being in a foreign world.
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My read on communication with the Elf at the start is that it was trying to show the MC, even though he doesn't speak her language, still understood the basic gist of what she meant via interpreting her tone, body language and some similar words. There were some bits I obviously didn't fully get, but I think that was intentional since in a situation like that you wouldn't understand much beyond the basics.

I actually think the dev was a bit generous with how understandable most of it was.

Not like it really matters anyway since she only appears in that one scene so far. If she appears again I'm betting we'll find a way to communicate more clearly with each-other.
 

1stWish

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I actually think the dev was a bit generous with how understandable most of it was.
Right now, what’s in the game is actually the third “simplified” iteration...
Not like it really matters anyway since she only appears in that one scene so far. If she appears again I'm betting we'll find a way to communicate more clearly with each-other.
I’m still deciding how to handle it — whether to keep the current simplified Sindarin or adjust it further.
 

Rake Tyler

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This game really fooled me. Now, speaking of this specific genre of game, which I don't like in the virtual world, for me it's just a false escape from reality, like having a baby or using drugs to forget your problems. Instead of facing your problems head-on, you choose to ignore them, look for an easy solution, or even pretend that the reality you're in doesn't exist. The Matrix movie addresses this in part. In this case, the game's story is where the protagonist didn't like the life he was leading, but instead of looking for a way to improve his life (through studying, for example), he chose an easier path. Another thing I found strange was the CEO saying that the population would surpass 10 billion, when the tendency is for it to decrease, not increase. After all, no one is having 10 or 12 children per family anymore. Lastly, I liked the machine the protagonist entered, I liked the concept. It would be useful during the pandemic. The person would enter it to earn money and leave when the pandemic was over, anyway this was not a criticism of the game it was just how I can say observations I made of things in the game that made me think (well this would make a good discussion in an ethics or philosophy class) speaking of the game itself I liked it mainly because it is well optimized
 
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This game really fooled me. Now, speaking of this specific genre of game, which I don't like in the virtual world, for me it's just a false escape from reality, like having a baby or using drugs to forget your problems. Instead of facing your problems head-on, you choose to ignore them, look for an easy solution, or even pretend that the reality you're in doesn't exist. The Matrix movie addresses this in part. In this case, the game's story is where the protagonist didn't like the life he was leading, but instead of looking for a way to improve his life (through studying, for example), he chose an easier path. Another thing I found strange was the CEO saying that the population would surpass 10 billion, when the tendency is for it to decrease, not increase. After all, no one is having 10 or 12 children per family anymore. Lastly, I liked the machine the protagonist entered, I liked the concept. It would be useful during the pandemic. The person would enter it to earn money and leave when the pandemic was over, anyway this was not a criticism of the game it was just how I can say observations I made of things in the game that made me think (well this would make a good discussion in an ethics or philosophy class) speaking of the game itself I liked it mainly because it is well optimized
For the main character, this is not an escape, but a way to find himself and try to achieve something more in his life in a new way. Thank you for your comment, it was interesting to read your opinion!
 

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Rake Tyler

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Well, I finally finished this update and I liked it, but I missed a little warning that the update was finished because it finished out of nowhere and when I clicked it went to the start menu and I had to load again to a part there just to save before the update finished, so a little warning that the update was finished and that it was time to save would be nice.
 

Pixillin'

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Well, I finally finished this update and I liked it, but I missed a little warning that the update was finished because it finished out of nowhere and when I clicked it went to the start menu and I had to load again to a part there just to save before the update finished, so a little warning that the update was finished and that it was time to save would be nice.
Yeah I noticed that too. Usually the Auto saves keep you from having to go back very far though (they'll usually take you to your last choice before the end).
 

1stWish

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Well, I finally finished this update and I liked it, but I missed a little warning that the update was finished because it finished out of nowhere and when I clicked it went to the start menu and I had to load again to a part there just to save before the update finished, so a little warning that the update was finished and that it was time to save would be nice.
I’ve added a short afterword at the end of the chapter,
together with a few small QoL improvements — like the option to toggle save naming.

The thread was updated just yesterday, if I’m not mistaken.
 

Monty10

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I was interesting in the story
but after that I lost interesting after the MC get in the sleeping pod
 

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Update Recap and What’s Next

It’s been a couple of weeks since the release of the update, and we’ve already received a lot of feedback from you. First of all, thank you — we’ve read everything carefully, and it really helps us see what works well and where we can improve.

Looking back, there are several things we’re genuinely happy with. The way we built the visual side — locations and characters — feels like a solid step forward. We also had a lot of fun working on the small sound details that add atmosphere to the scenes, and it seems they worked exactly as intended.

Chapter One was quite ambitious. We wanted to establish the foundation of the story right away, which made the update larger than we initially planned. The amount of renders, mini-animations, and sound effects ended up reaching the level of projects that have been around for years — something we’re proud of. At the same time, we understand that the size of the update came with its own challenges, and that’s something we’ll take into account moving forward.

For the next updates, our goal is to keep a more balanced scale. Instead of going huge every time, we want to make the content a bit more compact while focusing on overall quality and pacing. That means smoother storytelling, more polished dialogues, and at least two full high-quality intimate scenes in the next update.

As for the story itself — we plan to unfold it step by step, revealing just enough details to keep the narrative engaging and coherent, without overwhelming players with too much information at once.

We’ll do our best to make the next update smooth and clean, both in terms of immersion and enjoyment.
 

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Yeah, not good writing when you show us the Players betrayal, but the MC is oblivious to it. just adds unnecessary frustration, esp. seeing that bad deeds done by girls are pretty much encouraged by MC with his meekness and complete submissiveness and inability to piece things together.

Oh and also pulling the pin out of a grenade makes it a live one, so zip-tie it or toss as far as possible
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