Others Crisis Point: Extinction [v0.47] [Anon42]

[Anon42]

Hey can someone tell me which version still had the dog included?.

v0.27 h1 is the last version with Hellhounds.

Would be a nice touch it make it so the CG scenes were animated. Regardless; the art and game is amazing, Great work!

As much as I'd love to have animated CGs, I'm afraid it's not really in the budget right now, and none of our current team members are prepared to do something like that. Glad you like the game despite that, though! And who knows, maybe we can do something like that in a future game, if the cards fall into place

Woah I haven't played this game for ages and what a blast! Quality does really come with time . Amazing job. Do you plan to sell the full game once it is done?

Thanks for the kind words! As far as selling the game goes, yep, at the very least it'll go up on Steam as a SFW game with free NSFW DLC, much like House Party - the reason for that being that it allows the game to still get attention from a SFW userbase that doesn't want NSFW content, without sacrificing the game's NSFW nature in any way.

I'm sure that was their reason for changing and not Patreon cracking down on anything with incest or rape.

Yeah, Patreon sure did crack down on rape didn't it, with the literal dozens of high-profile games featuring rape that are still around? Get over yourself. It was 100% my decision. But hey, go ahead and think otherwise if you want, I really, truly don't have the fucks to give anymore. I've been fighting this argument for something like two years of my life now. Nothing I ever say or do will convince you people I legitimately wanted to change the game, and trying to prove it is a waste of my time, so go ahead and conspiracy away. I hope one day, Patreon somehow comes out in full support of rape in H-games, if for no other reason than it'll make people like you shut up when I continue to not have rape in my games even after that.


In any case, thank you so much to everyone who voices their opinions in a respectful way, even if you don't agree with my decisions - I've said it before, but I fully understand that my choices for Crisis Point will not be what everyone wanted, but there truly is no way to satisfy everyone. I'm not here to argue about that anymore though, so just know that I appreciate the hell out of every one of you who discusses the game, whether or not you like the changes, as long as you remain respectful.

 

[nicon99]

Get over yourself. It was 100% my decision. But hey, go ahead and think otherwise if you want, I really, truly don't have the fucks to give anymore.

The main concern I have is that I was an early Patreon, and pledged via 2 profiles for a respectable sum per month. I LOVED the game as it was from the beginning. You are probably one of the best h-game developers out there, your work was fantastic. But when you changed route, I felt ignored, money wasted for a long time. You did not post a poll about it or nothing, so as I Patreon I was disappointed. I'm not going to argue more, because it will not change anything, but as any hardcore fan, when something changes we get upset, because we loved it so much as it was.

When I posted on your Patreon page about it you replied with something like: If you don't like the change, move on.

In any case, thank you so much to everyone who voices their opinions in a respectful way, even if you don't agree with my decisions.

That goes both way. I am happy to pledge for developers that treat patreons in a respectful way, even if I don't agree with their decisions.

 

[Anon42]

The main concern I have is that I was an early Patreon, and pledged via 2 profiles for a respectable sum per month. I LOVED the game as it was from the beginning. You are probably one of the best h-game developers out there, your work was fantastic. But when you changed route, I felt ignored, money wasted for a long time. You did not post a poll about it or nothing, so as I Patreon I was disappointed. I'm not going to argue more, because it will not change anything, but as any hardcore fan, when something changes we get upset, because we loved it so much as it was.

When I posted on your Patreon page about it you replied with something like: If you don't like the change, move on.



That goes both way. I am happy to pledge for developers that treat patreons in a respectful way, even if I don't agree with their decisions.

The reason there was no poll is because, like moohoo alluded to, Patreon banned rape - now, years later, we know that it seems like they aren't really cracking down on non-con games (unless it's overtly realistic rape), but at the time there was literally no way to know that was the case. All I knew was that Patreon said "rape is banned", and I already wanted to remove the rape, so the decision was not something that could be left up to Patrons. I already wanted to change it, and by not changing it I was risking my livelihood, so why wouldn't I?

And now, because I am so much happier with where the game is, even though Patreon seems to not really be going after rape, I have almost no reason to return the game to what it used to be. Aside from pleasing a few very vocal people (most of which like to sling insults my way anyway so why would I want to do anything to please them), we've already dropped thousands of dollars into the new consensual scenarios between animation changes, CG reworks, and voice acting, so changing it back would mean not only losing tons of development time and money, but also taking away a thing that makes me much happier with my work. I am genuinely sorry if I ever came across as dismissive; it's not my intention to dismiss people's concerns, ESPECIALLY patrons of the game, but the fact of the matter is that we are not going back, ever. All I can ask is that you please understand where that was coming from - it's been literally two years. I am so immensely tired of fighting this fight. It's not ever changing back, no matter how much people harass me about it, and despite that everyone seems to feel like they need to bring it back up again, even knowing my stance. It's so unbelievably exhausting.

 

[darmon]

Thanks for the kind words! As far as selling the game goes, yep, at the very least it'll go up on Steam as a SFW game with free NSFW DLC, much like House Party - the reason for that being that it allows the game to still get attention from a SFW userbase that doesn't want NSFW content, without sacrificing the game's NSFW nature in any way.

Neat! Do you already have a price range or estimated release date in mind?

 

[somedud112]

In the cg viewer there is one final option thats missing. Anyone know where to find it ?

 

[MrDefault]

Is there any walktrought here? I got grappling hook and I passed area with moving platform but there is tar and I can not jump high enough. I went back and found green futa, got upgrade thingy. Now I am stuck and completly clueless.
EDIT: Okay Ihave beaten Holy Space Tart, what next?

 

[tuvieja41]

man this game even in easy mode is hard, respect for those playing in actual hard

 

[Lasucrom]

We don't have any real impregnation content right now (the closest we have is some cum inflation), and sorry to say but it's not really something I'm into, so it's not super likely we'll have any.

But Birch needs to know, it's for science, do it for science anon.

 

[TheClownstorm]

I havent been paying attention to the game for a while and I remember the last version I played had a room to the left of the start where you could teleport to different areas to speed up the game, was that completely removed or moved? and is there any way at all to speed things up so you dont have to go through the entirety of the demo to get to the debug room?

 

[E N I G M A]

I havent been paying attention to the game for a while and I remember the last version I played had a room to the left of the start where you could teleport to different areas to speed up the game, was that completely removed or moved? and is there any way at all to speed things up so you dont have to go through the entirety of the demo to get to the debug room?

Room teleportation feature removed. No way to speed things up. Gotta grind back up

 

[E N I G M A]

Is there any walktrought here? I got grappling hook and I passed area with moving platform but there is tar and I can not jump high enough. I went back and found green futa, got upgrade thingy. Now I am stuck and completly clueless.
EDIT: Okay Ihave beaten Holy Space Tart, what next?

If you have the omni-dash, go to the caves. I can't recall exactly but at X=29 and Y=29, you can dash through a crevice to move to the next area.

 

[E N I G M A]

In the cg viewer there is one final option thats missing. Anyone know where to find it ?

The boss for the jungle area. Beat her or lose to her and you'll get it.

 

[IchigoRadiance]

I'd like to voice my opinion on some things that seem to be consistently brought up. I've silently followed this game's progress since its original demo, and I quite like how it has grown. It is a shame that the hellhounds had to be changed because of Patreon's prudish nature, but I like the way the dev handled the situation. Better the content be altered than entirely removed. As for GoR, it was never a good idea to begin with. I don't just mean for this game, as the dev is entirely right about GoR being a weirdly common trend among porn games that has refused to die throughout the years. It is counter-intuitive to have a game where the player wants to have sex, yet sex is the punishment for failure.

There are few games that have GoR done well, as the very concept of placing the reward the player seeks behind the sour sting of defeat is simply madness. Often, a good game that has GoR is good despite that mechanic, not because of it. Future Fragments is a good example of a game that makes it work, but it does so by spreading out checkpoints and working the respawn mechanic into the game's own lore. It worked around and with the idea rather than having it be an actual end to the story.

Another way to handle it would be to have the GoR in place, yet not let it dominate the content. I've only seen this in a select few really well done games. In these games, GoRs happen but are far from the main focus of the content. In those games, they feel like a natural part of a larger world rather than an obligation for the player to lose to see some content, and those game often have larger stories that continue from those scenes rather than letting it end there. A good example of this would be Violated Heroine.

Unfortunately, a lot of games take after the once incredibly popular Monster Girl Quest in handling GoR. It had little to no sexual content outside of said GoRs. It let the GoR be just that, a gameover. You start right back at the fight and do it over until you win and move on. The sex was more like an after thought rather than a proper part of the game or lore, as most of the scenes in the game have to be considered non-canon to the story the game is trying to tell. It also didn't help that the game was piss easy even on the hardest difficulty, so the player would have to intentionally lose just to see anything.

Beyond all that, I'm happy with the direction the dev for this game is going for another reason. I've noticed a somewhat unfortunate trend in my preferred genres and am glad to see games like this one, Future Fragments, Monster Girl Dreams, etc. defy said trend. H-games are too serious anymore. I miss when rape in hentai was treated like surprise sex you didn't know you wanted, at least then it wasn't such an issue that rape is almost everywhere in h-games. But no, these days h-games tend to bring up the serious and traumatic ramifications of such an act. Nothing kills my arousal faster. Its porn for fucks sake. Is it too much to ask that we just have some fun with it?

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with GoR mechanically. I realize it could be seen as a punishment, but I and many others don't. Most of the good H-games that stuck in my mind tend to have it and a large part of my enjoyment has been finding all of the h-scenes. Where some falter is making the GoR too punishing. When the game reloads you not too far from where you were, for instance at the start of your current screen or at a close by checkpoint (with numerous checkpoints, or for instance when fighting a boss at the beginning of the boss fight) then it really isn't a punishment to me. Lastly, it allows the character to experience something that would make no sense for them to survive or otherwise continue on unharmed. Note however, that there are some games that have just GoR that could use more than such, but the GoR itself isn't the issue.

Also, I disagree that h-games are too serious. Rather I think it's devs that are thinking too seriously about it. Games stopped treating rape as surprise sex because the people making and buying them stopped feeling guilty about enjoying something a bit darker. But make no mistake, it's still rape. The dev of this game said that the rape didn't feel right in the game and yet one has to wonder if the protagonist of the game would willingly choose to have sex with any of these creatures if their mind was compleely lucid and the answer is likely a no. More than that though, one has to ask if that would actually matter for the creature, are we supposed to believe they respect her decisions? I would bet not. Consensual sex has a place in h-games, but here and other games it doesn't come across as consensual, it's still rapey, just not as much as before. I do get the appeal of this as well, but again a lot of it comes across as thinking too seriously on the subject. It's like "I want something a bit rapey, but not too much." If that is what you want, more power to you. It's all fiction anyway. But just as the more half/half approach may cater to your tastes, a lot of the more darker representations also cater to others tastes. They are most common because people want them. And more power to them too because again it's all fiction.

 

[lordlundar]

I've considered it, but given that it lacks monster, tentacle, or bestiality tags, I fear it will only have bland, boring human x human scenes. Or am I mistaken on that?

Only scenes with humans are the possessed soldiers and scientists. There's plenty of monster sex and a tentacle or two.

 

[Xelantrop]

Looks like I'm missing the CG between Alraune and the worms, can someone tell me what enemy am I avoiding? I think i got them all, I even did all the bosses.

 

[Xol]

Only scenes with humans are the possessed soldiers and scientists. There's plenty of monster sex and a tentacle or two.

I broke down and tried it yesterday. I do like the designs of some of the newer monsters, admittedly; the older game before they started doing standalone level updates didn't have as much that interested me though. Way too much focus on breasts/milking fetishes. At least some of the robotic enemies had interesting designs.

 

[Anon42]

Neat! Do you already have a price range or estimated release date in mind?

The price will probably be somewhere around $15-20, but we have no release date right now. Don't want to come up with one until I can be absolutely confident in it

The dev of this game said that the rape didn't feel right in the game and yet one has to wonder if the protagonist of the game would willingly choose to have sex with any of these creatures if their mind was compleely lucid and the answer is likely a no.

No offense, but what exactly makes you think you're an authority on my character? Alicia's a kinky bitch even without the planet's influence. And if you haven't noticed, the majority of creatures on the planet are a lot more gentle sexually than you might expect, and they typically end up pleasuring Alicia as much as themselves, a fact which you can clearly see in any of the CGs, meaning they're not purely out there to ravage and rape and give nothing in return. Maybe there's more to it than you think there is and you shouldn't try to speak hypotheticals about a game you aren't involved with in any way?

 

[MrDefault]

Is sniper girl last thing in this update?

 

[YungReaper]

The CG and Gallery links doesn't work

 

[IchigoRadiance]

No offense, but what exactly makes you think you're an authority on my character? Alicia's a kinky bitch even without the planet's influence. And if you haven't noticed, the majority of creatures on the planet are a lot more gentle sexually than you might expect, and they typically end up pleasuring Alicia as much as themselves, a fact which you can clearly see in any of the CGs, meaning they're not purely out there to ravage and rape and give nothing in return. Maybe there's more to it than you think there is and you shouldn't try to speak hypotheticals about a game you aren't involved with in any way?

I never said I was an authority, but kinky or not, nothing in the game made me think they would have willingly chosen to have sex with the creatures, especially when many of them are outright aggressive against them. It just seems awfully convenient that this character has no problem with having sex with a bunch of monsters (many of which would likely look and feel pretty grotesque). They might be gentle, but am I really suppose to believe they would remain so if she were to struggle. Personally I think the idea of trying to push the morality of humans onto different species that likely haven't encountered many if any humans like that to be a bit silly because I don't expect them to have that kind of understanding of things like consent. A human may do things that they feel is right or wrong, but most animals do things for survival or base pleasure.

Like I said, I get I get the appeal of this too. But the change comes across as an unnecessary "excuse". The aphrodisiac in this sense seems like added security for it. But rather than helps, imo it breaks it apart. If one tries to apply any real world scrutiny to it it would fall apart. On the other hand, if one's reason for it is that it's what they like in their porn, then there is no problem because it's fiction. It's entirely possible to conjure up a world where this is seen as not so bad, as okay, or even good. Maybe the character really does have no problem having sex with monsters. But it's a bit like when people justify pokemon battles with logic like "they like to fight", or "it doesn't hurt them. The player knows that in this fictional world, that may work, but also that if they were to apply real world logic to it, you really couldn't justify it. It doesn't harm their enjoyment of the titles, if anything it's just kind of funny to think about because it is fiction.

Note that I am not necessarily saying that this has an effect on one's enjoyment of the game, merely that I see the sex as depicted in the game to be a lighter representation of rape as opposed to consentual sex or a darker representation. My previous post was more in response to the idea that these darker representations are trying to be too serious when honestly if they were they would be actively trying to be at least more accurate and would likely guilt trip you. An example of a more serious depiction would be a character that the player may have come to care about or will come to care about getting raped and the player seeing the negative effects it has on them. Most of the darker representations are still difficult to take seriously though. The character gets raped, often in ways that would likely kill them or at least seriously harm them, and then they walk away, at most taking a moment to rest. Worst comes to worst, the game rewinds time and it never happened.