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VN Ren'Py Cultural Replay: An Unofficial Culture Shock Fan Project [v0.36] [Palos69]

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If a non-romanced female character is physical with another female NPC, is it considered NTR?


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BBC King

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Will this version NOT be some NTR focused trash?
thing i hated most about the OG game was the MC was still such a fuckin beta bitch compared to the other guys, he was still basically a cuck. especially as it took 2.5 season to actually get anywhere with fam
I hope you realize the whole point of the game was the fact that there were 2 distinct paths that appealed to Harem and NTR players. If the MC was a "beta" in your playthrough it was because you chose the beta dialogue options.
Hahahaha really? a fan game of a game that is still being broadcast, in the same engine as the original, with the same story and that does not change anything, since the other one focuses on ntr and this one too...

This is the same thing that happened with "big brother", "power of vacuum", and bobbys saga.

This will die in 3 months MAXIMUM.
lmfao bro is doing that psychology thing where he braces himself for disappointment, so if it does happen he isnt hurt badly. Calm down dude, the dev said he does this for fun. Stop treating it like an actual game being worked on day and night and more like something to keep an eye on.
 

DarkMask

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Palos69 any plans to slow down Tracy's corruption? Always found it a bit weird that it went slow in the beginning and once Marcus takes interest, it goes into hyper-speed. You think it would take more time since Tracy knows Marcus is dating her daughter and all.
 

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I'll release an Android version with the next update. I've never done it before, so there may be a learning curve for me.


No new renders will be made unless someone wants to make them. There are ways I can manipulate images through the engine, so I do have some tools, but we may have to rely on suspension of disbelief. I won't be mixing older renders with newer ones when constructing new scenes, though, so hopefully that will prevent it from being too jarring.

If I catch up to the original game, than I will simply stop development until they update. As crazy as it sounds, I do have a New Game+ idea outlined with a relatively novel concept for the genre. However, I'm concerned that writing an ending would actually damage his income, so I'm hesitant to implement anything in that regard until the game is officially abandoned or a reasonable amount of time has passed where we can assume so.
How about you finish the game called (love and Submission) by Veqvil it's already abandoned you can continue it.
 

Juninpachi

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Will this version NOT be some NTR focused trash?
thing i hated most about the OG game was the MC was still such a fuckin beta bitch compared to the other guys, he was still basically a cuck. especially as it took 2.5 season to actually get anywhere with fam
Here's an idea... Don't play it. L Rat.
 

texasterry

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Palos69, I realize this suggestion/observation is likely unachievable since your version is dependent on existing renders, but story-wise it never made any sense to me that Marcus would be the primary one to corrupt the MC's mom on the beta path. Really? She's going to fall for a college kid that is also dating her daughter? I assumed that it was going be Marcus' dad after the first few releases of the original. He was the boss of the mother. He controls whether she is employed, what she earns, how much she works, how late she works. He has money, power, influence, etc. What avenue of power or control does Marcus have over the MC's mother to control or corrupt her? Is he going to win her over with his college cafeteria pass?
 
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Aireaux

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Why do this for culture shock (admittedly a great game) when its still getting updates when you could do it for a game like the tyrant and get such a ridiculous patreon monthly sub itd be insane. I myself would pay 100 a month to someone redoing the tyrant.
 
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i my opinion it makes more sense if you made "what if's" rather than do a "replay".
personally if i wanted the "replay" a past/existing VN i'll go replay the original.
 
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story will change somehow can integrate dream scenes and extra poker night scenes to a more reliable NTR situations by inserting in late chapters, same game different story like, but hard work
 

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Palos69, I realize this suggestion/observation is likely unachievable since your version is dependent on existing renders, but story-wise it never made any sense to me that Marcus would be the primary one to corrupt the MC's mom on the beta path. Really? She's going to fall for a college kid that is also dating her daughter? I assumed that it was going be Marcus' dad after the first few releases of the original. He was the boss of the mother. He controls whether she is employed, what she earns, how much she works, how late she works. He has money, power, influence, etc. What avenue of power or control does Marcus have over the MC's mother to control or corrupt her? Is he going to win her over with his college cafeteria pass?
Dev has forgotten about Marcus father and modelling work, started towards that route by dressing more and more sluttier outfits to work hinting in an unseen corruption if in beta route with high sluttiness but it was not developed, something probably happened at work as Tracy was more open to give a handjob to a college kid and have bigger breasts somehow can some drugs increase breasts size?
this game uses pov version if mc can not see, it is not shown, it is a very big limitation. Many things may have happened without Mcs knowledge, worst offender is Day 31 beta path Tracy Marcus cunniculus scene, no way to know how it came to that
 

Palos69

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Palos69 any plans to slow down Tracy's corruption? Always found it a bit weird that it went slow in the beginning and once Marcus takes interest, it goes into hyper-speed. You think it would take more time since Tracy knows Marcus is dating her daughter and all.
I completely agree. I’ve actually removed that mechanic completely. My goal is to create a series of events and relationship dynamics that would make the game’s scenes plausible, or at the bare minimum follow a logical flow.

Palos69, I realize this suggestion/observation is likely unachievable since your version is dependent on existing renders, but story-wise it never made any sense to me that Marcus would be the primary one to corrupt the MC's mom on the beta path. Really? She's going to fall for a college kid that is also dating her daughter? I assumed that it was going be Marcus' dad after the first few releases of the original. He was the boss of the mother. He controls whether she is employed, what she earns, how much she works, how late she works. He has money, power, influence, etc. What avenue of power or control does Marcus have over the MC's mother to control or corrupt her? Is he going to win her over with his college cafeteria pass?
Similar to the comment above, but I’ll elaborate on the character dynamics. In the original game, I think the characters were pretty 2D from a writing perspective, like porn characters normally are. I’ve written new backstories for all of them (some are quite dark) and I’ve started seeding little bits of that information in the dialogue and how they interact with each other. From my perspective, some of these characters would have to be kind of fucked up to do the things they do. The trick is for them to be just fucked up enough, that it’s not comedic.

As of right now, I don’t see her ever “falling” for Marcus, but sex isn’t always about love. Most of the reasons I have outlined for them to fuck have more to do with the sister and the MC, than Marcus himself.

Why do this for culture shock (admittedly a great game) when its still getting updates when you could do it for a game like the tyrant and get such a ridiculous patreon monthly sub itd be insane. I myself would pay 100 a month to someone redoing the tyrant.
That’s a complex question. Apologies for the wall of text.

I don’t think people believe me when I say it’s for fun. I do a lot of sudoku, crosswords, word games, etc. And this hits all those buttons. Here’s some code to illustrate.

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First I fix the grammar, spelling, and flow of the original scene. After that, I remove any writing that makes no sense or is too cringe. In the above example, the main character is baffled that he’s waking up on time, despite clearly having an alarm clock.

I find it amusing when people post in the thread that nothing is different from the original game. It means what I’m doing is working. Writing is the most noticeable when it’s bad.

Afterwards, I split up each original class by subject, and note each relevant character and event variable that could change the scene. I then integrate those conditions into a block of text that needs to flow correctly if one, some, or all of those variables are missing. It takes creativity, logic, skill with language, and you get the immediate feedback of seeing your changes reflected in the game on another screen. I’m consistently in the flow state.

It’s the thing I like the most about RenPy visual novels. You can craft this really complex dialogue that you could never get in a AAA title, because it just wouldn’t be worth the opportunity cost. The people who have been the most enthusiastic about this project seem to be the ones who tried it more than once and tried different things.

The other major reason is the renders. I don’t want this to come off as being overly critical of the original game, because I enjoyed it. But the renders took so many shortcuts from a composition perspective that it makes this whole project possible. Many of them use the same clothes, the same locations, empty backgrounds, etc. And there are a lot of them.

And I have thought about rewriting Tyrant as a visual novel instead of the original game. But it has a much larger, more rabid fan base. I think there would be a lot of pressure and it would turn into a job real fast. From a technical perspective, it also relies a lot on a ui navigation loop to hide how few images there are.

story will change somehow can integrate dream scenes and extra poker night scenes to a more reliable NTR situations by inserting in late chapters, same game different story like, but hard work
Exactly this. I see people begging for “the” Marcus and Tracy sex scene in the original thread all the time. But those scenes have existed for a long time. They just need to be recontextualized.
 
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DarkMask

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I completely agree. I’ve actually removed that mechanic completely. My goal is to create a series of events and relationship dynamics that would make the game’s scenes plausible, or at the bare minimum follow a logical flow.


Similar to the comment above, but I’ll elaborate on the character dynamics. In the original game, I think the characters were pretty 2D from a writing perspective, like porn characters normally are. I’ve written new backstories for all of them (some are quite dark) and I’ve started seeding little bits of that information in the dialogue and how they interact with each other. From my perspective, some of these characters would have to be kind of fucked up to do the things they do. The trick is for them to just be fucked up enough, that it’s not comedic.

As of right now, I don’t see her ever “falling” for Marcus, but sex isn’t always about love. Most of the reasons I have outlined for them to fuck have more to do with the sister and the MC, than Marcus himself.


That’s a complex question. Apologies for the wall of text.

I don’t think people believe me when I say it’s fun. I do a lot of sudoku, crosswords, word games, etc. And this hits all those buttons. Here’s some code to illustrate.

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First I fix the grammar, spelling, and flow of the original scene. After that, I remove any writing that makes no sense or is too cringe. In the above example, the main character is baffled that he’s waking up on time, despite clearly having an alarm clock.

Afterwards, I split up each original class by subject, and note each relevant character and event variable that could change the scene. I then integrate those conditions into a block of text that needs to flow correctly if one, some, or all of those variables are missing. It takes creativity, logic, skill at the English language, and you get the immediate feedback of seeing your changes reflected in the game on another screen. I’m consistently in the flow state.

And because 85% of the original game is just blocks of text with route pathing changing what block of text you see next, I have a lot to work with.

I find it amusing when people tell me that nothing is different from the original game. It means what I’m doing is working. Writing is the most noticeable when it’s bad. And the people who have been the most enthusiastic about the project seem to be the ones who tried it more than once.

The other major reason is the renders. I don’t want this to come off as being overly critical of the original game, because I enjoyed it. But the renders took so many shortcuts from a composition perspective that it makes this whole project possible. Many of them use the same clothes, the same locations, generic positioning, etc.

And I have thought about rewriting Tyrant as a visual novel instead of the original game. But it has a much larger, more rabid fan base. I think there would be a lot more pressure and it would turn into a job real fast.


Exactly this. I see people begging for “the” Marcus and Tracy sex scene in the original thread all the time. But those scenes have existed for a long time. They just need to be recontextualized.
Appreciate the reply and glad to hear you thought the same as well. There's a lot that can be done to pad the sexual situations to make it more authentic so looking forward to how you decide to handle this.

A follow-up question, how are you going to handle the sub-paths? So far, whether you decide to help Marcus or attempt to stop him has zero effect on the following events as the story plays out the same with only the dialogue really being the big difference.
 
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texasterry

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I completely agree. I’ve actually removed that mechanic completely. My goal is to create a series of events and relationship dynamics that would make the game’s scenes plausible, or at the bare minimum follow a logical flow.


Similar to the comment above, but I’ll elaborate on the character dynamics. In the original game, I think the characters were pretty 2D from a writing perspective, like porn characters normally are. I’ve written new backstories for all of them (some are quite dark) and I’ve started seeding little bits of that information in the dialogue and how they interact with the others. From my perspective, some of these characters would have to be kind of fucked up to do the things they do. The trick is for them to just be fucked up enough, that it’s not comedic.

As of right now, I don’t see her ever “falling” for Marcus, but sex isn’t always about love. Most of the reasons I have outlined for them to fuck have more to do with the sister and the MC, than Marcus himself.


That’s a complex question. Apologies for the wall of text.

I don’t think people believe me when I say it’s fun. I do a lot of sudoku, crosswords, word games, etc. And this hits all those buttons. Here’s some code to illustrate.

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First I fix the grammar, spelling, and flow of the original scene. After that, I remove any writing that makes no sense or is too cringe. In the above example, the main character is baffled that he’s waking up on time, despite clearly having an alarm clock.

Afterwards, I split up each original class by subject, and note each relevant character and event variable that could change the scene. I then integrate those conditions into a block of text that needs to flow correctly if one, some, or all of those variables are missing. It takes creativity, logic, skill at the English language, and you get the immediate feedback of seeing your changes reflected in the game on another screen. I’m consistently in the flow state.

And because 85% of the original game is just blocks of text with route pathing changing what block of text you see next, I have a lot to work with.

I find it amusing when people tell me that nothing is different from the original game. It means what I’m doing is working. Writing is the most noticeable when it’s bad. The people who have been the most enthusiastic about the project are the ones who tried it more than once and made different choices.

The other major reason is the renders. I don’t want this to come off as being overly critical of the original game, because I enjoyed it. But the renders took so many shortcuts from a composition perspective that it makes this whole project possible. Many of them use the same clothes, the same locations, generic positioning, etc.

And I have thought about rewriting Tyrant as a visual novel instead of the original game. But it has a much larger, more rabid fan base. I think there would be a lot more pressure and it would turn into a job real fast.


Exactly this. I see people begging for “the” Marcus and Tracy sex scene in the original thread all the time. But those scenes have existed for a long time. They just need to be recontextualized.
Full disclosure, I'm not an NTR fan. But I do respect a good story. And I don't think that I'm all alone in feeling let down by the story in Culture Shock. It had all the initial promise of an interesting story. The MC was a little goofy with his 'Johhny Bravo' haircut, but it had tons of potential of where to take the story.

It seems to have suffered from numerous writer changes (and some writers seemed to relish developing only one game route to the resulting atrophy of the other) and maybe a 'masterplan/vision' of where to take it beyond a certain point.

I'll try not to be overly critical because to develop a game most likely takes skill sets that don't normally overlap. I'm going to guess that someone good at scheduling, planning, or coding, may not be great at user interface, art, creative writing or rendering. Or some combos thereof. Some may be good at a few, but probably not all.

And then, it seems, for most game developers, it starts out as a hobby and if the game is initially well received, it can become a demanding job. Burn out inevitably ensues.

My point is, it seems you also seem to appreciate the (unrealized) potential of the game, and have a passion/enjoy the coding (as well as a few other aspects of the game) so I wish you well in sorting out the story, making it better, and to have it make more sense, all the while not overextending/burning yourself out.
 

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I’m liking this so far. Well done. I think I’m noticing this already from the dialogue: love score seems to make more of a difference here. It seemed like a missed opportunity in the first game, at least based on my reading, that love score seemed to matter less as updates continued. I believe that a high love score should lead to NTR scenes and beta route character interactions that are more playful/friendly in nature instead of just juvenile insults. A lot of the NTR scenes and beta route character interactions in the previous game, especially with Sunny, seemed to grow abnormally hostile very fast. I could be misremembering some details. It has been a while.

Conversely, I think love score should be more involved in the alpha route as well. If low love score is present on the alpha route, perhaps that charcter’s sex scenes are just about the sex with a more casual vibe to their interactions. I think I see your writing laying groundwork for this. Regardless, you’re off to a good start, and I look forward to next update.
 

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Hahahaha really? a fan game of a game that is still being broadcast, in the same engine as the original, with the same story and that does not change anything, since the other one focuses on ntr and this one too...

This is the same thing that happened with "big brother", "power of vacuum", and bobbys saga.

This will die in 3 months MAXIMUM.




Nope, this is the same thing, it's just the delusions of some fanboy who will abandon this in 3 months (3 or 4 updates at most)
I mean I'm expecting that to, besides just spelling there doesn't seem to be to much to add or
I hope you realize the whole point of the game was the fact that there were 2 distinct paths that appealed to Harem and NTR players. If the MC was a "beta" in your playthrough it was because you chose the beta dialogue options.

lmfao bro is doing that psychology thing where he braces himself for disappointment, so if it does happen he isnt hurt badly. Calm down dude, the dev said he does this for fun. Stop treating it like an actual game being worked on day and night and more like something to keep an eye on.
Well no, played the "alpha" path, and the dude still acted like a bitch and just all around beta-ish, wasn't able to much of any variation between the 2 patches in terms of character, and frankly ya, most of that was due to the shitty writing, also why I'm asking if he's gunna keep the same NTR beta focused MC or will the rewrites actually have some character fixes where he is more Alpha on average. Obviously not expecting it in the first update an stuff, but over time. Seems like sis relation progress faster and a bit more fluid, but still has this crazy polarity between the routes
 

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Well no, played the "alpha" path, and the dude still acted like a bitch and just all around beta-ish, wasn't able to much of any variation between the 2 patches in terms of character, and frankly ya, most of that was due to the shitty writing, also why I'm asking if he's gunna keep the same NTR beta focused MC or will the rewrites actually have some character fixes where he is more Alpha on average. Obviously not expecting it in the first update an stuff, but over time. Seems like sis relation progress faster and a bit more fluid, but still has this crazy polarity between the routes
Yeah, the MC is a virgin still even if he is an “alpha”. The intent is for him to get more confident as time goes by but we’ll see if I can keep the writing organized enough that it works. I actually wrote a function in the game that switches out text based on a player’s status.

I’ll be honest, this project is going to be more Beta than Alpha focused. While I can address the story and character development, the renders just aren’t there in the fanart section for additional scenes for that route. And while I can recontextualize sex scenes into beta ones, it’s going to be much harder to do the opposite.

Feel free to let me know when something doesn’t feel right to you on the Alpha path. As long as you have a good explanation, I’m more than happy to change it or add additional branches in a dialogue tree.
A follow-up question, how are you going to handle the sub-paths? So far, whether you decide to help Marcus or attempt to stop him has zero effect on the following events as the story plays out the same with only the dialogue really being the big difference.
As another user noticed, the relationship scores will have more of an impact. I have a rough outline on how things will play out, but it’s constantly changing when I integrate new days.

black guy is omitted this update, how will the creampie situation be resolved?
sexiest part in NTR path was creampied Tracy returning home drunk
That still happens. She can still go on the date and come home. The sex scene itself was omitted. Instead of a flashback, it’s being reserved for a scene that actually involves the mc. The MC will probably bring up the creampie with her in future dialogue, but there won't be any lasting impacts from her going bareback that specific time.
 
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I love what you're doing here man. I'm so glad someone is finally taking the game and making it coherent! I'm actually more excited for updates of this than the OG game at this point because the writing in that one has gotten beyond bad.

I played through this yesterday and I'm wondering, are certain ntr scenes removed/rearranged so far? I made almost all beta choices but it seems I'm still getting alpha scenes and minimal ntr. I have ntr enabled, but I didn't get the scene where Marcus fucks Sophie in front of mc. Instead she jerked off both of us which was the alpha path in the original game. I also got jerked off by Aunt Liza around the cucumber scene and I feel like that was also an alpha path thing in the original game.
 
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