Ren'Py Cursed Overlord [v1.17 AD] [King's Turtle]

[Daiji]

Woah. Okay. First things first. That reply oozes scorn, and gives a sense of you looking down on people, who dare say anything, any thing, negative about the game. I had to double back and go over the thread again, because I thought I saw replies when you are being helpful to people asking questions. Which indeed turned out to be true.

So I am going to assume that is not intended. Though some of it can be understandable, people often are not being reasonable and driving Developers mad with their bullshit.

Now, in general and this was supposed to be evident by the initial opening of my first Comment. I find the game appealing in many ways. That is why I said I want to like it. But again I find the elements I mentioned Incredibly Frustrating, so much so they detract from my ability to enjoy the game.

To adress your points Directly:
1) It is blatantly obvious this is a survival game from sheer fact that it has Energy and Hunger Mechanics. And the Curse too. And believe it or not, I think I am aware that you made it easier, I have downloaded the game a Couple times now. And I do recall it being harder. As stated in the beginning of this reply I do not believe you intended anything by it, but nearly the first thing in the response being what amounts to telling the person to - shut up, and stop being dumb and not understanding the game. Or at least that is what I thought immediately as I was reading the post. Is not a really good idea. Simply stating that the game is Intended to be Hard, would have done a far better job.

2) This is a bit of a Bias on my part. Most common use of QTE's is usually in Larger Games during Cutscenes and the like, and I abhor their usage in general, because I would like to actually Enjoy the Cutscene, instead of focusing all of my attention on a Quick Time Event. In this particular case however, this is more to do with two things. One - usually Games on this site are far from Extremely Hard, due to their nature as Porn Games, so that is an inherent expectation that just happened to clash with the seeming Developer Intent. Which would be far from the first time this happens on this Site or with Porn Games in general. Second - the way the QTE seems to be designed, and I dont think you could have at all anticipated that in any way, but clicking more than once automatically fails the QTE. Couple that with me specifically having a Faulty Mouse, and not being in a position to replace it. And you hopefully can see how that could be Extra Frustrating, especially when even if just barely but I could keep up with the timer. Of course you have already stated you intend to make them easier, I believe. Unless the QTE timings in v0.30 are already nerfed. I could suggest changing the Fail Pass conditions on the QTE to specifically the Timer on the Circles running out. So that any false input is ignored and does not stop people like me from doing them outright. One other suggestion I could give for this is maybe make the QTE timers Dynamic, based on how much Agility Stat the MC has. So that the people that chose to level it up more can have an easier time, without outright nerfing the challenge for everybody?

3) This is going to be a bit more contentious. But there is a difference between Not Holding people's hands and deliberately giving them Zero Information on how to even Begin Making Progress. Which is what I referred to originally. Out of all the Quests that I can see whenever I begin, only the Necromancer girl tells you where to go. And while I understand you may not want to straight up tell people Exactly Where to go for the others. Specifically stating that the other quests ought to be handled by Exploring the Map might go a long way. Giving the Player at least Something to Work With. Instead of Just saying "find this period". I genuinely believe it is an actual Design Flaw of the game. And this wouldnt be the first game that does it like so. This could be an entire debate in and of itself. But let me point you to the fact that tons of Actually Good Games, even give you hints to finding their Secrets, something that should be inherently hard to find, given the name Secret.

4) I am not sure what to say here. This isnt really much of a point to anything as far as I can tell. Just a general description of what can be done in the game, all of which I already saw from gameplay. The map, the girls in the Towers and their Guardian Bosses, the settlements that require you to defeat an Army in open battle.

Before I move on to the final point I would like to address something, you seemingly have not, at least not directly. Which is this part of my original post:
" Your Only Sex Partner Refusing to have Sex with you "cuz mah pussy is too loose now from doing it so many times" which means the whole game is on a Flat Timer. If you cant find more people to fuck fast enough you are done. But you have absolutely no idea for where to go for msot of it."

It might be a good idea, to have Ishet saying something early on about how if the MC keeps fucking her, she'l get loose. Perhaps a joke during an early conversation. That way, the player would at least be Put on Notice about what is for all practical intents and purposes is a Hidden Timer. Also, on a side note to this, it does not make any bloody sense. Because what about Anal? Is her being pounded into oblivion not good enough to stave of the curse? Perhaps another thing that could be addressed in-game during dialogue.



Now I hope all of the above in and of itself a good demonstration of how well or not, I understand Your game. But assuming that somebody is malicious, why else would I not understand the game and yet scold it for being bad. Just because they have not went into excruciating detail, and then bashing them for it. Is not a good idea in my Opinion.

That being said. I would like to reiterate, that I find the game appealing and interesting, and that is particularly why I have chosen to speak about it in the first place. I do hope you can continue working on it until you have fulfilled your vision to the best of your means and ability.

I'm sorry if my answer came out mean. I didn't respond that way on purpose, I was just in a bad mood, and you got the hot hand.
I'm already pretty pissed off that I and my game are being mixed with shit.

Maybe people are pissed at some elements in the game, but someone likes these elements, I can not please everyone.

1) The game was originally meant to be very complex.
When I designed it I knew that many people might not like it because of the hardcore survival mechanics.
But I wanted to make a game that wasn't like other porn games and overall it worked!

2) Yes QTE can piss many people off, but I added it to diversify the gameplay.
Idea with the QTE dependent on the dexterity of the MC I like, I'll think about it.

3) Originally it was planned that in this game you will be on their own, and the quest will only be "Get rid of the curse.
And then I reconsidered this point and thought that it wouldn't hurt to add hints and made them in the form of additional quests.
But they had to be done so that they just look like a hint or a clue to something that you need to do and what you need to find.
You may not like this approach, but it was intended from the beginning and it was done intentionally, so that players would explore the world.
I have no plans to change anything about the quest system.

Oh... I purposely skipped this point because I did not want to describe it.
In update 0.18 was introduced this system has sex with girls, was even added to the scale of how much you can have sex with a girl.
Then I removed the scale, but the system itself I left.
The essence of the system is that girls have such a parameter as "Vagina Wear and Tear", it may look strange,
but this was done intentionally, so that you don't have sex with the same girl many times in a row and look for new girls.
You can even see it, the more wear and tear, the slower the scale goes up before the MC can cum.
There are 4 stages of vagina condition for girls (Virgin, Good, Normal, Bad).
If the vagina condition is not "Virgin" then, every 30 days the vagina condition of the girls will improve, but only to the "Good" state.
When the condition is "Bad" no girl will have sex with the MC.

Hmmm... I'll try to add Ishet's phrase with a hint that if the MC will often have sex with her then she will need time to recover.

Anal sex in the game will not and was not even planned, maybe someone likes it but not me, I do not even want to draw it.
Although I have a subscription on Patreon, which allows you to offer your ideas and fetishes to implement, but these people were not found.

I will take into account some of the nuances described by you and make small changes in the game.
But all I planned for this game, I have implemented and now the game is going to its finale.
So there won't be any more global changes and in a couple of months I will finish the game.
I have a huge number of ideas which I want to implement, but not in the framework of one game Cursed Overlord.

P.S. I apologize in advance if I understood something or wrote something wrong. English is not my first language.

 

[Sin423555 e 34]

Why I cant use lava sword

 

[Daiji]

Why I cant use lava sword

To use the lava sword you need to upgrade your strength to 6+

 

[Denchik12312]

Why I cant use lava sword

To use the lava sword you need to upgrade your strength to 6+

and if u up another 6 point in strength u may take lava blade in both hands

 

[Nalsuloth]

I'm sorry if my answer came out mean. I didn't respond that way on purpose, I was just in a bad mood, and you got the hot hand.
I'm already pretty pissed off that I and my game are being mixed with shit.

Maybe people are pissed at some elements in the game, but someone likes these elements, I can not please everyone.

1) The game was originally meant to be very complex.
When I designed it I knew that many people might not like it because of the hardcore survival mechanics.
But I wanted to make a game that wasn't like other porn games and overall it worked!

2) Yes QTE can piss many people off, but I added it to diversify the gameplay.
Idea with the QTE dependent on the dexterity of the MC I like, I'll think about it.

3) Originally it was planned that in this game you will be on their own, and the quest will only be "Get rid of the curse.
And then I reconsidered this point and thought that it wouldn't hurt to add hints and made them in the form of additional quests.
But they had to be done so that they just look like a hint or a clue to something that you need to do and what you need to find.
You may not like this approach, but it was intended from the beginning and it was done intentionally, so that players would explore the world.
I have no plans to change anything about the quest system.

Oh... I purposely skipped this point because I did not want to describe it.
In update 0.18 was introduced this system has sex with girls, was even added to the scale of how much you can have sex with a girl.
Then I removed the scale, but the system itself I left.
The essence of the system is that girls have such a parameter as "Vagina Wear and Tear", it may look strange,
but this was done intentionally, so that you don't have sex with the same girl many times in a row and look for new girls.
You can even see it, the more wear and tear, the slower the scale goes up before the MC can cum.
There are 4 stages of vagina condition for girls (Virgin, Good, Normal, Bad).
If the vagina condition is not "Virgin" then, every 30 days the vagina condition of the girls will improve, but only to the "Good" state.
When the condition is "Bad" no girl will have sex with the MC.

Hmmm... I'll try to add Ishet's phrase with a hint that if the MC will often have sex with her then she will need time to recover.

Anal sex in the game will not and was not even planned, maybe someone likes it but not me, I do not even want to draw it.
Although I have a subscription on Patreon, which allows you to offer your ideas and fetishes to implement, but these people were not found.

I will take into account some of the nuances described by you and make small changes in the game.
But all I planned for this game, I have implemented and now the game is going to its finale.
So there won't be any more global changes and in a couple of months I will finish the game.
I have a huge number of ideas which I want to implement, but not in the framework of one game Cursed Overlord.

P.S. I apologize in advance if I understood something or wrote something wrong. English is not my first language.

That is alright, as I wrote in my previous message, I figured this might just be another case of a Developer being Active on here, and getting Jaded by stupid bullshit some people do. I have talked to a Friend about this exchange after I made my last post, and they pointed out that I might have come off as more harsh than I intended as well. Since my original message however prefaced by me saying "I want to like this" was mostly me venting my frustration, since all the things I have mentioned happened to me more or less over the spawn of a couple hours. Having to abandon a Quest because technical issues prevent me from completing the QTE. While all along struggling to figure out where to go and what to do, it was rough but I was getting by. But then I stepped on the landmine that is the Vagina Condition. I made my post, and started again. Managed to actually unlock Sex with the Necromancer girl. So now I hope, I will be able to get by until I can grind out more resources to get the other girls as well.

I dont think you have wrote anything wrong in this response. And you have understood pretty much everything I wrote about except one thing.

3) You are saying that originally the Overlord was supposed to be entirely alone. But then you changed that and added hints in form of these Quests. And that is what I was trying to address in my last post. The way those Quests are written. Frankly as Hints they are almost useless. If you are completely oblivious, sure they will let you know that you need to "find a person that will sell equipment and food" or "find a doctor so if you get hurt you can be healed". But honestly this particular information is self evident to a degree from there being Building Slots in the "Castle" particularly one for the Hospital. What is not Self Evident however, is the Expectation that you have to just go out there and fumble around in the Open World until you bump into them. I have personally found the Doctor and the Trader. But I had absolutely no idea or inclination they would be found HOW they were found. For all I could tell at the start, either of them could have been in one of those Towers. The game generally has a bunch of this in it.

One thing I suspect, but havent tested is. The main language for the game is probably Russian, it being the only other language available. And as is frequently the case, in my experience, context or nuance that may be there originally is lost in translation. And that in turn undermines the end result. For all I know the Quests and their Dialogue provide just a little bit more information in the Russian language, that makes it just barely enough. Which, it being barely enough that is, seems to be the intent here.

But if I am wrong, oh well. I can tell you want the game to be challenging. And there is nothing wrong with that. Though personally I would prefer that the challenge is Fair, and try my best to make sure it is. Otherwise its just less or straight up No Fun.


Either way, thank you for your response and clarifications.

 

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[Xavim]

New code? In the free release

QTUnbWR6

 

[BlasKyau]

Daiji

From what I understood it's a game where you have a series of variables (energy, hunger, whatever) that decrease (over time or when you pass turn or advance, I'm not sure). I suppose that if any of the variables reaches 0 the MC dies or suffers some consequence. There is also a variable that is the curse that I suppose will also vary and that at some point it will kill the MC. I would be interested to know how the variables decrease (if with real time or every time you click).

On the other hand, I don't play more than one ending, so for me, the first time the MC dies the game is over forever, so I prefer to know how difficult the game is before I decide to try it.

I don't like the minigames, so I'd rather know if it's something important or if you can finish the game without doing them.

 

[Daiji]

Daiji

From what I understood it's a game where you have a series of variables (energy, hunger, whatever) that decrease (over time or when you pass turn or advance, I'm not sure). I suppose that if any of the variables reaches 0 the MC dies or suffers some consequence. There is also a variable that is the curse that I suppose will also vary and that at some point it will kill the MC. I would be interested to know how the variables decrease (if with real time or every time you click).

On the other hand, I don't play more than one ending, so for me, the first time the MC dies the game is over forever, so I prefer to know how difficult the game is before I decide to try it.

I don't like the minigames, so I'd rather know if it's something important or if you can finish the game without doing them.

The game is really difficult, if you won't keep track of all stats and resources or try to fight against stronger opponents then mc surely dies.
Hunger and energy are consumed in real time and from your actions in the game. When curse activates mc's health is also consumed in real time.

The game has a few mini-games tied to the QTE, some of them will be cruicial, if you do not pass them then mc will die.

 

[BlasKyau]

The game is really difficult, if you won't keep track of all stats and resources or try to fight against stronger opponents then mc surely dies.
Hunger and energy are consumed in real time and from your actions in the game. When curse activates mc's health is also consumed in real time.

The game has a few mini-games tied to the QTE, some of them will be cruicial, if you do not pass them then mc will die.

Ok, thanks for the reply.

I think I'm going to pass on trying the game. The story sounds good, but I don't like survival games where the variables decrease over time (unless it's like the SIMS, where they feed themselves when they're hungry, pee when they feel like it, and sleep when they're tired without the player having to remind them). Posibly if the variables instead of over time went down when you did something (run, jump, do a handstand, whatever) I would have tried it.

But the minigames thing is another problem for me. Quite simply, if the option to wait until the time is over means the death of the MC, I don't like the minigame (that's the way I get past minigames that don't consist of tapping once on a spot on the screen and activating the autocomplete option).

I guess the game isn't for me.

 

[Ajax1298]

My screen is pink I think I was poisoned how do I cure it

 

[Daiji]

My screen is pink I think I was poisoned how do I cure it

Apparently you missed the prologue, which explains what to do in such situations.

 

[Xavim]

My screen is pink I think I was poisoned how do I cure it

Since the game dev is a bit of an ass and not really helping you - The pink screen fix is having sex with someone. This is at the very end of the prologue which is not the best of ideas to have if the prologue can be skipped and no journal or notes to review for things like this.

 

[drakefyre27]

Honestly, while I can deal with the survival aspects of the game, and the game being hard... the one thing I can't stand in this game is the QTE events. Normally they have good implementation... but in this game it seems more like a strand of luck than anything.

You have about 200ms to click where it tells you to, sometimes without any preparation (like the thing that kills the blacksmith girl)... and even then, the game engine will sometimes (for me, felt like 90% of the time) not register it, or in time. I've never legit cleared the QTE's, having had to rely on debugging (or cheating per se) to clear them and also give it some stress testing.

Even with debugging mode on... I still had an hard time with them because of the game engine not registering my inputs in time. I would've easily died 20-30 times by the time I fought the musket girl, and the boxing girl... can't remember the names...

Also played around the settings see if that changed anything in regards to QTE. No dice.

So my conclusion is... it's broken, or severely flawed. Can't tell someone to "get gud" at something that's broken tbh.

I would've conducted more tests, but I've already wasted too much time on this game trying to debug it and not even enjoying a second of it. Sorry.

 

[fgh24]

couldnt you change the ntr like scenes so that you dont get trapped you just fight it if you win the fight no ntr if you lose ntr

 

[Ajax1298]

Since the game dev is a bit of an ass and not really helping you - The pink screen fix is having sex with someone. This is at the very end of the prologue which is not the best of ideas to have if the prologue can be skipped and no journal or notes to review for things like this.

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Thanks I played the prologue but I expected the curse to be red or a different color so it went over my head

 

[TaoKirito]

Hey guys can you update to v0.75 please

 

[Morzan777]

Greetings!
I'm little bit lost in this game without some clear mark on the map.
Like when I need to find the blacksmith daughter.
English is not my native laguage, but I understand, I need to find the ,,spring, or well" where she is lost. But I can't see any, on the map. Okay maybe this was my problem. I comb the desert area, but I find nothing.

Soo if anyone know where can I find that girl, please help me

The other question, how can I got prisoner?
I already conquer the first village, but I only got tax from there.

 

[Denchik12312]

Greetings!
I'm little bit lost in this game without some clear mark on the map.
Like when I need to find the blacksmith daughter.
English is not my native laguage, but I understand, I need to find the ,,spring, or well" where she is lost. But I can't see any, on the map. Okay maybe this was my problem. I comb the desert area, but I find nothing.

Soo if anyone know where can I find that girl, please help me

The other question, how can I got prisoner?
I already conquer the first village, but I only got tax from there.

the blacksmith's daughter is here

prisoners appear after you capture all villages on this map

 

[AiceQube]

Need to know how to get mushrooms for the skeleton in the tower I've been searching everywhere but I can't find graveyard(playing on mobile) also I found a glitch even when you have 12 strength you can't dual wield the lava sword.. the club is stuck on my right hand and unremovable..