Mod Others Completed Dai Sengoku Rance [Fan Translation][2025-02-25]

winterwisp

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Feb 13, 2022
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Thank you for doing this, I've been having fun, hopefully author comes back and continues the Zeth part.


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Ah, her. The useless commander with next to no use. In a very hard nutshell, she's usable. But here's the thing. You've probably carried your whole roster from part 1 to part 2 and most of them are either powerful commanders or Omachi, or both. This woman has no use other than being a paper cannon. Paper, not glass. She kills her own unit in exchange for dealing as much damage as possible. She can't be sacrificed to combination until El gives you the right to merge important commanders. Yeah, she's flagged as an important character. Though there's another way. Sell her in the brothel event.
And the reason you lose a tactician in exchange for her is because you've got 30 commanders in your roster when she joined. When a new unit joins and you've got no slot left, the game either kills your most recent commander recruited or the unimportant one.
 

1tomadeira

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May 25, 2017
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Ah, her. The useless commander with next to no use. In a very hard nutshell, she's usable. But here's the thing. You've probably carried your whole roster from part 1 to part 2 and most of them are either powerful commanders or Omachi, or both. This woman has no use other than being a paper cannon. Paper, not glass. She kills her own unit in exchange for dealing as much damage as possible. She can't be sacrificed to combination until El gives you the right to merge important commanders. Yeah, she's flagged as an important character. Though there's another way. Sell her in the brothel event.
And the reason you lose a tactician in exchange for her is because you've got 30 commanders in your roster when she joined. When a new unit joins and you've got no slot left, the game either kills your most recent commander recruited or the unimportant one.
I wish at least that you had an option to accept or refuse her though. If you end Ran's route with 30 commanders for example, the first character on the list (usually Ranmaru) will be killed. Given that the game has a limitation of 30 commanders, it would be nice to have that, specially because the save file is usually before the main fight.

Ran's Route fight isn't that hard, but is still a bit annoying to need to replay and fire the commander you want the list.

I know I'm asking too much, and I don't want to feel like a beggar to the modder, but if the game continues with that limitation of 30 commanders (which I understand it's hard to change) an option to decide or at least an warning would be nice. It gives a sour taste specially if it was a strong and/or cleared character dying. After all, that even happens before the option to mix characters.
 

ZombehGuy

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Feb 2, 2025
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Ah, her. The useless commander with next to no use. In a very hard nutshell, she's usable. But here's the thing. You've probably carried your whole roster from part 1 to part 2 and most of them are either powerful commanders or Omachi, or both. This woman has no use other than being a paper cannon. Paper, not glass. She kills her own unit in exchange for dealing as much damage as possible. She can't be sacrificed to combination until El gives you the right to merge important commanders. Yeah, she's flagged as an important character. Though there's another way. Sell her in the brothel event.
And the reason you lose a tactician in exchange for her is because you've got 30 commanders in your roster when she joined. When a new unit joins and you've got no slot left, the game either kills your most recent commander recruited or the unimportant one.

Thanks so much but damn it, I even used some stat book1's on her. Thank god the unit she replaced was just Gracia. Since she was from Rance6 and an important unit, I wonder if she was supposed to play a part in the Zeth area. Anyway, to the 2nd list she goes.
 

winterwisp

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Feb 13, 2022
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I believe author's motive was the penalty for stalling so much in part 1 so you could have op commanders in part 2
tbf, it kind of make senses, but points from entering part 2 already got deducted for how long you've stayed in part 1. Adding that woman is just overkill of a punishment and at the same time, not that annoying. I mean, with how you play, it's easy to dispose of her and despite calling her crap, she's usable.
Oh right, about combinations. The wiki did listed it already, but imma list things here for the ease of it.
Using Masamune or Himiko (miko union generic unit but weirdly strong) as the merged unit raise the merger unit's action count to 6.
Merging Kasumi and Maria gives Maria's unit +3 speed
Merging Ai with Kenshin buffs Kenshin's unit's all stats (including action count) by 1.
Katsuko and Torako (Uesugi generic commanders) does the same thing as Masamune and Himiko, but only 5, not 6.
Kanami and Suzume, action count becomes 6.
merging 2 of the four Takeda units and you get Extreme Furinkazan.
Edit: Right, I forgot. Merging Choushin Ashikaga and Akihime will cost you 5 national power, as in, you will lose 5 national power.
 
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Sgrodolo

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Sep 1, 2017
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Game is good, the new mechanics are interesting and the writing is decent. Too bad about the lack of new cg
 

Pb2020

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Jul 27, 2020
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Is there any way to save patton and his buddies without ally with them? I'm on War with all Helman route? Seeing them dead really sad. And 2nd Army only have 10 slots? Is there any way to make it lager??
 

zargal

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Aug 5, 2018
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Is there any way to save patton and his buddies without ally with them? I'm on War with all Helman route? Seeing them dead really sad. And 2nd Army only have 10 slots? Is there any way to make it lager??
Yep, use Rance in the last battle against them and they'll join you. I agree that their death is sad (albeit well written), but I have a hunch that saving them will block Rolex and Aristotle (and maybe Sheila?) I'll confirm after my new run where I fight all Helman factions but don't save them.
 

winterwisp

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Feb 13, 2022
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Yep, use Rance in the last battle against them and they'll join you. I agree that their death is sad (albeit well written), but I have a hunch that saving them will block Rolex and Aristotle (and maybe Sheila?) I'll confirm after my new run where I fight all Helman factions but don't save them.
It probably does block Sheila, though I dunno about the other two.
 

Pb2020

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is there any way possible to get mor slots than 10 in 2nd Army. There are a lot of cool characters in Rance series.
How to get Rick and the oldman commander of black army?
I hope game editor will fix the character sprites. Some too small like blue hair girl (Class Warrior) who can be captured in battle or Demand Surrender from Rance and a lot chars from Helman army.
 

winterwisp

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Feb 13, 2022
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is there any way possible to get mor slots than 10 in 2nd Army. There are a lot of cool characters in Rance series.
How to get Rick and the oldman commander of black army?
I hope game editor will fix the character sprites. Some too small like blue hair girl (Class Warrior) who can be captured in battle or Demand Surrender from Rance and a lot chars from Helman army.
Lelyukov can be captured and recruited if you breakthrough Fort A or B without Minerva's info. Yeah, the usual 2 vs 6 army fight. Rick can be captured if you see him in another country's force. And so are the other Leazas's generals, probably. There's no way you can increase 2nd army slots pass 10.
 

zargal

Newbie
Aug 5, 2018
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is there any way possible to get mor slots than 10 in 2nd Army. There are a lot of cool characters in Rance series.
How to get Rick and the oldman commander of black army?
I hope game editor will fix the character sprites. Some too small like blue hair girl (Class Warrior) who can be captured in battle or Demand Surrender from Rance and a lot chars from Helman army.
Lelyukov can be captured and recruited if you breakthrough Fort A or B without Minerva's info. Yeah, the usual 2 vs 6 army fight. Rick can be captured if you see him in another country's force. And so are the other Leazas's generals, probably. There's no way you can increase 2nd army slots pass 10.
Just to be clear, I've found Lelyukov can be captured as long as you don't see Minerva's event regarding the forts. So you can win the 2v6 or go through Shangri-La, which would be my recommendation.
Rick can be obtained by allying with Leazas straight away, or, as WW said, by defeating Leazas then finding Rick on another country's roster. Anecdotally, the latter has a low chance however. Also be aware that to clear Rick, you need Kenshin from Part 1.
 
Aug 14, 2020
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Is it even possible to play on the last difficulty? There is just not enough resources to replenish armies, not enough resources to combine, not enough everything (by turn 16-18). And waiting out isn't an option since you kinda need to rush to subdue Lei. (I'm playing without Leazas aid but with 200 score)