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Yeah just to help clarify it.
NTR is only Netorare which means "To be taken from" (so MC being stolen from in any way basically, relationship status and other details don't actually matter, as long as MC is being taken from somehow).
Netori, is well just Netori, meaning "To take" the literal reverse situation wise of who is stealing and being stolen from. As far as tagging goes, this one is just cheating with netori listed under genre (despite not all netori being cheating).
There is also reverse-NTR where MC is the one being stolen.
As far as running into problems are concerned you will really only have issue if you add NTR into the game, avoidable or not, you will lose players simply because it is that hated, and also in part to a lot of "optional NTR" games still having the vibe of it everywhere to where making it "optional" is kinda pointless.
So just be aware of that, my suggestion, don't add it if your reason is because someone asked.
Only add NTR if you want to, and are willing to sacrifice a decent amount of potential players and possibly some existing players. (same logic sorta applies to sharing and swinging, but not as heavily).
Again though, Netori is far game, people don't care if that is in there, some will rather not, but they don't care if it is an option.
P.s. if you are going to add NTR, make it abundantly clear right now, like literally right now, edit main thread and write that game will have NTR, whether on main thread, or under dev notes. And of course, add whether or not it is avoidable (like truly avoidable, as in doesn't canonically happen in the slightest, if made the choice to avoid)
If no NTR at all... then just write a little note under dev notes.
But clarify it now, so you piss of the least amount of people (and make them unjustified, if there are some that are pissed), the longer you leave it, the more potential there is for it to blow up in your face, with angry people that feel deceived (even if avoidable).
You want goodwill, not a bad rep, especially if your next game doesn't have NTR (assuming this one does, if this one doesn't then this is a moot point.).
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Thanks for your advice, I'll add it when EP2 releases, of course the MC isn't an extremist who wants to share his girl, but he might not be in control of everything either.
The aim of the game is definitely not focused on NTR but I'm not afraid to add it so I'm okay with some bad feedback following.
I have experienced it in real life so I understand it well, it's just a part of life that you just learn and let go, and even if it's in the game the player can still avoid it, it's not an option I wish they had picked But I had to add it because it was necessary to complete the gameplay of this game.
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I get that, just be prepared to lose some audience simply because it is in the game.
Given the sheer amount of games, is just easier to avoid the tag altogether and not bother with optional these days anyway.
So you will mostly be getting ntr-fans, people that don't care, and the non-ntr players that don't mind if they can easily avoid it completely (I mean completely though).
But you will miss out on a lot of the casual players that like more vanilla stuff. (which can be a pretty decent chunk).
Although I would advise you get the thread updated where there is a note somewhere that NTR will be added. so people know now rather than later.
Also request the dev tag from a mod or something.
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Regarding the game that is available for download in the first page of the thread is not the version to be used in the next chapter, it's just the game I made for patreon members to update the game progress , the standard version is still 1C (not 1D, which will still be edited in many parts)
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I'll stick with it when that content arrives, this isn't an NTR game and the main story is mostly romance, but I don't want to modify it to differ from the original storyline.
The game is still not popular at all so I think it's a great opportunity to make it the way it should be.
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I take that to mean you are keeping NTR, if so get a dev note added that there will be NTR and whether or not it is avoidable. Don't wait, tell people now, otherwise they will hate you for it when it surprises them later, and when I say them I mean your target audience being romance lovers (who typically hate NTR, and avoid NTR games even if it is avoidable... so kinda hindering your growth with that ngl). They hate to be decieved in playing what they think will be a romance game only to have NTR pop up (even if optional), with no warning. (not everyone reads comments, most read the genre, and dev notes and that about it).
I will (or have already when you read this) DM you a more detailed explanation and the logistics of it. Obviously though still do what you really want to do, if you really have to, then do it. But be transparent and give plenty of warning.
So get NTR as a future tag (and whether or not it will be optional) put somewhere on the thread. Whether it be under genre as a future tag, or under dev notes. If under dev notes you can go into detail about how minor it is or w/e (although I wouldn't bother with this part if it is unavoidable, no amount of convincing will make people who hate it and want to avoid it, play your game simply because there is good romance around it, would be a "one rotten apple spoils the whole bunch" case. Only people who don't care about NTR or like it would put up with that.)
That is assuming i understood you correctly that your game will have NTR, (where the MC is stolen from, just to make sure no confusion there).
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Well a shame the dev is a cuck. Guess we will see if he ever realizes the reason his game wont grow will be the NTR cuckshit.
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To be completely honest though, that is trading one limit for another. Sure you remove limit on what you can do with the story, but in return you limit who will be willing to play the game. (trading demographic for a genre basically).
While having a large scope can be good, it can also be detrimental. You don't want to put too much in, especially with hardcore conflicts.
One possible solution though, is to go as far as creating two separate games for such conflicts. although at that point, why not just make a different story for the other. (since alt routes can be completely different stories in of themselves).
So might be something to think about, putting those more controversial ideas, into their own story, which doesn't have the happier routes, and is more dedicated to the people that like those genres. (some devs have done this, and go as far as two have two separate patreon accounts one for NTR stuff one for vanilla, but just be sure to truly keep them separate... like not even fan requested NTR images or scenes on the non-ntr one *looks at incenton* "YES I AM LOOKING AT YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE DONE" <poor attempt at humor... sorry not sorry.)
why not ntr?i think its good
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I have no plans to create NTR game from the beginning, but I don't deny that the game has a tendency to harass or rape female characters by NPCs.
It's Rape which is definitely not NTR, and I'm going to warn players when I have created that scene, But it's just a short scene for wrong choices, it's just a punishment for players who decide to do something extreme, so don't expect too much from that scene.
I understand it will make a huge impact for vanilla players but it will also cause problems for me as in the future I won't be able to make the game in my original style, So I'll have to make it clear in the next ep.
Oooh Yessss. NNNTTRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm really sorry, if there is a chance I will hire an expert to translate it again in the future
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Will you allow players to go a more evil forced route? I think there's a lot of people that you could appeal to with that, even if it is in scenarios that lead to dead ends. If R*** is included but just limited to NPCs that would be kinda disappointing :/
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You are using the japanese definition of the term which is used in the world outside.
But this site, F95 has tagging rules which uses its own custom definitions. And it commonly uses japanese terms but with different definitions.
Definitions are here
https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2021-05-02.10394/
Since intent (designed to cause jealously) is so hard to determine, it is basically focused on the second part of "romantic interest involved with someone other than MC".NTR @ F95 tagging rules said:
So when people talk about terms in F95 they use the site tagging terms.
If someone rapes your waifu, this is NTR on F95 even though it is technically not part of the original japanese term.
Also Netori, where the MC is a bull who steals other men's wifes or girlfriends is NOT tagged as NTR on F95.
Instead it is tagged as [cheating] tag