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Is there a GB Scene in CH3 or 4? I thought i saw a picture of a scene in the game. Unless i am mistaken?
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we are absolute NOT a fan of GB - also we avoid any dick scene other than MC. We've learned it the hard way and had to deal with a lot of BS and toxicity over here and on our discord because of Martin.
GB would be even worse, so we will definitively NOT - absolutely NOT - do ANY GB (multiple men on 1 woman).
Even sharing/swapping (2 vs 2) is more or less off-table thanks to the reaction of our supporter.
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exception are the fantasy scenes, of course
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And just to be clear:
we lost WAY more supporter because of NTR scenes, or sharing scenes with Martin than the other way around.
It shows that NTR lovers and/or GB lovers are really loud, but NOT big in numbers as supporters - so who cares?
At the end it's all about business.
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From over 4k Patreons when DmD started 7 years ago, with the promise of a variety of kinks to a Patreon count of just over 2k today (check Graphtreon for the numbers)
Same for the Subscribestar numbers- from 2948 back in June 2020 to 1524 today (Check post 47632 on the DmD forum for ss numbers)
So why lie about the reason you are losing numbers when the reality really shows that you lost thousands of subscribers after you went full on vanilla
Same for the Subscribestar numbers- from 2948 back in June 2020 to 1524 today (Check post 47632 on the DmD forum for ss numbers)
So why lie about the reason you are losing numbers when the reality really shows that you lost thousands of subscribers after you went full on vanilla
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years ago there were way less developers creating games and today the subscriber are spread over more developers, which some are way better than us. That's another reason for having less members right now.
But of course it's YOU (being banned with 5 accounts on discord long time ago for being toxic and causing ruckus) To step in and blabber out the same BS you do since years. I even wondered why it took you so long this time to step in.
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Actually it's mostly because of people like YOU why we give a BS about what certain people want or think.
Also, let's just pretend for a brief second that you are right. Given your own "facts", we lost NEARLY 50% on both platforms because of "pure vanilla" - that also means we would have lost OVER 50% by going non-vanilla. You can't do both. So even IF you would be right, which you aren't, it has been the better choice to stay vanilla.
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Hot take!
I said it sometime ago. The NTR crowd is not that small when you include the closet NTR lovers. We're all here for the fap at the end of the day and this game has decent fap scenes. The main thing that took this down was the "groomer" vibe between the D and D. As time progressed, it felt more and more creepy. The Lolis also didn't make the game any better. Awesomely written side characters but they look like they're in elementary school- No thanks!
If Mr. Dots created a modern version of an NTR game with a plot like Hero Boy Kun or SWO, it would blow up overnight. Of course Vanilla elitists will troll and review bomb but they'd be in the minority.
Lastly, I'm Apolitical, but I'll just pose a question. If Martin was the MC's white friend instead of black, would there been as much of an uproar?
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I said it sometime ago. The NTR crowd is not that small when you include the closet NTR lovers. We're all here for the fap at the end of the day and this game has decent fap scenes. The main thing that took this down was the "groomer" vibe between the D and D. As time progressed, it felt more and more creepy. The Lolis also didn't make the game any better. Awesomely written side characters but they look like they're in elementary school- No thanks!
If Mr. Dots created a modern version of an NTR game with a plot like Hero Boy Kun or SWO, it would blow up overnight. Of course Vanilla elitists will troll and review bomb but they'd be in the minority.
Lastly, I'm Apolitical, but I'll just pose a question. If Martin was the MC's white friend instead of black, would there been as much of an uproar?
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yes - it would.
Just read through the early Thief Of Hearts thread, where we had a NON-CANON scene with Megan and her "white" driver (NOT MC at that point), which was absolutely avoidable and had nothing to do with the actual story. Neither is Megan a full love interest, but just a side character. Nonetheless the uproar was hefty, and we had to re-write that scene and exchange the renders into MC being the driver.
For some reason MrDots current supporter don't accept any dick aside MC's - no matter how it's written.
I’m not sure the reason for losing supporters is NTR content. In fact, NTR content is avoidable and is too little to be blamed for this.
According to me there are other reasons: one of them is the ban from Patreon, and the second is the creating of the other games, which made the time of creating DMD much longer.
For example, I was a supporter in Patreon, after that in Subscribestar, unfortunately I like DMD (all the content) a lot, little less Melody, just a little SL and I don’t like ToH. Of course, I support DMD content when it is created and will keep supporting it in future if there is such.
So, I’m not sure about GB and NTR, according to me if you like the story and the main idea, you would like to support the game. DMD is a very large and complex game. It is 4 parts, each of them was developed a lot of time. Although in the end things happened very fast. At last, I like every part of it, but I don’t think the reason for losing supporters is because of the NTR content or any other. Just the game came to its end.
I’m really looking forward to new things made by MrDot and the team. And I hope that there will be more special DMD content GB, NTR and what you as creators can imagine
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If you were on SubStar and more importantly the Fan Discord you would have seen all the evidence that a great loss was at first the PatrI’m not sure the reason for losing supporters is NTR content. In fact, NTR content is avoidable and is too little to be blamed for this.
According to me there are other reasons: one of them is the ban from Patreon, and the second is the creating of the other games, which made the time of creating DMD much longer.
For example, I was a supporter in Patreon, after that in Subscribestar, unfortunately I like DMD (all the content) a lot, little less Melody, just a little SL and I don’t like ToH. Of course, I support DMD content when it is created and will keep supporting it in future if there is such.
So, I’m not sure about GB and NTR, according to me if you like the story and the main idea, you would like to support the game. DMD is a very large and complex game. It is 4 parts, each of them was developed a lot of time. Although in the end things happened very fast. At last, I like every part of it, but I don’t think the reason for losing supporters is because of the NTR content or any other. Just the game came to its end.
I’m really looking forward to new things made by MrDot and the team. And I hope that there will be more special DMD content GB, NTR and what you as creators can imagine
on ban fucking over numerous popular incest VNsBut the next big hoopla was the sharing bullshit (NOT NTR but lots and lots of people didn't like it or considered it NTR anyway)
If things are completely avoidable and don't simply happen off screen hidden that is not bad BUT it still takes dev time away from the more widely loved content.
Bottom Line - Martin and Ryan cost us a 4some scene. PERIOD. It happened that way because dev time is limited. A lot of us (myself included) hated that scenes for a very small group cost us a hot fkn 4some of Jen, Elena, and Dee with Father. And we made it known (myself included) that it pissed us off. And we vastly outnumbered the people who love cuck scenes. Again Discord was home to much more of this than anywhere else so maybe you never made it there. But to think you somehow know better than Hyperserver or worse better than MrDots himself about what happened and why Dots refuses to do any future sharing, is (how to say this kindly) as wrong as possible.
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