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Dustellar

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Daval testing the waters is a good theory, imagine him saving this last page for issue 10, he would have no time to change it for issue 11 in case people didn't like it, but now he has months to change everything and claim that "it was never part of the plan".

I insist, I agree with him about a few things, it was time to add something new, because Lana not accepting the relationship was one of the main focus of the comic but it lasted too long, the problem here is that the secret sex was another important part of it, Daval killed both in one page, should have done "Lana finally accepts the relationship/Sofia and Sharon become more suspicious of them > some issues of Lana and Daniel embracing in passionate sex >>>>> Sofia or Sharon find out", but instead did "Lana finally accepts the relationship/Sofía find out > a single issue of Lana and Daniel embracing in passionate sex > continuation of the cliffhanger"
 

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Oct 02, 2024 06:29 am

ENDING OPTIONS AND MORE
On id8 and id9 I did little sex scenes. Lana and daniel in the room of daniel sex scene in the car, martha, in the locker rooms, when they return to the house of martha Lana and daniel fuck in the bathroom again.

the ending where "sofia discovered the secret" I had it planned for id8 and thus finish the Martha's house arc, but I delayed it to add more sex scenes until id9.

I had some options to finish id9
1) lana tells Daniel that she wants to fuck with him and in ID10 start with a long sex scene where at the end of the chapter sofia would discover her secret.

2) that at the end of id9 sofia discovered the secret to creating expectation, but that in id10 she started with a long sex scene showing the moments before Sofia comes.

Any of the alternatives sofia would discover the secret and that would start a stage where Daniel and Lana solve that problem together. that's my intention. I'm not going to add Sofia to the relationship, Sofia is not going to blackmail them for sex. I won't create orgies, Lana won't fuck Uncle Peter NO! NO! NO! none of that will happen and I have to explain that because some subs think I will do all those things.

Sofia will not start to be important to the plot, in fact she will not appear much more. that was my idea but some subs think that now Sofia will be the new protagonist.

This is my comic and I know it. also I want to remember that this comic has been going on for 2 years and I had to add something to the plot or lana and daniel would continue to secretly fuck together until id56. that would be boring.

ID10 will be an excellent chapter and its first update will be on the 5th. at the end of the chapter, the arch of Martha's house will be finished. ID11 will be interesting.



[Damage control mode activated :ROFLMAO: ,yesterday upload ATM has 145 comments ]
Excellent work
 

SoldierBoyRED

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Well then only the secret is revealed but the relationship remains monogamous between Daniel and Lana. In addition to seeing the way they come out. Daval is the best at saving the game and he doesn't even come in at half time.
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''Single Event'' step. Upon cancellation, very quickly. Apparently the tide takes you fast. Even in less than two days.
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Skiltllet

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I think that, as Daval mentioned, he simply made a small effort to see the community's reaction and not make the same mistake as SN, and when things exploded in his face he went out to try to remedy everything so that nothing would happen... I didn't. I blame his wallet was in danger. I wouldn't risk ID's good remuneration for something so trivial either, and neither would Daval.
 

8TB

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Oct 02, 2024 06:29 am

ENDING OPTIONS AND MORE
On id8 and id9 I did little sex scenes. Lana and daniel in the room of daniel sex scene in the car, martha, in the locker rooms, when they return to the house of martha Lana and daniel fuck in the bathroom again.

the ending where "sofia discovered the secret" I had it planned for id8 and thus finish the Martha's house arc, but I delayed it to add more sex scenes until id9.

I had some options to finish id9
1) lana tells Daniel that she wants to fuck with him and in ID10 start with a long sex scene where at the end of the chapter sofia would discover her secret.

2) that at the end of id9 sofia discovered the secret to creating expectation, but that in id10 she started with a long sex scene showing the moments before Sofia comes.

Any of the alternatives sofia would discover the secret and that would start a stage where Daniel and Lana solve that problem together. that's my intention. I'm not going to add Sofia to the relationship, Sofia is not going to blackmail them for sex. I won't create orgies, Lana won't fuck Uncle Peter NO! NO! NO! none of that will happen and I have to explain that because some subs think I will do all those things.

Sofia will not start to be important to the plot, in fact she will not appear much more. that was my idea but some subs think that now Sofia will be the new protagonist.

This is my comic and I know it. also I want to remember that this comic has been going on for 2 years and I had to add something to the plot or lana and daniel would continue to secretly fuck together until id56. that would be boring.

ID10 will be an excellent chapter and its first update will be on the 5th. at the end of the chapter, the arch of Martha's house will be finished. ID11 will be interesting.



[Damage control mode activated :ROFLMAO: ,yesterday upload ATM has 145 comments ]
I get the impression that a part of it is damage control, and the other part of it is sincere. I particularly liked it when he stated, "this is my comic and I know it." And that is indisputable. Whatever criticisms I have of how ID9 ended, Daval is right: it is HIS comic, and NO ONE KNOWS IT BETTER THAN HE DOES. Some of the criticisms tend to be based on hyperemotional responses, questioning Daval's character and integrity, whereas others I've seen are soundly based on the plot--i.e. criticisms of flashbacks, Sofia's rushed discovery, etc. And if Daval states his intentions with this comic is as he described, then I think there's no issue taking him at his word.

But I have a bias. I've already admitted that it would be my preference for the sexual interactions in Immoral Desires to remain primarily between Lana and Daniel, Lana's interactions with Alex notwithstanding. And I must also admit that Daval's prospects for ID10 at least suit my preferences, even if it's unfortunately a result of a kowtow. I don't envy Daval. It's clear to me, and again I'm assuming this, that Daval prefers the kinky stuff. If it were up to him, and I'm guessing, ID, MT, and SN would be like his other VIP comics. But as a content creator who commercializes his product, it's always incumbent upon him to find a balance between what he likes, and what his target audience prefers. So (Cue the track) "only time will tell..."
 

8TB

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ID new pages??
Well, there are these (p131-p133):

131.jpg 132.jpg 133.jpg

I didn't translate these, but I did reword (not change) just a little bit of the dialogues so that they read better. I also had to re-typset it because whoever did the original typsetting, even if it was Daval himself, clearly had an issue with the font-kerning. I did however tinker with the colors again. I tend to prefer colors that "pop," and the images typically tend to have dull and bland colors. So, here they are.
 

Skiltllet

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Well, there are these (p131-p133):

View attachment 4092298 View attachment 4092299 View attachment 4092300

I didn't translate these, but I did reword (not change) just a little bit of the dialogues so that they read better. I also had to re-typset it because whoever did the original typsetting, even if it was Daval himself, clearly had an issue with the font-kerning. I did however tinker with the colors again. I tend to prefer colors that "pop," and the images typically tend to have dull and bland colors. So, here they are.
I love Daniel's personality, he never gives up on Lana, even though she uses any trick, he knows her better than anyone. But with what he said to him: ''AND WHAT WILL YOU DO? GO OUT TO THE TERRACE AND HAVE A DRINK WITH OTHERS? MY COCK IS ALWAYS STIFF FOR YOU, MOM. AND DEEP DOWN YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY WANT.'' Simply magnificent, Daniel loves playing with Lana and as we saw Lana can't resist for long.

Also, from what we've seen in the updates, Daniel may not fuck Sofia, I don't know, time will tell since Daval said that maybe it's just time for someone to find out. Also, apparently, most of his paying members did not like the decision, which is why he made about 5 updates in less than 24 hours. I think Daval got into a cigar for nothing. Because what he thought would fill his wallet almost left it empty:LOL:. And in the end monogamy won.
 
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Dustellar

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There are a lot of subscribers against it, but there are also a decent amount of subscribers who seem to like it, so we'll see what happens, the smart decision will be to listen to the majority.

In my case, as a pirate, if Daval decides to turn it into an harem comic or keep it as a monogamous one, I don't mind either, I'm happy as long there's incest taboo, Lana as the main girl and she doesn't fuck other guys (no NTR vibes! please), all that will happen in both scenarios, because Daval isn't dumb enough to separate Lana and Daniel because Sofia or Sharon or any other girl find out, if he ever decides to add other girls to the fun, it will be with Lana's consent and participation, in fact I totally expect Daval writing her as the one with the initiative for a threesome, because at this point we are sure Daniel would never betray Lana, but I can totally see Lana doing that to make her son even more happy, it would not be 100% out of character... if you ask me, if threesomes/orgies ever happen, I prefer it with Sharon or any other future family member, not with Sofia who's just Lana's friend (and clearly not a good one xD)
 
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Trile3

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Hello, New here. I'm up to date with all of Daval's work. I wanted to ask you if you know why Madness Together sometimes says "VIP"? There are 2 versions perhaps?
because all 20$ and more tier are called VIP tiers and MT is VIP tier comic. Rest of VIP comics are oneshot,only MT keept going.
 
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Davalfake

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There are a lot of subscribers against it, but there are also a decent amount of subscribers who seem to like it, so we'll see what happens, the smart decision will be to listen to the majority.

In my case, as a pirate, if Daval decides to turn it into an harem comic or keep it as a monogamous one, I don't mind either, I'm happy as long there's incest taboo, Lana as the main girl and she doesn't fuck other guys (no NTR vibes! please), all that will happen in both scenarios, because Daval isn't dumb enough to separate Lana and Daniel because Sofia or Sharon or any other girl find out, if he ever decides to add other girls to the fun, it will be with Lana's consent and participation, in fact I totally expect Daval writing her as the one with the initiative for a threesome, because at this point we are sure Daniel would never betray Lana, but I can totally see Lana doing that to make her son even more happy, it would not be 100% out of character... if you ask me, if threesomes/orgies ever happen, I prefer it with Sharon or any other future family member, not with Sofia who's just Lana's friend (and clearly not a good one xD)
You say nothing about NTR and literally what we are seeing is like NTR, but since nobody cares about Alex, they don't complain, but if someone touches Lana they get excited
 
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Skiltllet

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No opinion really matters much except Daval's. But you get to notice his own mistakes when he goes out to explain things 5 times, just to avoid being ''Lynched'' in quotes. And as I say, going from 0 to 100 is not normal, it does not go from 53 likes and 0 dislikes to 49 likes and 30 dislikes. There is a very large gap between these figures. If only I hadn't ignored the criticism like with Uncle Peter's case, but it didn't even take me a day to do my damage control. Maybe time will speak. But let's not deny the obvious.
 
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8TB

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I love Daniel's personality,
So do I. It meshes well with Lana's, who's presumably the modest one. It allows for Daniel to be the "dominant" one, as opposed to characters like David or Liam (presumably,) who may assert themselves, but are pretty subservient to the intentions of their female counterparts. I get that's part of the Oedipal fantasy--I mean women like Lana, Sarah, and Amanda are not just older, but also they're the parents--not to mention, it's not lost on me that each of these women are uncommonly taller than their ADULT SONS/NEPHEW--so why would they not express their authority? Daniel's attitude and approach, however, does a good job of subverting Lana's parental authority. He respects her authority in all matters except sex--and that appeals to not just an Oedipal fantasy, but a male power fantasy as well. I think that's part of the reason there's a cult-following for Uncle Peter. Despite his participation not embodying anything Oedipal, it does reflect a male-power fantasy. And Immoral Desires has done a good job at combining both fantasies, which I believe lends itself substantially to Immoral Desires' being Daval's most popular comic.

Also, apparently, most of his paying members did not like the decision, which is why he made about 5 updates in less than 24 hours. I think Daval got into a cigar for nothing. Because what he thought would fill his wallet almost left it empty:LOL:. And in the end monogamy won.
I'm glad you pointed this out. Because I've seen a lot of commentary on how the nearly monoamorous nature of Immoral Desires' sexual content will eventually get boring. And while I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone, I've stated before, and I believe Dustellar reiterated (and Daval cited his apprehension of this prospect,) that everything, especially sexually explicit content, will eventually get boring. The fact that Immoral Desires has gone this long, leading an artist's other works in popularity, primarily featuring the sexual relationship of just two of its main characters is actually QUITE RARE. Most 3D comics feature a harem, or NTR.

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As I understand it, the Spanish Translation is usually leaked first, and then the English Translation is either leaked, or industrious members with Spanish backgrounds can take the initiative and translate the leaked images themselves. As I also understand it, the leaks appear to coincide with entire or at least the majority of a scene, so the images have been out for a while now. I decided to produce them here since someone asked.
 

8TB

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You say nothing about NTR and literally what we are seeing is like NTR, but since nobody cares about Alex, they don't complain, but if someone touches Lana they get excited
Technically speaking, and I had a similar exchange with Donnie, Immoral Desires is NTR. Lana is making a cuckold of Alex, no doubt about it. But as Trile3 pointed out, since Alex isn't the main male character, what we commonly describe as NTR ("netorare") falls short in its application to this series. This series is more "Netori" which usually gets distinguished from NTR because it involves the main male character being the beneficiary rather than the victim of a cuckolded relationship. And I will concede to you that Immoral Desires is without question, "Netori."
 
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