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a son of your sister or brother, or a son of the sister or brother of your husband or wife.

Martha doesn't state that it's his nephew, not hers, only that it was his (her husband's) nephew. Rosa on the very next page, states "One of your nephews? Really? On your side of the family or his? Aren't they quite young still?"

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Whether Martha refers to him as her nephew or not is of no consequence. He's the male offspring of her sister-in-law, making him her nephew. I also knew they weren't blood related because of pages five and six. I'm stating that they're aunt and nephew not in the same way that Sarah and David are, as Sarah is David's mother's sister; I'm saying that they're aunt and nephew in the same way the Japanese would call, "inseki."
Exactly, her husband nephew (by blood) just like Sarah and David for example that's my point.

She said clearly on that pic Steves sister son.
 

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Exactly, her husband nephew (by blood) just like Sarah and David for example that's my point.

She said clearly on that pic Steves sister son.
So what's the argument, here? The only way they can be "aunt and nephew" is if they're blood related? If that's not the case, then is there really a reason to state parenthetically that they're not blood related? Would it be more apropos to refer to him as her "nephew-in-law"? That distinction isn't usually made when it comes to Uncles, Aunts, Nephews, and Nieces, the same way it is done for Fathers, Mothers, Sons, and Daughters.
 

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So what's the argument, here? The only way they can be "aunt and nephew" is if they're blood related? If that's not the case, then is there really a reason to state parenthetically that they're not blood related? Would it be more apropos to refer to him as her "nephew-in-law"? That distinction isn't usually made when it comes to Uncles, Aunts, Nephews, and Nieces, the same way it is done for Fathers, Mothers, Sons, and Daughters.
Nephew-in-law is the proper way to say it in this case, blood related and not blood related (Marthas case) is a huge difference.
 

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Nephew-in-law is the proper way to say it in this case, blood related and not blood related (Marthas case) is a huge difference.
"Nephew-in-law" is not a common idiom since the term "Nephew" already includes for both blood-related and non blood-related relatives. For example, one of my cousins' mother, who isn't related to me by blood, refers to me as her nephew and I refer to her as my aunt, specifically "ma tante," which is French for aunt. If the qualification is necessary, then the distinction can be made if asked. But both you and I knew that Martha wasn't related to her nephew by blood. When I referred to her giving her nephew a blowjob, I'm using the term nephew the way I've always used it, and the way that it has been defined for centuries, which is the male child of a sibling, or the male child of a spouse's sibling. The act she performed would still be "incestuous" which is a reference to family, even if they don't share "consanguinity."
 

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"Nephew-in-law" is not a common idiom since the term "Nephew" already includes for both blood-related and non blood-related relatives. For example, one of my cousins' mother, who isn't related to me by blood, refers to me as her nephew and I refer to her as my aunt, specifically "ma tante," which is French for aunt. If the qualification is necessary, then the distinction can be made if asked. But both you and I knew that Martha wasn't related to her nephew by blood. When I referred to her giving her nephew a blowjob, I'm using the term nephew the way I've always used it, and the way that it has been defined for centuries, which is the male child of a sibling, or the male child of a spouse's sibling. The act she performed would still be "incestuous" which is a reference to family, even if they don't share "consanguinity."
My point was from the beginning that little fella aint Martha nephew by blood thats it .

Nephew-in-law is not use in the common idiom I know that but thats the correct terminology.
 

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My point was from the beginning that little fella aint Martha nephew by blood thats it .

Nephew-in-law is not use in the common idiom I know that but thats the correct terminology.
The correct terminology is "nephew." That's my point. Nephew includes for circumstances where the aunt/uncle is related to him by blood or not. You can look up the definition. I even provided it for you above. When I stated that Martha gave her nephew a blowjob, it would mean either that she gave her sibling's son a blowjob, or that she gave her spouse's sibling's son a blowjob. What happened in chapter one between Martha and John satisfies that criteria. The more apt use of the term "nephew-in-law" would apply to Luke and Uncle Peter. Sarah is his blood-related niece, and Luke is her husband, making him Uncle Peter's "nephew-in-law." If we're going by the dialogue in that chapter, Rosa took it to mean the same thing that I did, when she states to Martha, "one of YOUR nephews." The only difference is, Rosa made sure to inquire as to whether or not his being her nephew stemmed from being part of her side of the family or her husband's. And that just furthers my point, that nephew can include for both your side of the family and your spouse's.

If there's any questions as to their blood relation, then that can be clarified after the fact. The term nephew doesn't necessitate a modifier which includes the distinction since said term is already inclusive.
 

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The correct terminology is "nephew." That's my point. Nephew includes for circumstances where the aunt/uncle is related to him by blood or not. You can look up the definition. I even provided it for you above. When I stated that Martha gave her nephew a blowjob, it would mean either that she gave her sibling's son a blowjob, or that she gave her spouse's sibling's son a blowjob. What happened in chapter one between Martha and John satisfies that criteria. The more apt use of the term "nephew-in-law" would apply to Luke and Uncle Peter. Sarah is his blood-related niece, and Luke is her husband, making him Uncle Peter's "nephew-in-law." If we're going by the dialogue in that chapter, Rosa took it to mean the same thing that I did, when she states to Martha, "one of YOUR nephews." The only difference is, Rosa made sure to inquire as to whether or not his being her nephew stemmed from being part of her side of the family or her husband's. And that just furthers my point, that nephew can include for both your side of the family and your spouse's.

If there's any questions as to their blood relation, then that can be clarified after the fact. The term nephew doesn't necessitate a modifier which includes the distinction since said term is already inclusive.
"If there's any questions as to their blood relation, then that can be clarified after the fact" this right here makes the difference, people use nephew generalizing the term just to not explain the fact that a person aint blood related and to save time because lazyness, they will clarify the fact only if somebody ask them, everybody does that and is nothing new on society.

Again my point stands that Martha isnt that little fella aunt, is her husband nephew, son of his sister.

Nephew in law is the specific term in this case in her side only, she can say just nephew all she wants but she knows damn well is basically for courtesy and not by blood thats what matters at the end, if she divorce from her husband the nephew thing is over for her not for Steve.

Martha specified the fact to the girls to avoid confusion, is right there in the pic.
 
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Who the fuck cares about Martha and her nephew? that little guy will never reappear, but well... I also think the fact that he isn't blood related is relevant to the plot, because it's easier to digest for Lana and her friends, imagine this story starting with Martha revealing that she commits blood-related incest, but since it's her husband's nephew it's not as immoral.

Anyway, I care more about Martha's son, someone who was mentioned once but never showed up, not even during this whole arc in his house, he's the reason I wish it was Martha and not Sofia the one who find out about Lana and Daniel, Sofia and Rosa seems to be younger than Lana and Martha, they may not even have kids.
 

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Fair enough.



I never suggested that it was. But proposing scenarios just for the sake of proposing scenarios without much if any consideration to what's happened before not only makes no sense but also isn't the reason people read this type of material, either. What if I were to suggest a scenario where Lana gets her nipples and clitoris pierced, gets a sleeve tattoo, dyes her hair to a midtone saffron, and has Daniel fist her in her ass, while she straddles and mounts a puppy they just bought?

How does the scenario you described make any more sense than mine? We know in chapter 8, Daniel refused a blowjob from Sofia because he was upset that his mother was having sex with his father. We knew that the only reason he even touched Sofia was to make his mother jealous. We know that Lana and Sofia are friends. With all that under consideration, how would it make sense that Sofia would blackmail Lana and Daniel, because apparently Daniel's dick is more important to Sofia than Lana's friendship, have sex with Daniel and become the priority of all his attention because Sofia is without question more attractive than Lana, and then drive Lana into the arms of someone else's son, because it was so easy to get her to accept a physical relationship with her own son, just because...?




It wouldn't be a "change of pace;" It would just be a change that serves as a large "F You" to everything that has happened up to this point. Why not just come out and state, "I personally think the mother/son angle in Immoral Desires has ran its course, and I'd like to see Lana and Daniel have different sexual partners?" Why attempt to shoehorn nonsensical scenarios?




Because Lana can always fall back on the fact that she's drunk. Or Daval can have Lana completely submit to Daniel. If the covers are any indication of what's to come, then on the Chapter 9 cover, we see Lana take off her ring. I can see Daval dragging this on for a few more chapters. And when Lana and Daniel have ran their course, the popularity of which after 10 chapters, doesn't seem to be dying down, then why not just end the story? Why have them have sex with others? This is no indictment on your personal preferences, but more so with Daval's technique of inventing stories along the way. At a certain point, the female characters become nothing more than pornstar facsimiles who have sex just for the sake of having sex.
I mean it’s not denying the reality or breaking any established chapters with untrue message that Lana and Daniel don’t care about each other or that they wont end up together. I don’t really see how these physical changes you proposed somehow correlates with new lover out of jealousy as love makes people jealous. I‘m not saying Daniel will enjoy Sophia cuz let’s be honest who would? she looks like de aged grandma, but he will fuck her probably, since she found out. And how does Lana and Sophia being friends matter like really? These are Daval porn comics the only things that drive characters in his stories are lust, horniness, not logic or loyalty to their husbands or friends. Sophia wanted to fuck Lana’s son since she only had suspicion he has a big dick, where is logic or loyalty to her friend in there. It is a change of pace if you want to call it otherwise that is up to you. Now about the future of ID like i said nothing interesting comes into play, unless you’re into the whole let’s run away and get secretly married types of stories. But dragging taking off ring only goes so far, not to mention Daval purposely drags stories a lot without progressing most of the time only to generate new issues and sex scenes, again not a problem but saying that there is a lot he will do with characters seems unlikely. So i don’t really see problem with the story that Lana loves Daniel and vice verse, Sophia finds out and she could take a picture of them for blackmailing and since she wanted to fuck him for like three chapters now he’ll have to do it to not get exposed and protect Lana, Sophia will enjoy it and probably ask for Daniel a lot more after, Lana being the person she is would develop jealousy over time and feeling lonely and like a failed lover to both husband and Daniel would only give opening to someone else, for example a neighbor kid, but Daniel would fight for her and prove how much he loves her again which would turn Lana back after getting rid of Sophia and other person, so they would still end up together. If you don’t like this or in general are not in favor of other people involved, understandable and i respect that, but i don’t think it’s groundbreaking or something that would disregard their love. On the other note Rosa is smoking hot so Daval could use her instead, since it would be waste to use someone like Martha and Sophia but not her. Did we see Rosa naked? Like in other material.
 

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"If there's any questions as to their blood relation, then that can be clarified after the fact" this right here makes the difference, people use nephew generalizing the term just to not explain the fact that a person aint blood related and to save time because lazyness, they will clarify the fact only if somebody ask them, everybody does that and is nothing new on society.
It's not because of laziness, per se, though that can't be ruled out. It's a means of integrating the descriptions. The notion of "blood relation" naturally comes up in subjects of incest, but not generally. In other words, it may be important to those of us who read incest comics where pleasure is derived from consanguinity, but as far as the subject of family, blood relationships as well as legal relationships are streamlined with single terms.

Again my point stands that Martha isnt that little fella aunt, is her husband nephew, son of his sister.
No, your point doesn't stand. His uncle's wife is, by definition, his aunt. Just like how Alice and David refer to Luke, Sarah's husband, as "uncle Luke" and not "uncle-in-law Luke."

Nephew in law is the specific term in this case in her side only,
It "can" be, but generally is not the case.

she can say just nephew all she wants but she knows damn well is basically for courtesy and not by blood
Because "nephew" doesn't necessarily signify blood relation.

thats what matters at the end, if she divorce from her husband the nephew thing is over for her not for Steve.
This is categorically false. If Martha divorces her husband, she would still be the mother of John's cousin, which by definition, would make her John's aunt.

Martha specified the fact to the girls to avoid confusion, is right there in the pic.
Yes, she specified which side of the family the term nephew was being applied, she did not however negate the fact that he was her nephew.

Again, what's the argument, here? I stated that Martha gave her nephew a blowjob, and you sought to clarify an unnecessary qualification. You know they're not blood related; I know they're not blood related. The term I applied can be employed in circumstances where John is her sibling's son OR John is her spouse's sibling's son, which in this case is true through her husband Steve. So what are you trying to correct?

Who the fuck cares about Martha and her nephew?
I must admit that this is perhaps one of the the most fascinating, yet pointless exchanges I've ever had. I suppose that's inevitable in discussions over lexicon and semantics.

I also think the fact that he isn't blood related is relevant to the plot, because it's easier to digest for Lana and her friends, imagine this story starting with Martha revealing that she commits blood-related incest, but since it's her husband's nephew it's not as immoral.
I would agree with that.

Anyway, I care more about Martha's son, someone who was mentioned once but never showed up, not even during this whole arc in his house, he's the reason I wish it was Martha and not Sofia the one who find out about Lana and Daniel, Sofia and Rosa seems to be younger than Lana and Martha, they may not even have kids.
Rosa mentions having a son in chapter five of Immoral Desires, when Daniel surprises Lana at the supermarket. As far as Martha's son, I personally hope he stays out of the picture. It would be difficult to glean any meaning in a tryst between he and his mother since it would appear her intent is solely to get-off, whether it's with her nephew, his friend, or Daniel. It would just be sex with her son, just to show her having sex with her son. Then again, I'm not at all invested in Martha even as a character, so that may be coming into play here.

I mean it’s not denying the reality or breaking any established chapters with untrue message that Lana and Daniel don’t care about each other or that they wont end up together. I don’t really see how these physical changes you proposed somehow correlates with new lover out of jealousy as love makes people jealous.
Jealousy also stems from a sense of propriety; Jealousy also stems from proprietary notions; it's not just that Daniel is jealous because he loves his mom. He's jealous because he want her to be his. He's already jealous of his father (Oedipus Complex); giving Lana multiple lovers would make Daniel what? Jealous squared? It makes no sense.

I‘m not saying Daniel will enjoy Sophia cuz let’s be honest who would? she looks like de aged grandma, but he will fuck her probably, since she found out.
Then why would Daniel prioritize Sofia over his mother, driving Lana into the arms of a neighbor's son, as you suggested before? And though I can't be sure of the contact Sofia and Daniel will have after Sofia discovers his sexual relationship with his mother, Daval's message appeared to be an attempt to put out the fire ignited by the ire of the majority of the fan base, who's against the idea of Sofia being involved with Daniel sexually.


And how does Lana and Sophia being friends matter like really? These are Daval porn comics the only things that drive characters in his stories are lust, horniness, not logic or loyalty to their husbands or friends. Sophia wanted to fuck Lana’s son since she only had suspicion he has a big dick, where is logic or loyalty to her friend in there.
Of course it matters. If Sofia didn't care about her friendship with Lana, she would have fucked Daniel then and there at the pool when he was massaging her. Why is Sofia sneaking around behind Lana's back trying to have sex with Daniel? Daniel is presumably an adult; Sofia is presumably an adult. Sofia's sneaking around as a reconciliation between her sexual frustration and her friendship with Lana. She doesn't want to offend Lana by having sex with her son, so she decided to conspire with Martha to have sex with Daniel while keeping Lana in the dark. One can't just make up rules and not be observant because "it's a porn comic."

It is a change of pace if you want to call it otherwise that is up to you.
No, it's just a change, or as Jack_Zy would put it, "cutting out the thread, and replacing it with a new one."

Now about the future of ID like i said nothing interesting comes into play, unless you’re into the whole let’s run away and get secretly married types of stories. But dragging taking off ring only goes so far, not to mention Daval purposely drags stories a lot without progressing most of the time only to generate new issues and sex scenes, again not a problem but saying that there is a lot he will do with characters seems unlikely.
I'm into what it purports to be, and that's a mother-son incest comic. I never said that there's a lot he can do. Just like there isn't much a pizzeria can do outside of pizza. I'm not going in there and asking for burgers. Those who enjoy the mother-son incest theme seldom care about how long it drags out, because they're engaged for the mother-son theme itself, not just the sex, which in itself isn't enhanced when the scope of sexual partners is expanded.

So i don’t really see problem with the story that Lana loves Daniel and vice verse, Sophia finds out and she could take a picture of them for blackmailing and since she wanted to fuck him for like three chapters now he’ll have to do it to not get exposed and protect Lana, Sophia will enjoy it and probably ask for Daniel a lot more after, Lana being the person she is would develop jealousy over time and feeling lonely and like a failed lover to both husband and Daniel would only give opening to someone else, for example a neighbor kid, but Daniel would fight for her and prove how much he loves her again which would turn Lana back after getting rid of Sophia and other person, so they would still end up together.
You may think this makes sense considering everything that has happened up to this point, but it really doesn't. It just seems to be a contrived way to have Lana and Daniel have different sexual partners temporarily for reasons (?) while attempting to placate Lana and Daniel fans by the end of it. You're trying to have your cake and eat it, too. This is almost similar to what Daval did with uncle Peter in Madness Together. That is, have Sarah have a temporary tryst with her uncle only to then drive her back into David's arms. But here's the thing, Madness Together's story is a mess, and the fans are still pissed at Daval to this day for Uncle Peter's inclusion. Why would Daval risk doing something similar in Immoral Desires?

I ask once again, why attempt to shoehorn nonsensical plots? Why not just come out and state, "I don't want Immoral Desires to be just about Daniel and Lana having sex"?

If you don’t like this or in general are not in favor of other people involved, understandable and i respect that,
I made it no secret that, at least as far as Immoral Desires is concerned, that I'd like for the sex to remain between Daniel and Lana. But that's not the reason I state that your scenario doesn't make sense. Your scenario completely disregards everything that has happened up unto this point; it disregards Daniel's obvious sentiments toward Lana in comparison to other women with whom he has had contact; it disregards Lana's sense of propriety; it disregards Sofia's friendship with Lana. It appears just to be a means to an end; that is, in order to see Lana and Daniel have sex with other people, let's have Sofia blackmail her, even though Sofia is supposed to be her friend; let's have Daniel be obsessed with Sofia, even though she's not as attractive as Lana; let's have Lana have sex with a neighbor's kid just to occupy her time while Daniel is obsessing over Sofia; and then let's bring Daniel and Lana back together by the end of it, and not question the reason they had to have sex with other people during their temporary separation which happened because of "reasons," and claim that it's a path to love through jealousy even though the jealous angle has already been explored in Chapter 8.

On the other note Rosa is smoking hot so Daval could use her instead, since it would be waste to use someone like Martha and Sophia but not her. Did we see Rosa naked? Like in other material.
On this, we agree. I don't think Rosa has appeared naked in any of Daval's content. We haven't even seen her in a swimsuit. The closest we've come in seeing Rosa's body was in chapter three, I believe, when she sported nightwear when spending the night at Lana's:

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This is part of the reason I haven't invested myself as much in Satisfying Needs as I've done with the other works. I find it hard to transition from watching her get penetrated and sodomized by Liam, to suddenly a viable incestuous prospect for her father. And not that I'm complaining, because I generally don't enjoy father-daughter incest as much as the other kinds because every woman has a father, and I wouldn't be able to watch or read more than half the sexual content that I do if I had to think about these female characters having "fathers."

As a side note, I'm fairly certain that little leprechaun is on his way to get an eyeful of Amanda, Liam, and Alexa's exploits. I wished Daval would just abandon that part of the narrative.
 

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This is part of the reason I haven't invested myself as much in Satisfying Needs as I've done with the other works. I find it hard to transition from watching her get penetrated and sodomized by Liam, to suddenly a viable incestuous prospect for her father. And not that I'm complaining, because I generally don't enjoy father-daughter incest as much as the other kinds because every woman has a father, and I wouldn't be able to watch or read more than half the sexual content that I do if I had to think about these female characters having "fathers."

As a side note, I'm fairly certain that little leprechaun is on his way to get an eyeful of Amanda, Liam, and Alexa's exploits. I wished Daval would just abandon that part of the narrative.
I was the opposite - originally I was super into SN, I dug the simple harem plot. Didn't really care about ID at that point but now it's the opposite. Each spoiler for Satisfying Needs I just get more and more disappointed. Adding in a creepy dad that molests his sleeping daughter and a gremlin was definitely a choice. I'm just gonna pretend SN ended at Chapter 6 and ignore everything other than ID.
 

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It's not because of laziness, per se, though that can't be ruled out. It's a means of integrating the descriptions. The notion of "blood relation" naturally comes up in subjects of incest, but not generally. In other words, it may be important to those of us who read incest comics where pleasure is derived from consanguinity, but as far as the subject of family, blood relationships as well as legal relationships are streamlined with single terms.



No, your point doesn't stand. His uncle's wife is, by definition, his aunt. Just like how Alice and David refer to Luke, Sarah's husband, as "uncle Luke" and not "uncle-in-law Luke."



It "can" be, but generally is not the case.



Because "nephew" doesn't necessarily signify blood relation.



This is categorically false. If Martha divorces her husband, she would still be the mother of John's cousin, which by definition, would make her John's aunt.



Yes, she specified which side of the family the term nephew was being applied, she did not however negate the fact that he was her nephew.

Again, what's the argument, here? I stated that Martha gave her nephew a blowjob, and you sought to clarify an unnecessary qualification. You know they're not blood related; I know they're not blood related. The term I applied can be employed in circumstances where John is her sibling's son OR John is her spouse's sibling's son, which in this case is true through her husband Steve. So what are you trying to correct?



I must admit that this is perhaps one of the the most fascinating, yet pointless exchanges I've ever had. I suppose that's inevitable in discussions over lexicon and semantics.



I would agree with that.



Rosa mentions having a son in chapter five of Immoral Desires, when Daniel surprises Lana at the supermarket. As far as Martha's son, I personally hope he stays out of the picture. It would be difficult to glean any meaning in a tryst between he and his mother since it would appear her intent is solely to get-off, whether it's with her nephew, his friend, or Daniel. It would just be sex with her son, just to show her having sex with her son. Then again, I'm not at all invested in Martha even as a character, so that may be coming into play here.



Jealousy also stems from a sense of propriety; Jealousy also stems from proprietary notions; it's not just that Daniel is jealous because he loves his mom. He's jealous because he want her to be his. He's already jealous of his father (Oedipus Complex); giving Lana multiple lovers would make Daniel what? Jealous squared? It makes no sense.



Then why would Daniel prioritize Sofia over his mother, driving Lana into the arms of a neighbor's son, as you suggested before? And though I can't be sure of the contact Sofia and Daniel will have after Sofia discovers his sexual relationship with his mother, Daval's message appeared to be an attempt to put out the fire ignited by the ire of the majority of the fan base, who's against the idea of Sofia being involved with Daniel sexually.




Of course it matters. If Sofia didn't care about her friendship with Lana, she would have fucked Daniel then and there at the pool when he was massaging her. Why is Sofia sneaking around behind Lana's back trying to have sex with Daniel? Daniel is presumably an adult; Sofia is presumably an adult. Sofia's sneaking around as a reconciliation between her sexual frustration and her friendship with Lana. She doesn't want to offend Lana by having sex with her son, so she decided to conspire with Martha to have sex with Daniel while keeping Lana in the dark. One can't just make up rules and not be observant because "it's a porn comic."



No, it's just a change, or as Jack_Zy would put it, "cutting out the thread, and replacing it with a new one."



I'm into what it purports to be, and that's a mother-son incest comic. I never said that there's a lot he can do. Just like there isn't much a pizzeria can do outside of pizza. I'm not going in there and asking for burgers. Those who enjoy the mother-son incest theme seldom care about how long it drags out, because they're engaged for the mother-son theme itself, not just the sex, which in itself isn't enhanced when the scope of sexual partners is expanded.



You may think this makes sense considering everything that has happened up to this point, but it really doesn't. It just seems to be a contrived way to have Lana and Daniel have different sexual partners temporarily for reasons (?) while attempting to placate Lana and Daniel fans by the end of it. You're trying to have your cake and eat it, too. This is almost similar to what Daval did with uncle Peter in Madness Together. That is, have Sarah have a temporary tryst with her uncle only to then drive her back into David's arms. But here's the thing, Madness Together's story is a mess, and the fans are still pissed at Daval to this day for Uncle Peter's inclusion. Why would Daval risk doing something similar in Immoral Desires?

I ask once again, why attempt to shoehorn nonsensical plots? Why not just come out and state, "I don't want Immoral Desires to be just about Daniel and Lana having sex"?



I made it no secret that, at least as far as Immoral Desires is concerned, that I'd like for the sex to remain between Daniel and Lana. But that's not the reason I state that your scenario doesn't make sense. Your scenario completely disregards everything that has happened up unto this point; it disregards Daniel's obvious sentiments toward Lana in comparison to other women with whom he has had contact; it disregards Lana's sense of propriety; it disregards Sofia's friendship with Lana. It appears just to be a means to an end; that is, in order to see Lana and Daniel have sex with other people, let's have Sofia blackmail her, even though Sofia is supposed to be her friend; let's have Daniel be obsessed with Sofia, even though she's not as attractive as Lana; let's have Lana have sex with a neighbor's kid just to occupy her time while Daniel is obsessing over Sofia; and then let's bring Daniel and Lana back together by the end of it, and not question the reason they had to have sex with other people during their temporary separation which happened because of "reasons," and claim that it's a path to love through jealousy even though the jealous angle has already been explored in Chapter 8.



On this, we agree. I don't think Rosa has appeared naked in any of Daval's content. We haven't even seen her in a swimsuit. The closest we've come in seeing Rosa's body was in chapter three, I believe, when she sported nightwear when spending the night at Lana's:

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And note that Daniel didn't give Rosa a second thought despite her appearance, other than the fact that her presence was inconvenient in his advances toward his mother.
At the end of the day the blood related relationship is what matters and makes the difference no matter if you like it or not, thats my point from the beginning.

Shes absolutely not his aunt, you can say it technically at best but by proxy they ain't shit :BootyTime:
 
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I was the opposite - originally I was super into SN, I dug the simple harem plot. Didn't really care about ID at that point but now it's the opposite. Each spoiler for Satisfying Needs I just get more and more disappointed. Adding in a creepy dad that molests his sleeping daughter and a gremlin was definitely a choice. I'm just gonna pretend SN ended at Chapter 6 and ignore everything other than ID.
I would've dug the simple harem plot, too. I think Daval introduces these "kinks" every few chapters or so to test whether or not the audience has become acclimated to his fetishes. I mean, after watching Liam mine for coal in Emma's anus, what possible pleasure could I glean from watching Emma have sex with her father? What will she do with her dad that she hasn't done with Liam? And if her blood relationship to her dad is intended to qualify an added meaning to their sex, then why would that hold if she was willing to let someone, albeit not a stranger, who isn't related to her sodomize her because some woman whom she barely knows goaded her into it? Don't get me wrong, I know that these plot devices are meant to create convenience, but sometimes I'm baffled by what some authors think they can get away with unnoticed.

And now, that little gremlin, as you so aptly put it, is heading toward Amanda, Alexa, and Liam. My working theory is that Amanda is going to notice the leprechaun making a B-Line for their room, since she's sitting on the couch facing the window while Liam is sodomizing her sister; Amanda and Liam will rush to get dressed while Alexa stays behind to "run interference" because she's the "slutty aunt," resulting in an actual sexual encounter this time. Another working theory I have is they're going to let gremlin into the room, since Alexa is recording them, and get him to incriminate himself on camera and remove him as a threat for good. I'm usually wrong about this stuff, so I in fact hope that I'm speaking these events into "nonexistence."

At the end of the day the blood related relationship is what matters and makes the difference no matter if you like it or not, thats my point from the beginning.

Shes absolutely not his aunt, you can say it technically at best but by proxy they ain't shit :BootyTime:
I think we should end our exchange on this subject matter here. I don't think I can let this thread suffer any more from the "Aunt-Nephew Wars of 2024." I've obviously not done a good job at convincing you, and I doubt you'll be able to convince me otherwise. Just for the sake of our communication, note that when I use the terms, "aunt, uncle, niece, or nephew" I'm referring to the description which includes consanguineous and non-consanguineous relations; and I'll make sure to note that when you use the terms "aunt, uncle, niece, or nephew" you're referring to a strict blood-relationship.
 

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I see that daval is succeeding, he is changing his fan base both on his paid pages and in forums since the harem / momson followers are not so active anymore and those of NTR Cucks making many theories about how to introduce their fetishes, I thought that daval would leave the harem at level 10 receiving Sn and ID without NTR or old but apparently his fetishes are so much towards that side that he wants to show them that by force, someone told me a long time ago that daval was part of y3df something that I have not been able to verify but it seems to be true, how the Y3df comics started always mom son and in the end he would introduce NTR for the cucks and end up making a shitty milkshake of sex that makes no sense to me and I think some of them are no longer worth anything, their work is poor quality and consistency, constant delays in updates and above all their word is worthless.
 
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