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Then he is not "sex-obsessed." He's obsessed with physical contact from his mother, and his mother only. That's a notable difference. Every female in the comic, with the exception of Rosa, seems to be attracted to Daniel. But Daniel has only ever expressed interest in Lana even in charged moments with other women, namely Sofia and Martha. Even when Kiara, Sharon's friend, expresses interest in him, he doesn't appear to give it much, if any, attention.
I take off, he shaded. This is clearly an unprecedented insight in this forum, someone who has understood with absolute clarity that the Oedipus complex is not simply reduced to sexual desire, but encompasses all the nuances and transformations of personality.
:cautious: Ouch! Well. I think people sometimes forget that a trait of some character can make him totally different from the others, just because of that particular trait or a remarkable characteristic, whatever his charisma or his way of being or his way of acting in different situations. See in this case Daniel, who is a clear representation of the Oedipus complex, also having dyes of the neurologist Sigmund Freud, of the psychology of the Ego, the ego, and the superego. Daniel being an allegory to the Ego, since it represents it being the Ego, it contains the drives and impulses and desires of the human being, being also in some cases represented as the most mundane and lowest desires of the human being, but at the end of the day being a clear representation of the Oedipus complex. View attachment 3808949
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Dami28

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That's not quite what I asked. But if the question is too crass, consider it dropped.

I don't take it personally, yes I am not a virgin ha ha if that what your are asking :ROFLMAO:and I am in a stable relationship, I have read some comments that in some cases a partner is sleeping and she/he is woke up in a sexual advance I get it there are blurred lines but having sex with a woman unconscious by sleeping pills is rape. Of course is a comic but It supposed to be an incest comic and here the character Daniel crossed a line.
 

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I take off, he shaded. This is clearly an unprecedented insight in this forum, someone who has understood with absolute clarity that the Oedipus complex is not simply reduced to sexual desire, but encompasses all the nuances and transformations of personality.
I think I may have a prediction as to what may proceed from these events. Alex clearly returned from eating breakfast at a restaurant to provide a Deus Ex Machina for Sharon and Kiara's discovering Daniel's having sex with a sleeping Lana. I imagine Sharon is going to hear her uncle's shouting, and suggest that she and Kiara should hide. Unbeknownst to them, they'll make their way to Daniel's room. Daniel after inseminating Lana, will make his way for the door to start looking for Sharon's bunny costume. Now either of one of two things can happen: (1) Daniel can notice his father coming up the stairs just as he's left his parents room, or (2) Daniel doesn't get that far and has to hide under their bed. It doesn't matter much because eventually he's going to escape unnoticed, and make his way back to his room. With the latter option, I imagine Daval can have Daniel leave in a hurry with his shorts and underwear in his hand. And when he finally makes it back to his room, Sharon and Kiara will see Daniel with his pants off, creating more tension, especially considering that they heard strange noises, and Alex was outside at the time when they heard those noises. Lana will come to, and notice she's been inseminated. She'll ask Alex if they had sex, but he'll tell her that she fell asleep when they tried. She'll correctly assume that Daniel had sex with her while she's asleep, and then start to look for Daniel herself. She'll head over to Daniel's room, and either notice that Daniel is in there with Sharon or Kiara butt naked, facilitating another "jealous arc" for Lana, or she'll hear voices and act as voyeur to Kiara making a move on Daniel.

I don't take it personally, yes I am not a virgin ha ha if that what your are asking
That wasn't what I was asking, either.

and I am in a stable relationship, I have read some comments that in some cases a partner is sleeping and she/he is woke up in a sexual advance I get it there are blurred lines but having sex with a woman unconscious by sleeping pills is rape.
What is the difference between her being asleep as a result of her being tired, and being asleep under chemical induction? Are we forgetting that Daniel did not intend for Lana's coffee to be laced with the sleeping drug? And if Daniel planned to "date rape" her, why did he wait until the morning after when the effects of sleeping pills usually wear off, and not approach her after his father fell asleep? Daniel has already exhibited that he doesn't care to make advances toward Lana when his dad is around:

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(According to webmd, sleeping pills usually wear off after 7-8 hours, and Rohypnol, date rape drug, lasts about 12 hours.) It's also clear that Daniel doesn't know much about this drug, which is merely a convenient means to give him and his mother alone time. Not to mention, before he approaches Lana, he has a fantasy about her that morning assuming that she's awake. So what are we really fussing about here? If you, in a stable relationship, have either read of or experienced "blurred lines" then why is it different for Daniel and Lana, who are in a de facto sexual relationship?

Of course is a comic but It supposed to be an incest comic and here the character Daniel crossed a line.
Crossed whose line? Yours?
 
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Dami28

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That wasn't what I was asking, either.

Well so I do not get it what you asked me as you might have noticed my english is not may native language, lets leave it there, but I wanted to say that I just didn't think the potential question was crass or what I thought your were asking.

What is the difference between her being asleep as a result of her being tired, and being asleep under chemical induction? Are we forgetting that Daniel did not intend for Lana's coffee to be laced with the sleeping drug? And if Daniel planned to "date rape" her, why did he wait until the morning after when the effects of sleeping pills usually wear off, and not approach her after his father fell asleep? Daniel has already exhibited that he doesn't care to make advances toward Lana when his dad is around:

I think the difference is clear with drugs a woman can't stop somebody from abusing her, of course if she was sleeping and is woken up with some sexual advance has the opportunity of accepting the advance or rejected it. Consent is the magic word.

Crossed whose line? Yours?
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The lines like the character I thought It was descripted at the beginning of the story. I didn't thinK Daval would put the character crossing the line of abusing of her love object in this way.
 

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Well so I do not get it what you asked me as you might have noticed my english is not may native language, lets leave it there, but I wanted to say that I just didn't think the potential question was crass or what I thought your were asking.
I prefaced the initial question insisting that I wasn't trying to make fun of or tease you, because I honestly wasn't. The possibility of your being a virgin wasn't the focus of the question, but more so the relationship aspect with someone with whom you have sex.

I think the difference is clear with drugs a woman can't stop somebody from abusing her, of course if she was sleeping and is woken up with some sexual advance has the opportunity of accepting the advance or rejected it. Consent is the magic word.
Do you ask for consent for every physical act engaged by you and your partner?

The lines like the character I thought It was descripted at the beginning of the story. I didn't thinK Daval would put the character crossing the line of abusing of her love object in this way.
What has Daniel done differently? In those pages of Immoral Desires 11, I referenced when Daniel performs cunnilingus on a sleeping Lana, and she wakes up during it, she verbally rejects him. So why has he crossed a line now, but not then? If you read the recent update, does Daniel find or note any particular advantage in having sex with his mom while she sleeps? Or is it this notion of obsession he has with her that precludes him from managing his urges in a manner that does not include mauling his mother? May I ask: how would the scene have been different if Lana was awake?

(If my prediction's correct, Lana's being asleep during is merely a clumsy plot device meant to have her seek Daniel and eventually catch him in a precarious situation with other females.)
 

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That's not quite what I asked. But if the question is too crass, consider it dropped.



And as I'm sure you know, the name of the complex wasn't named because the behavior exhibited was to a tee a mirror image of Oedipus. You're only arguing nomenclature, now.



Then he is not "sex-obsessed." He's obsessed with physical contact from his mother, and his mother only. That's a notable difference. Every female in the comic, with the exception of Rosa, seems to be attracted to Daniel. But Daniel has only ever expressed interest in Lana even in charged moments with other women, namely Sofia and Martha. Even when Kiara, Sharon's friend, expresses interest in him, he doesn't appear to give it much, if any, attention.



Yes, he's been willing to do anything to carry out his interests, but he's been forthcoming about those interests with Lana. So his lacking a "scrap of honesty" isn't based on anything.



Daniel never got Lana drunk. Lana got drunk on her own at the end of Chapter 9 because she was frustrated with Alex passing out.



Yes, he has done this.



He hasn't assaulted her.



Yes, he has done this, and I admit that's pretty messed up.



Why do you guys keep compelling me to recall this moment? What about the end of Chapter Eight when that stranger tried to "recruit" Lana, subsequently groping her, and Daniel rescued her, shoving that stranger without thinking twice? Seeing as the man was much larger in physique than Daniel was, would his putting himself in harms way be considered "selfless"?




Yes, that's the theme with which Daval proceeded following Chapter 4. I think he believes (I'm only guessing) that their willingness to do anytime or any place is a measure of how intense their love and lust is. The consequences of exposure is intended to provide stakes, and a fallback on which Lana can return when she's not fully invested. The culmination of everything that has gone on is intended to eventually have Lana fully commit.




The consequences are ultimately controlled by Daval. And given his V.I.P. comics, Lana and Daniel's public shenanigans are rather tame. If his V.I.P. characters haven't ended up in jail, I doubt Lana or Daniel will.



The two aren't mutually exclusive. And given this recent update, not to mention, the previous others, I would heavily disagree with Daniel's not feeling a compulsion to have sex with Lana.




Exactly. Because as I have stated before, it's not just the Oedipus complex Daval has broached with Daniel, it's also the male power fantasy. It isn't breaking news that Daniel is trying to dominate and bend Lana to his will. And Lana in her thought bubbles has expressed an attraction to this aspect of Daniel. If Daniel wasn't aggressive and assertive, Lana would probably have done less than 5% of what she has done. Daniel's character traits are necessary to push Lana out of her comfort zone and indulge her IMMORAL DESIRES. Otherwise, she'd have absolutely no incentive to cheat on Alex. (In all honesty, her reasons for cheating on Alex are silly.)



No offense, but I don't think you've assimilated the events of the previous 11 chapters to recount this entire story "in a nutshell." I think you're more focus on shitting on Daniel, for reasons known only to you. There are just a few people in whom I'm confident actually knows the nuances of Immoral Desires' plot. Nevertheless, I'm not here to change your mind, only rebuff the errors in descriptions that are far from accurate.
Not a lot of time but thank you for your reply. I admit that I don't spend a lot of time reading porn comics, only skimming them for amusement, where and when I can, enjoying their stories and colourful art when I have five or ten minutes to waste and in the mood. I dropped Madness Together because a story involving an underage youth (Arron) being groomed by his pedophile mother (Sarah) and initiated by her into adult sexual activity, prematurely, to his detriment, wasn't to my taste. Now Daniel's rape of his unconscious mother is so utterly repellent to me I've no choice but to drop Immoral Desires, too, despite my huge fondness for the lovely Lana character. I imagine all of us have lines in the sand we simply cannot cross, and, for me, today, this is as far as I can go exploring Daval's world. No harm, no foul. All the best. Over and out. (y)
 
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Not a lot of time but thank you for your reply. I admit that I don't spend a lot of time reading porn comics, only skimming them for amusement, where and when I can, enjoying their stories and colourful art when I have five or ten minutes to waste and in the mood. I dropped Madness Together because a story involving an underage youth (Arron) being groomed by his pedophile mother (Sarah) and initiated by her into adult sexual activity, prematurely, to his detriment, wasn't to my taste. Now Daniel's rape of his unconscious mother is so utterly repellent to me I've no choice but to drop Immoral Desires, too, despite my huge fondness for the lovely Lana character. I imagine all of us have lines in the sand we simply cannot cross, and, for me, today, this is as far as I can go exploring Daval's world. No harm, no foul. All the best. Over and out. (y)
This is porn comics..about immoral acts horniness and sexual fantasy...i recommend you go and read Dostoevsky or Shakespeare for moral and neat acts..you came wrong firum..this comis are not for soft people..we enjoy these works
 
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xXwankerXx

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All disagreements aside, we all have our likes and dislikes or complete no-nos with Daval's porn comics, ID and MT, specifically, cuz of our personal tastes and pereferences, fact is, nobody can deny the man knows his stuff and does a fantASStic job with those female characters of his, all of them. Just look at Lana's majestic in this render. Hoooly shiiieett, girl.:love:

Can't say I blame D for not ever wanting to pull his dick out of her pussy, except for the occasional necessary 'breaks'... that thing is the definition of perfection.:love: Lucky ass motherfucker. It'd be nice if Sofia, Sharon, Kiara and Martha got a piece of his magical MC dick too for a change tho. Kinda feels like they're in the story just for comic relief and some extra eye candy after so many chapters with no action with the MC.
 

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Holy Schmoly Daval is such a moron drove ID into the ground. Why is Daniel drug raping a girl he’s fucked multiple times. This is what happens when you take away the resistance, you just have bs that makes no sense.

We could’ve still had a mother getting fucked by her son and showing resistance, but getting overpowered every time or tricked every time or convinced anyways.

Instead we have this gibberish. Where the mom wants it and there’s no stakes.
Literally zero stakes.
 

8TB

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Irony is reading incest comics and consider morality on a rape. It's a comic and both are wrong .You can't be ok with incest and condem rape.
I'm not a fan of this argument, either. That is, "because it's a comic..." I would assume most of us are invested in these comics for more than just the character designs. We're reading simulated sexual acts of human beings, albeit through 3D renders. And how these characters act influences a reader's ability to attach themselves to the narrative. That's how they stay engaged. Just because it's a comic, it doesn't mean one can't get offended by some of the themes broached in it. Heck, a few months back, I got upset because Daniel called Lana a bitch. So I can only imagine how upset one could get if a beloved character does something they consider heinous. That's the reason I stated that I wasn't trying to invalidate anyone's feelings. I'm more so trying to challenge the consistency of the positions on which they've expressed those feelings.

Btw lana said daniel owns her body so he can use whenever he want.
This is truly an underrated comment. My hat's off to you, sir. Lana's stating this should speak to the issue of "consent." Here, I've compiled a few pages where Lana acknowledges that she told Daniel that he "owns" her body, and how she feels about it:

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So I ask, if Lana and Daniel are in a sexual relationship, and Lana's reservations at this point is "public exposure," not the sex itself, then, based on what we've read, would Lana have an issue with Daniel's having sex with her while she slept, if not only has she acknowledged to both herself and Daniel that he now "owns" her body, but also that she's attracted to the idea that her son "owns" her body, subsequently galvanizing him to have sex with her whenever he wants?

And for those of you convinced that Daniel doesn't care about hurting Lana, and cares only about his sexual urges, I suggest you read these pages:

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8TB

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Not a lot of time but thank you for your reply. I admit that I don't spend a lot of time reading porn comics, only skimming them for amusement, where and when I can, enjoying their stories and colourful art when I have five or ten minutes to waste and in the mood.
I appreciate the honesty.


I dropped Madness Together because a story involving an underage youth (Arron) being groomed by his pedophile mother (Sarah) and initiated by her into adult sexual activity, prematurely, to his detriment, wasn't to my taste.
Aaron doesn't look much younger than David does. All the characters are technically 18 and over, but I suspect this disclaimer is just legal protection from portraying "near-shota" content. But again, I'd have to disagree with your descriptions. Sarah groomed Aaron no more than she groomed David, and she really went after David. If you weren't offended by the first three chapters, then it's beyond me to understand why these last two chapters were the straw that broke the camel's back.

Now Daniel's rape of his unconscious mother is so utterly repellent to me I've no choice but to drop Immoral Desires, too, despite my huge fondness for the lovely Lana character.
Is there no room for nuance? Especially since we have yet to determine Lana's reaction?

I imagine all of us have lines in the sand we simply cannot cross, and, for me, today, this is as far as I can go exploring Daval's world. No harm, no foul. All the best. Over and out. (y)
I can respect this. (And I agree with the principle, even though I disagree where it's being applied.) Sorry to see you go.
 
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All disagreements aside, we all have our likes and dislikes or complete no-nos with Daval's porn comics, ID and MT, specifically, cuz of our personal tastes and pereferences, fact is, nobody can deny the man knows his stuff and does a fantASStic job with those female characters of his, all of them. Just look at Lana's majestic in this render. Hoooly shiiieett, girl.:love:

Can't say I blame D for not ever wanting to pull his dick out of her pussy, except for the occasional necessary 'breaks'... that thing is the definition of perfection.:love: Lucky ass motherfucker. It'd be nice if Sofia, Sharon, Kiara and Martha got a piece of his magical MC dick too for a change tho. Kinda feels like they're in the story just for comic relief and some extra eye candy after so many chapters with no action with the MC.
After this out of nowhere unwanted retarded ass fiasco Daval should focus on those females you mentioned (Rose too shame everyone forgets about her even you lol) with spinoffs not involving Daniel or Lana.

Daval still can create a harem for Daniel for a change starting with Sharon since she's his cousin but he will need to give him a 180 and put his pocket on stake , stupid scenarios like this one happens when the artist limits himself in his art just focusing on 2 character for money letting subs to dictate what to do, he's clearly out of ideas and now we have a truly pos obnoxious entitled narcissistic MC :FacePalm: hope the subs are happy :KEK:.
 

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Since this comic creators are doing comics for fun not to earn they should take ideas from free forums instead of who are paying him and make comics . So they can end of like y3df.
 
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