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It was pretty funny at first but then I found it a little weird that so many Peter fans couldn't tell the difference between Aron David and Daniel (Daniel, a character from another comic) and now they think that Daval's new comic called Peter is TO hahaha now I think I know why they like the old man, they identify with it
You hit the nail on the head, Terror. I mentioned something similar sometime back. Whenever I saw comments along the lines of, "Peter is better than David, he fucked Sarah better..." I'd always think to myself, "No he didn't." If one pays attention to Chapters Four through Six, they're virtually the same as Chapters One through three, just with a different male. And there seems to be an unusual preoccupation among Uncle Peter's fans with his penis size. Now, granted it's no secret that I've mentioned liking Uncle Peter's scenes with Sarah better, but that's not because I like the old-geezer, young beauty dynamic in particular, although I can't deny that plays some role. I like it mostly because he's her uncle, and she's his niece. I like the power-dynamic; I like that Sarah was deferential and obedient toward Uncle Peter, which is understandable because again, he's her uncle. I also like adult incest, which is rare. Most of these male characters despite the disclaimers look like minors. And while I'm no where near old enough to identify with Uncle Peter entirely, I'm not young enough to identify with David, either.All Peter's fans
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It's good that you don't care, but in my case I do care and many old subscribers, since Daval sold you a product and then betrayed his fan base, if he had been honest like his VIP comics full of shotas and NTR it would be different, but when everyone realized how he works, that he has no idea what to do in the next pages, everyone asks him for (his fetishes and threatens to unsubscribe) and criticizes him, Daval wanted more money quickly than he would have obtained with the same base, but he stopped being a good comic creator to become a crazydad3d 2.0, whatever they pay him a few dollars more or be your friends, he renders that.You hit the nail on the head, Terror. I mentioned something similar sometime back. Whenever I saw comments along the lines of, "Peter is better than David, he fucked Sarah better..." I'd always think to myself, "No he didn't." If one pays attention to Chapters Four through Six, they're virtually the same as Chapters One through three, just with a different male. And there seems to be an unusual preoccupation among Uncle Peter's fans with his penis size. Now, granted it's no secret that I've mentioned liking Uncle Peter's scenes with Sarah better, but that's not because I like the old-geezer, young beauty dynamic in particular, although I can't deny that plays some role. I like it mostly because he's her uncle, and she's his niece. I like the power-dynamic; I like that Sarah was deferential and obedient toward Uncle Peter, which is understandable because again, he's her uncle. I also like adult incest, which is rare. Most of these male characters despite the disclaimers look like minors. And while I'm no where near old enough to identify with Uncle Peter entirely, I'm not young enough to identify with David, either.
By that very same token, Terror, perhaps the controversy surrounding Uncle Peter's inclusion outside of Daval's dishonesty with his initial intentions is that a majority of the audience don't identify with Uncle Peter. Most of the male audience is probably in their late teens and early twenties. Of course they wouldn't identify with Uncle Peter. There are some facets of Uncle Peter with which I can indentify, i.e. cold and calculating, and I have siblings with children--my eldest nephew, a young adult, probably being the same age as many of those who even post on this thread. I'm not particularly interested in this Peter comic, though I've obviously seen the first released pages since I used the nurse in my rankings. Honestly, if Uncle Peter is not with Sarah, I don't really care what he does, or whom with. I like the incest, I don't care about an old fart pounding young nurses.
It's not really an issue of my caring or not caring. I acknowledge that he was dishonest, if your description of how Uncle Peter's conception occurred is as you stated. If you want my honest opinion, I don't think there was really a "peter81." I think that was just an alias so that Daval can shoehorn uncle Peter in while having an excuse to fallback on once controversy ensued. Think about it, he created THREE full-length chapters focusing on this Uncle Peter/Sarah narrative, despite the fact that the entire time the majority of the audience was in an uproar. At anytime, he could've refunded the money to this Peter81, and renege on this supposed arrangement to include this Peter's likeness, especially if it meant alienating his paying customers. And now, Peter is getting his own comic. Do you really think that's because one guy made one large payment one time?It's good that you don't care, but in my case I do care and many old subscribers, since Daval sold you a product and then betrayed his fan base,
I agree. No one makes a fuss about his other VIP comics because they know what they're getting from the beginning.if he had been honest like his VIP comics full of shotas and NTR it would be different,
While Daval isn't a terrible writer, I would say that he operates with a "one-track" mind. Too many of his plots lack nuance, and are overly simplified. I suppose it can't be helped much given his ambitious nature. When you spread yourself too thin, something is bound to suffer.but when everyone realized how he works, that he has no idea what to do in the next pages, everyone asks him for (his fetishes and threatens to unsubscribe) and criticizes him,
As unfortunate as it would be to have a crazydad3d 2.0, that is Daval's prerogative. If he wants to sell his material on the platform of debaucherous, NTR-loving, voyeuristic, free-for-all, meaningless sex, then that's his right. It's incumbent upon the paying customers to dictate whether or not they're going to support this platform. After all, his artistic skills, borrowed assets notwithstanding, are his skills.Daval wanted more money quickly than he would have obtained with the same base, but he stopped being a good comic creator to become a crazydad3d 2.0, whatever they pay him a few dollars more or be your friends, he renders that.
Exactly, what I don't like about this comic is the fanaticism towards a character. I understand it in the other two comics, but in "Juntos" you just have to enjoy the interactions of the characters, jealousy, etc. That's why it's called "Juntos." I imagine that when this comic reaches its conclusion, both protagonists will have their respective mothers: Sara will be with Aron, and David's mother and Alice will be with David.Good point, I wanted to see David x Sara x Alice, but if at some point Aroon has action with his mother, I wouldn't mind, like in Satisfying Needs where Liam has his mother Amanda and his aunt Alexa, and then he got Emma, and now Emma will do it with her father. I hope something like that happens in Together.
I agree, I mean, it's a comic called "Together", so yeah... sharing will be the main thing, I remember back in the 8muses days when I mentioned how a male cousin would be dangerous, because it may give NTR vibes but now it's clear that at some point David and Aaron will team-up and fuck them all together.Piter is still in the house, but from what I understand, Daval commented that Piter would not touch Sara (nothing sexual), which angered the fan base of Uncle Piter. And as I mentioned above, Daval gave him his own comic. Daval returned to his initial idea with David and Aron, now introducing the second protagonist (Aron). Many still say that David is the protagonist, but if David is the protagonist, why did Daval make Aron Sara's son? It would be much better to give him a daughter and that would solve the problems. What I don't like is that they want everything to be for David; they want a threesome for David, then David's mom comes and David sleeps with her, then a quartet for David. What happened to sharing? I imagine what they want to see is Sara, Alice, David's mother, in a quartet, with Aron watching from afar. And they say they don't like NTR. When they asked Daval what it was about, he commented that it was about sharing.
Didn't Terror post a screenshot some time ago when Daval polled his subscribers to see their sentiments toward Peter, and almost 2:1, they voted against Peter? I would assume that most of his subscribers who were able to vote on this poll had access to VIP comics, right? I'm not stating that Uncle Peter doesn't have fans, but how many VIP subscribers would pay top dollar to see Lana, for example, get worn out by some strange old geezer? Yet, Daval doesn't do it. It would seem to me that Daval, himself, has an attachment to Uncle Peter, and I don't think it's because some random subscriber paid him some exorbitant amount that he's probably already spent.The members were angry with Daval for the inclusion of Uncle Piter, which is understandable. (Together) he was introduced as a comic with two protagonists, Aron and David. We all knew that at some point in the plot, Aron would take center stage, and surely no one would mind for the simple fact that he was presented from the beginning. In fact, I'm almost sure that if Uncle Piter hadn't made his appearance, Aron would have appeared much earlier. But for better or worse, Pieter gained many fans, so many fans that they pay for a VIP subscription just to see him, so Daval had to give him his own comic.
Which makes Chapters Four through Six of Madness Together, in retrospect, a bit of a waste.Piter is still in the house, but from what I understand, Daval commented that Piter would not touch Sara (nothing sexual), which angered the fan base of Uncle Piter.
It's a bit like the concept in Economics, known as the "first mover's advantage," except in this case, it's the "first character's advantage." David is the first character, before Alice, Sarah, Luke, Aaron, or Uncle Peter. Most of the male audience was introduced to this work through David, starting with his appearance in Satisfying Needs 6. So, it's not really a surprise that most of said audience has hitched their cart to David's wagon. This is typically the issue with having female characters engage multiple male characters. It can only serve to polarize the audience, especially if it's a predominantly male audience, and sooner or later, they're going to pick an MMC and plant their flag.And as I mentioned above, Daval gave him his own comic. Daval returned to his initial idea with David and Aron, now introducing the second protagonist (Aron). Many still say that David is the protagonist, but if David is the protagonist, why did Daval make Aron Sara's son? It would be much better to give him a daughter and that would solve the problems. What I don't like is that they want everything to be for David; they want a threesome for David, then David's mom comes and David sleeps with her, then a quartet for David. What happened to sharing? I imagine what they want to see is Sara, Alice, David's mother, in a quartet, with Aron watching from afar. And they say they don't like NTR. When they asked Daval what it was about, he commented that it was about sharing.
That is, the Chancellor Palpetine to Aaron's Darth Vader? I can see that. It seems to be working as that story about Aaron's "friend" catching his mom sleeping with his cousin seems to have Uncle Peter's finger prints all over it.Uncle Pieter will no longer touch Sara, that is a fact, since he already has his own comic. I believe his role in the house will only be that of a counselor.
The issue with this is, how would this make it any easier for Aaron or David to have sex with Sarah or Alice? I mean David and Alice can probably have sex at work, but what about Aaron and Sarah? Or David and Sarah?That is why Daval brought Luke, so that Uncle Pieter doesn't try anything with Sara, because there would be no way to prevent it without Luke.