I see 12 dislike in id last update, usually there are 3 or less.
Comics Collection Pinup Daval3D Collection [2025-09-28] [Daval3D]
There a thousands of comics on internet and if I comment on everything I dislike about them ill not able to do anything else. better to move on if it's not according to your moral or taste rather than crying and moaning about it. The reality is this complainers are the biggest fans of ID as they invest more energy on a comic they pretending to don't like.
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ToWhomItMayConcern69
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I'm sorry, what? When did I give the idea I care about this whatsoever? Facts are simply facts and all I did was state them. The law isn't arbitrary like a "hypothetical" emir's decree, it's built on principles of consent and harm prevention, universally recognized in modern legal systems.
Lana's "permission" in a fictional context doesn't override the reality that unconscious people can't consent, and minors can't legally consent to adults, especially not parents. This isn't about Daval's opinion, it's about objective harm, statutory rape, incest, and non-consensual acts are crimes for good reason.
Equating personal preferences to legal and ethical standards is a false equivalence that ignores real-world consequences. Hence why he's on Subscribestar and not Patreon because Subscribestar doesn't enforce many laws on cartoons because they are cartoons, but doesn't change what this is, which is: rape. His opinion as well as yours are irrelevant due to the laws of the place where the game is provided, and it's not Qatar. "Dura lex, sed lex".
Now, while some countries in Asia and Africa may not criminalize marital rape, every nation in Europe, the Americas, and Oceania would call you wrong. I'm not saying some regions are inherently better and the others are savages who stone homosexuals and value cows over women, but the contrast in legal protections for consent and autonomy speaks for itself.
Regardless, it's fucking cartoons, who gives a shit? I personally don't enjoy it but you won't see me making a fuss about it. Lost any interest I had in his redundant, circular writing a long time ago.
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ToWhomItMayConcern69
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Motherfucker, am I a joke to you?Just back to cut through the ridiculous amount of post facto bullshit and opinion hereabouts about rape. For an unbiased, definitive and accurate legal opinion I asked ChatGPT the following question:
"If a man has sex with a woman while she is unconscious, even if she gave him permission to do so while awake, would he be guilty of rape."
And ChatGPT's verdict was:
"Yes, in most legal systems, having sex with an unconscious person is considered rape, even if that person gave prior consent while conscious.
Here’s why:
1. Consent must be ongoing and conscious
2. Legal precedent and case law
- Most modern legal definitions of consent require it to be informed, voluntary, and continuous.
- Consent given ahead of time cannot override the fact that the person is unconscious and unable to revoke or modify that consent during the act.
- A person must have the ability to change their mind at any time — something an unconscious person cannot do.
3. Ethical considerations
- Courts in many jurisdictions have ruled that prior consent does not legalize sexual acts performed while the person is incapacitated.
- Even if someone says "you can have sex with me later when I'm asleep," that does not make it lawful, because they are not actively consenting at the time of the act.
Exception (rare and legally complex)
- Apart from the legal aspect, there are serious moral and ethical issues with engaging in sex with someone who cannot participate, respond, or withdraw consent.
In some committed relationships, particularly in cases where both partners have agreed to very specific and legally documented sexual boundaries (e.g., within some kink contexts), courts might take that into account — but even then, many legal systems still prohibit unconscious sex outright, regardless of prior agreement.
Summary: Yes, even if the woman gave permission while awake, sex with her while unconscious is almost certainly considered rape under the law in most jurisdictions. Consent must be active and ongoing, and unconscious people cannot legally or ethically provide it."
You can check this out by asking the AI the same question yourself; I really don't know why nobody thought to do this from the get go and settle the matter. I would have done so myself earlier but was otherwise occupied with work.
VERDICT: Daniel raped his unconscious mother and IS piece of shit rapist. End of.
You're welcome.
I stated almost every single one of those things in one of my previous posts!
8TB
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If you say so.
There is no "objective" harm in this matter, when it concerns the behavior of two subjects, i.e. Daniel and Lana. Everyone is a subject in their own lives and the subjects of their own actions; hence, there is no objectivity. It may make you feel better to think that your statements are divorced from how you feel by citing "law" but all law is, whether arbitrary and/or "universally recognized" is a collection of feelings.
And yes, Daval's opinion matters most. Why? Because he's both Lana and Daniel. He knows better than anyone how they feel, how they think, what they both accept and don't accept, and what they can or can't consent to. You can't have it both ways: don't argue that Daval's portrayals are divorced from what you deem as "reality" and then react as though they were tied to what you deem as "reality."
Wrong. I haven't equated them at all. In fact, my argument has been trying to reinforce that the priority of personal preferences takes precedence over legal description especially as it concerns two or more parties decisions in sex.
Once again, you're trying to have your cake and eat it, too. And my opinion on this matter is as relevant as anyone else's not named Daval. The only people trying to have a dispute over legal definition are the ones who feel as though it would provide an authority to how they feel. Newsflash: it doesn't. The law has no moral priority over how a person chooses to behave their own body. Repeating what the law states is no different than stating "this person said this..." Hence, my Emir anecdote.
And as far as the differences between Patreon and Subscribestar, you're only making my point on how depictions being "okay" here, and not "there" is just arbitrary.
"Marital rape"? Daniel and Lana aren't married. And the term rape doesn't need a modifier.
But you're going to try...
Called it.
The protections for "consent" especially in the countries you've listed does everything but service autonomy. If you can have a law that states that a person cannot provide consent to an act even if they've done so before, or after the fact, then autonomy is already out of the window. It's more so about protecting the image and interests of the legislation.
Once again, you're proverbially speaking from one side of your mouth and another. If it's "just cartoons" then why not leave your statement at that? Why did you feel it necessary to regurgitate a legal description of rape? For "objectivity's" sake? Are you under the impression that I don't know what "legal rape" is? Or is it just my disagreement that has fueled your desire to be "objective"? And I'm using the term objective facetiously here because no one seems to have an interest in owning their opinions. I am giving my opinion. And so are you no matter what authority you believe citing legal definition provides it.
If you want to have a REAL debate about laws, morals, and ethics, feel free to message me.
With that said, I only entertained this post because I thought it only fair to hear you out given that I was the one who quoted you. But I meant what I said, I've grown tired of this discussion. This has taken up way too many pages, and consumed so much time. And I'm sure it's only a matter of time before some of these posts here are "cleaned up" so I won't waste more time beating a dead horse.
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Daval on SSA:
News: It's finally over!
Hello people, it's finally over, after many months a big weight is leaving me, so now I can have almost 100% of my time in comics.
I know that for 7 or 8 months the dates of the updates have not been accurate because little by little more things in my life have appeared and have taken up my time and have given me a lot of stress, but in these last days those matters are over.
What I want now is to do an update every 3 days as I did before and publish the comics before the evening, and for that I will do the update one day before, I will finish it, but I will publish it the next day to have updates in reserve. Tomorrow I will start working on SN but I don't promise to publish it tomorrow, I will publish it on Friday and I will use that system for the other updates this month.
This month I will do the updates you see in the picture, but in June I will do every 3 or 2 days. Many have been supporting me for years and others have left, but I don't blame them, my mind was elsewhere: friends, family, girlfriends, my house, gym, and I had a disorganized life, but now I will have much more time.
Another thing is that every day I receive messages on Discord, Twitter, SubscribeStar, Boosty, etc. Messages of support, complaints, proposals to make collaborations with other artists, etc. and handling that alone is overwhelming, that's why it took a long time to respond, but now with more organization I will respond much faster.
Next month I'll be back with the cover contests and I'll do all the ones I'm missing. And I will also be able to fulfill to make commissions that I have dozens of people who have asked me for personalized pages.
Thank you for your support.
News: It's finally over!
Hello people, it's finally over, after many months a big weight is leaving me, so now I can have almost 100% of my time in comics.
I know that for 7 or 8 months the dates of the updates have not been accurate because little by little more things in my life have appeared and have taken up my time and have given me a lot of stress, but in these last days those matters are over.
What I want now is to do an update every 3 days as I did before and publish the comics before the evening, and for that I will do the update one day before, I will finish it, but I will publish it the next day to have updates in reserve. Tomorrow I will start working on SN but I don't promise to publish it tomorrow, I will publish it on Friday and I will use that system for the other updates this month.
This month I will do the updates you see in the picture, but in June I will do every 3 or 2 days. Many have been supporting me for years and others have left, but I don't blame them, my mind was elsewhere: friends, family, girlfriends, my house, gym, and I had a disorganized life, but now I will have much more time.
Another thing is that every day I receive messages on Discord, Twitter, SubscribeStar, Boosty, etc. Messages of support, complaints, proposals to make collaborations with other artists, etc. and handling that alone is overwhelming, that's why it took a long time to respond, but now with more organization I will respond much faster.
Next month I'll be back with the cover contests and I'll do all the ones I'm missing. And I will also be able to fulfill to make commissions that I have dozens of people who have asked me for personalized pages.
Thank you for your support.
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Edit: Some of those pages are AI upscaled. There's a Mega link in the thread from a different user, that might have them in their original res.
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95bits
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No, it is not, the images are rescaled with AI from a lower resolution than the original.
sstrangemd
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Oh I thought we were talking about resolution not whether or not some were upscaled, I mentioned that in another post I made with every chapter included. Should've said that, my bad. You're talking about pages 92-131 right?
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ToWhomItMayConcern69
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You're wrong, and it's quite funny that you think you're not.
There is no objective harm? This is moral relativism taken to the extreme. You're arguing that because everyone is a "subject", objectivity doesn't exist, which is both philosophically lazy and factually wrong.
Laws exist precisely because we live in a society of individuals with differing values. Harm is measurable: trauma, power imbalance, coercion, and inability to consent are not "feelings", they are legal and psychological realities. Not all laws are just a collection of feelings. Saying so is like claiming that murder laws are based purely on emotion. While morality may be subjective to some extent, law is codified consensus, and in this context, it exists to protect vulnerable parties.
Daval is not Lana and Daniel. That is why you cannot make a disclaimer saying "these characters are just acting because I said so", or "they're pretending to be family but they're not", or "this character looks like a minor but she's actually a thousand-year-old vampire" and then place them in scenes involving blackmail, coercion, and rape across various platforms, not just Patreon, but Pornhub for instance and half the internet. Because it is illegal. When the law changes, you can let your moral or ethical compass guide your reaction to such content, but until then, the law is the law.
A minor-looking character is a minor-looking character. Rape is rape. Even if Lana is awake and pretending to be asleep, or even if she says it was fine afterward, there's a legal principle called "mens rea", the guilty mind, and "actus reus", the guilty act. If Daniel believes Lana is asleep, even if she is secretly awake and consenting, the fact that he thinks she is unconscious means he believes he is committing rape. That belief fulfills the mens rea component in many legal systems. The act itself fulfills the actus reus. Therefore, it is illegal. Immoral? Up to you, it's a cartoon, but it's unequivocally illegal.
Retroactive consent does not undo a non-consensual act. This is well-established across all credible legal systems.
You're trying to moralize something that is, in every jurisdiction that matters, both immoral and illegal. You can argue subjectivity all you want, but that does not hold up in law, in ethics, or in decent society.
I'm done here, honestly, and I don't understand why they would "clean it up" when we're just discussing the work in a very civilized way.
By the way, you didn't "call" anything. You simply read ahead. It was obvious I was leading into it, it's called sarcasm. Yes, the western culture is objectively and subjectively superior. How? For instance, human rights, personal freedoms, and legal protections. If your moral framework values consent, equality, freedom, and protection from abuse, then Western culture, broadly speaking, is superior in delivering those outcomes. If it doesn't, well, shame on you.
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8TB
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I appreciate your input. Any further discussion on this matter with me should be taken to private messages. I'm not invested enough to continue this, here.
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SN 14 preview pages 61 - 70 so this is going to be the threesome Daval talked about a while ago?...
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So Alexa had a threesome with Emma and Lennon?
I'll have see it first to believe because Daval always fails to deliver.