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DitaVonTease

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so i was working on lighting and iray and came up with this. A alien fighter thinking about doing more on her and asking if there is anything i can do to make this look better all ideas are welcome comments on it are all welcome aswell

I'd start with some 'Dirt & Grime' Iray decals on both her, her clothes, & the hunk pf metalwork, just behind her, maybe lower the main lighting height wise, to pick up more detail & shadows....Maybe, change the time of day to much later....maybe just before sunset....
 

Night Hacker

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I really need to save up for a better graphics card. These renders take forever lol
I have a 1050 video card and they take me around 5 mins. Turn on your denoising and you will notice a huge speed increase with the same quality.

I done two renders, one with denoising and one without. The one with denoising took me 5mins, the one without took me 45mins and when I posted them nobody could tell the difference.
 

m4dsk1llz

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56 second render! Genesis 8.1 Elly
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It took longer to clothe and pose than to render. It also took longer to load all the textures in VRAM than to render.

Please do not say denoising gives you the same quality as a full render, that simply is not true. It may be acceptable quality for posting on F95 or for relatively low resolution images but denoising is a destructive process and removes information from an image.

Fotsirk, save your pennies and when you can afford it get a better video card, it will make a world of difference. There are a lot of tricks you can learn to speed up render times without resorting to cutting off renders with a lot of noise thinking you can save it with a denoiser.
 

Night Hacker

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56 second render! Genesis 8.1 Elly
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It took longer to clothe and pose than to render. It also took longer to load all the textures in VRAM than to render.

Please do not say denoising gives you the same quality as a full render, that simply is not true. It may be acceptable quality for posting on F95 or for relatively low resolution images but denoising is a destructive process and removes information from an image.

Fotsirk, save your pennies and when you can afford it get a better video card, it will make a world of difference. There are a lot of tricks you can learn to speed up render times without resorting to cutting off renders with a lot of noise thinking you can save it with a denoiser.
I rendered the following to images using a GTX1050TI with only 4GB of VRAM (not the best card for this). One of these images took me 45mins using standard settings, no denoising. The other image only took me 5 mins using denoising. There's is ABSOLUTELY a HUGE difference! You cannot tell the difference between the two at all, yet the denoised version was MUCH MUCH faster without any quality loss. This is especially important on a low end video card like mine as you cannot denoise at all when you run out of VRAM and that makes renders MUCH MUCH slower without denoising on low end cards (or any card for that matter)...

Now which of these images was 5min and denoised, and which one took 45 mins? Look close, you may be surprised at the answer...
A:
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B:
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I rendered the following to images using a GTX1050TI with only 4GB of VRAM (not the best card for this). One of these images took me 45mins using standard settings, no denoising. The other image only took me 5 mins using denoising. There's is ABSOLUTELY a HUGE difference! You cannot tell the difference between the two at all, yet the denoised version was MUCH MUCH faster without any quality loss. This is especially important on a low end video card like mine as you cannot denoise at all when you run out of VRAM and that makes renders MUCH MUCH slower without denoising on low end cards (or any card for that matter)...

Now which of these images was 5min and denoised, and which one took 45 mins? Look close, you may be surprised at the answer...
A:
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B:
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I may be old and half blind, but I'm not seeing a difference.
 
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Fotsirk

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I rendered the following to images using a GTX1050TI with only 4GB of VRAM (not the best card for this). One of these images took me 45mins using standard settings, no denoising. The other image only took me 5 mins using denoising. There's is ABSOLUTELY a HUGE difference! You cannot tell the difference between the two at all, yet the denoised version was MUCH MUCH faster without any quality loss. This is especially important on a low end video card like mine as you cannot denoise at all when you run out of VRAM and that makes renders MUCH MUCH slower without denoising on low end cards (or any card for that matter)...

Now which of these images was 5min and denoised, and which one took 45 mins? Look close, you may be surprised at the answer...
A:
View attachment 1689570

B:
View attachment 1689571
Picture A was rendered in 5mins and denoised. You can tell when you zoom in that image A has lost some quality compared to Picture B (it's blurrier and has lost some details). Without zooming in, however, you are correct in that they are almost identical and certainly acceptable for posting here.

EDIT - I was mistaken! Picture B is actually 45 mins. So, as Night Hacker says, it really is hard to tell sometimes when something is denoised or not lol!

I appreciate your trying to help me out. I am actually using denoiser for now, but I personally think it's better to not use it if possible. And the only way to not use it is to have better hardware. I actually have a powerful desktop that I use for video editing and even started on Blender work. BUT, it has an AMD card (as a long time NVIDIA guy, I wanted to try out the competition), and unfortunately AMD GPUs are not compatible at all with Daz. Ugh.

So, all of my Daz rendering is currently being done on my laptop - which has a GTX 1070.

Currently, I do cut off renders when they reach around 90% progress, and then put it through the intel denoiser. It does depend on the scene, since some scenes are obviously way more complex and thus take longer. But there is a loss of quality when denoising because, as m4dsk1llz said, it is a destructive process. Even if it might not be noticeable at first glance. Though I think how noticeable it might be does depend on the actual model/scene/lighting too.
 
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