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VN Unity Abandoned Dead Dating [v1.2] [Ryu]

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yoyomistro

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Well, I won't go into the trans porn aspect, .

But trans males are 100% left out on the gay community (trans people in general). There is a huge part of gay culture around penis, it's size, etc. And not having one gets you out of the picture for a lot of people. The whole top/bottom penetrative situation makes it look like people don't have hands. Going back to FTM characters in adult gay games, 10 years ago we barely had any good quality games around, baby steps I guess.

As for the vaginal sex tag, I haven't found any indication of any vaginal sex in this game as of yet.
Yea exactly. Even in the straight porn community, dudes get hung up on dicks. I have to admit I hate seeing a dude with a below-average dick size in porn, feels super off-putting. And watching trans porn it's not like I ignore whatever the chick's packing either, lol. So I can only imagine it's even more the case for the gay dudes out there, based on my interactions and what I've read. But yea hopefully there's space for everybody somewhere. I've read some interesting things on views within the LGBT space and trans and bi people feeling excluded because they don't fit into the "norms" the community has established, but anyway I've gotten a bit far in the weeds for a convo about a gay game with a vaginal sex tag that apparently, does not have vaginal sex.
 
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Oh Lord. Oh My. Oh Dear. A murder mystery and sexy scenes with hot guys? has the creator of this game been digging throw my mind? This was tailored for someone like me.
 
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Well, I won't go into the trans porn aspect, .

But trans males are 100% left out on the gay community (trans people in general). There is a huge part of gay culture around penis, it's size, etc. And not having one gets you out of the picture for a lot of people. The whole top/bottom penetrative situation makes it look like people don't have hands. Going back to FTM characters in adult gay games, 10 years ago we barely had any good quality games around, baby steps I guess.

As for the vaginal sex tag, I haven't found any indication of any vaginal sex in this game as of yet.
Well that is just unfortunate, on both sides, the trans people being left out and you seeing no indication of vag sex in-game. i was really looking forward to seeing a trans character and well you know possibly doing more than just seeing them. i'm still trying it out though, i cannot resist.
 

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I always wonder if gay/bi dudes like FTM porn? As a straight dude I like MTF trans (like real trans, as well as fictional futa stuff) porn, and it's clearly popular or it wouldn't be all over the place. But I've been seeing a bit of FTM stuff the last couple years and I'm not sure if there's a demand for it at scale or it's just like dudes wanting to be in the space. Not hating or anything but from what I've seen in terms of like the psychology of porn it just doesn't translate the same way generally. Either way FTM dudes need love too obviously =P.
There's some "gay" FTM porn so I'm sure some guys are into that but it's definitely nowhere near as prevalent as MTF/futa porn is for straight guys.

On the topic of the demo it looks like the game has potential, it has a surprisingly high production value for a gay porn VN and the premise is interesting (not to mention it's nice to have a bara game with humans instead of furries once in a while). I really hope the english translation gets picked up by someone who speaks it as their first language though because the awkward dialogue diminishes an otherwise good experience.
 
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Well, I won't go into the trans porn aspect, .

But trans males are 100% left out on the gay community (trans people in general). There is a huge part of gay culture around penis, it's size, etc. And not having one gets you out of the picture for a lot of people. The whole top/bottom penetrative situation makes it look like people don't have hands. Going back to FTM characters in adult gay games, 10 years ago we barely had any good quality games around, baby steps I guess.

As for the vaginal sex tag, I haven't found any indication of any vaginal sex in this game as of yet.
I support trans people, however I like dicks, if a man doesn't have a dick we can't have the kind of sexual experiences that I'd love to share with a parter, so... sometimes expecting a man to have a penis is not just... the gay community obsessed with penis, or gay culture revolting around dicks... it's fucking natural for people that like men, to expect them to actually have male external genitals.... so yeah, transphobia is denying the existence of trans people or hate them just for being trans, but gay people not dating trans men due to their lack of biological penises is not transphobia, it's natural sexual attraction, some men like shorter partners, taller partners, fat men , slender guys, fems, mascs, big noses, small noses, hunks, chubby, bears, twinks. It's always "the gays are obsessed with penises", do straight/bi females or bi guys like dating men without penises that much?
If you are a trans man I will consider you a man, I will think of you as a man, hell I might even fall for you, but sorry I don't think I could actually get turned on by you and that doesn't make me a transphobe, same thing as straight guys not wanting to fuck men doesn't make them homophobes.
 

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I support trans people, however I like dicks, if a man doesn't have a dick we can't have the kind of sexual experiences that I'd love to share with a parter, so... sometimes expecting a man to have a penis is not just... the gay community obsessed with penis, or gay culture revolting around dicks... it's fucking natural for people that like men, to expect them to actually have male external genitals.... so yeah, transphobia is denying the existence of trans people or hate them just for being trans, but gay people not dating trans men due to their lack of biological penises is not transphobia, it's natural sexual attraction, some men like shorter partners, taller partners, fat men , slender guys, fems, mascs, big noses, small noses, hunks, chubby, bears, twinks. It's always "the gays are obsessed with penises", do straight/bi females or bi guys like dating men without penises that much?
If you are a trans man I will consider you a man, I will think of you as a man, hell I might even fall for you, but sorry I don't think I could actually get turned on by you and that doesn't make me a transphobe, same thing as straight guys not wanting to fuck men doesn't make them homophobes.
Absolutely. Anyone's physical personal sexual preferences doesn't say anything about them or their views towards other people in general. Not wanting to have sex with a fat person doesn't make you a fat-shamer. And yea, from my reading/asking I get the impression that a lot of straight women would have a hard time dating a trans man due to their not having a penis. But what ends up happening between individuals isn't even always dictated by each of those people's preferences.

That's why I kept the ask narrowly to people's views on porn, since this game has the vaginal sex tag. But again, it appears to have been erroneous. But Lompfy raised some interesting points about the culture at large, which I commented on as an aside. I personally wouldn't have any issues dating a trans woman, but I'm sure there are cis/straight guys out there that consume a lot of real trans porn or fictional futa/trans porn that wouldn't be comfortable doing that. So that's all I'm getting at, people's porn consumption.
 

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Absolutely. Anyone's physical personal sexual preferences doesn't say anything about them or their views towards other people in general. Not wanting to have sex with a fat person doesn't make you a fat-shamer. And yea, from my reading/asking I get the impression that a lot of straight women would have a hard time dating a trans man due to their not having a penis. But what ends up happening between individuals isn't even always dictated by each of those people's preferences.

That's why I kept the ask narrowly to people's views on porn, since this game has the vaginal sex tag. But again, it appears to have been erroneous. But Lompfy raised some interesting points about the culture at large, which I commented on as an aside. I personally wouldn't have any issues dating a trans woman, but I'm sure there are cis/straight guys out there that consume a lot of real trans porn or fictional futa/trans porn that wouldn't be comfortable doing that. So that's all I'm getting at, people's porn consumption.
I just don't like people generalizing shit, I would never say shit like "black community is so..." " trans community is so..." etc... so why would anyone say something so dumb and demeaning about gay community? And is it ok because nowadays in order to be woke and progressive trans > gay, because yeah, homophobia is no more!!!, that fucking comment was fucking homophobic and kinda dumb, like saying "Straight guys are obsessed with vaginas and boobs", uh... yeah... if you like women, you like their sexual characteristics...? I like men, I like penis, am I being transphobic and dick obsessed? Fucking hundreds of years suffering homophobia from straight bigots now lesbians and gays are also targeted by other LGBT people because they like penises and vaginas? WTF?
 
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I just don't like people generalizing shit, I would never say shit like "black community is so..." " trans community is so..." etc... so why would anyone say something so dumb and demeaning about gay community? And is it ok because nowadays in order to be woke and progressive trans > gay, because yeah, homophobia is no more!!!, that fucking comment was fucking homophobic and kinda dumb, like saying "Straight guys are obsessed with vaginas and boobs", uh... yeah... if you like women, you like their sexual characteristics...? I like men, I like penis, am I being transphobic and dick obsessed? Fucking hundreds of years suffering homophobia from straight bigots now lesbians and gays are also targeted by other LGBT people because they like penises and vaginas? WTF?
Are they really targeted by other LGBT people or are they targeted by so called allies who try to impress their dogma upon us?

There is nothing wrong with loving dick.
 

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Are they really targeted by other LGBT people or are they targeted by so called allies who try to impress their dogma upon us?

There is nothing wrong with loving dick.
Yes, we are targeted by toxic trans people, it's not always the straight's fault. There are toxic people among minorities too, toxic gays, lesbians, trans, even asexuals ( I knew some dudes that believe they are superior because they don't care about sex) lol. Saying gay men are transphobic for not wanting to date someone who doesn't have a penis is as toxic as saying a trans man isn't a real man due to the lack of penis.
 

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Yes, we are targeted by toxic trans people, it's not always the straight's fault. There are toxic people among minorities too, toxic gays, lesbians, trans, even asexuals ( I knew some dudes that believe they are superior because they don't care about sex) lol. Saying gay men are transphobic for not wanting to date someone who doesn't have a penis is as toxic as saying a trans man isn't a real man due to the lack of penis.
The thing is, I don't mind it when it is coming from trans people nearly as much. Because when they take an issue with the importance of male genitals in gay culture it's simply another case where they have to deal with exclusion. It just SUCKS being trans and I don't mind it that they need to vent. But when it becomes about an orthodoxy of what we are supposed to like, it's as bad as what we are escaping from the cis community.

Also rereading what you said, that is quite of a false equivalency. Calling me transphobic just gives me a false attribution. Telling a trans man they are not a man is essentially erasing them. It is an order of magnitude worse.
 
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Eduded

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Out of curiousity, anyone got a guide to unlock CG?
This is out of date but this is the full affection guide for each character:

To get the CGs not obtained by following those steps:
Pick the hand-shaped dildo in the intro scene.

Call Rex and ask to meet for drugs and then hide in a stall when you go to the park restroom and don't leave when Rex comes in for the Rex Handjob CG.

On Day 2, after either taking a short nap, look out your balcony window at the pool and then choose to go down to the pool with everyone else. Once you're there, choose to sit by yourself and then make eye contact with either Alex, Don, or Frank to get a Pool CG of each of them. (You might need 3+ Affection for this, I'm not sure.)
 

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I support trans people, however I like dicks, if a man doesn't have a dick we can't have the kind of sexual experiences that I'd love to share with a parter, so... sometimes expecting a man to have a penis is not just... the gay community obsessed with penis, or gay culture revolting around dicks... it's fucking natural for people that like men, to expect them to actually have male external genitals.... so yeah, transphobia is denying the existence of trans people or hate them just for being trans, but gay people not dating trans men due to their lack of biological penises is not transphobia, it's natural sexual attraction, some men like shorter partners, taller partners, fat men , slender guys, fems, mascs, big noses, small noses, hunks, chubby, bears, twinks. It's always "the gays are obsessed with penises", do straight/bi females or bi guys like dating men without penises that much?
If you are a trans man I will consider you a man, I will think of you as a man, hell I might even fall for you, but sorry I don't think I could actually get turned on by you and that doesn't make me a transphobe, same thing as straight guys not wanting to fuck men doesn't make them homophobes.
My point exactly.
 

xoxo1001

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Is Alexander the Kickboxer supposed to be Diego Lauzen? There's no way Karl the Fitness Model isn't Ryan Reynolds. :ROFLMAO:
 

pootin

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We do have an FTM bara in another game (in All Men Are Pigs which is supposed to come in the next couple of months I think the Instagram dude is supposed to be FTM I think?)
which character? did google this game and found nothing about a ftm. :unsure: (not my cup of tea, but hey)
but there was a hot drag queen :love:, sadly not romanceable... :cry::cry:
 
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