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Ifllslonly

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Oct 17, 2023
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Totally. I think the game is perfect the way it is.
Personally, I didn't care about the zombie scenes and liked the romance story the most. But for some reason, after the rape events are gone, I just can't bring myself to try this game a second time.

Maybe if the developer introduces some alternatives to the zombie rapes to spice things up a bit, this game will regain it's charm, something like gore for example. Or maybe some aggressive survivors who would become part of the original group with their rules.
Maybe, something like this is already in the game, I just can't tell from just looking at the patch notes.
 

Danv

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Aug 21, 2020
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i hope ending of this update and subsequent forced action in next one will lead to MC awakening his inner infected sailor moon and he finally start doing fucking something
i'm just feeling story already started crawling in circles, there so much of moon-alien-zombie edging one can take
 

Mtgwo

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Aug 28, 2017
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Personally, I didn't care about the zombie scenes and liked the romance story the most. But for some reason, after the rape events are gone, I just can't bring myself to try this game a second time.

Maybe if the developer introduces some alternatives to the zombie rapes to spice things up a bit, this game will regain it's charm, something like gore for example. Or maybe some aggressive survivors who would become part of the original group with their rules.
Maybe, something like this is already in the game, I just can't tell from just looking at the patch notes.
I got your point. I also didnt like the zombies stuff, but i do enjoy some corruption and all that.

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JustLittleTinyMe

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Oct 14, 2018
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Because there's nothing to fix. It's the opposite of what they said up there. The only shower scenes from a certain point that show up in the non lesbian path are a few renders of them just showering, nothing else. Only unavoidable stuff is part of the first shower where you enter the lesbian path or not, and a 2nd a bit later which is the last chance to enter the path if you haven't or it closes forever.
I literally just played the game from a new save, opted out of lesbian scenes at every choice yet I still got the scene where Elisabeth and Juliette are full on making out in the shower, Elisabeth then fingers Juliette and then stops and has Juliette sit behind Elisabeth and masturbate herself to the view of her ass. Only then do you get an "opt-out" which is either turn around and look at her while she masturbates or don't and let her finish. Now tell me that's not a lesbian scene without lying.
 

Ruykiru

Developing: Sinful Summer
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May 2, 2017
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I literally just played the game from a new save, opted out of lesbian scenes at every choice yet I still got the scene where Elisabeth and Juliette are full on making out in the shower, Elisabeth then fingers Juliette and then stops and has Juliette sit behind Elisabeth and masturbate herself to the view of her ass. Only then do you get an "opt-out" which is either turn around and look at her while she masturbates or don't and let her finish. Now tell me that's not a lesbian scene without lying.
Well, that might have been a bug but I checked the code and I don't see the issue. You clearly chose a lesbian choice before and saw some lesbian scenes before because this is the code for the kissing lesson scene: (with the conditional variable "lesbianon")
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To clarify, the variable can only be set to true during 3 choices in the game which are the followign:
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You must have chosen any of these at any given time, that's your answer. The variable is also set to true if you choose so inside the gallery but I coded that, and I can assure you it's only set for the particular gallery scene.
 
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JustLittleTinyMe

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Well, that might have been a bug but I checked the code and I don't see the issue. You clearly chose a lesbian choice before and saw some lesbian scenes before because this is the code for the kissing lesson scene: (with the conditional variable "lesbianon")
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To clarify, the variable can only be set to true during 3 choices in the game which are the followign:
View attachment 3386312 View attachment 3386313 View attachment 3386314
You must have chosen any of these at any given time, that's your answer. The variable is also set to true if you choose so inside the gallery but I coded that, and I can assure you it's only set for the particular gallery scene.
I know that I didn't choose any of em cause I'm personally not into lesbian porn, so I quite literally have no reason to even opt-in to any of those scenes.
 

JustLittleTinyMe

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Oct 14, 2018
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Well, that might have been a bug but I checked the code and I don't see the issue. You clearly chose a lesbian choice before and saw some lesbian scenes before because this is the code for the kissing lesson scene: (with the conditional variable "lesbianon")
View attachment 3386302
To clarify, the variable can only be set to true during 3 choices in the game which are the followign:
View attachment 3386312 View attachment 3386313 View attachment 3386314
You must have chosen any of these at any given time, that's your answer. The variable is also set to true if you choose so inside the gallery but I coded that, and I can assure you it's only set for the particular gallery scene.
I know that I didn't choose any of em cause I'm personally not into lesbian porn, so I quite literally have no reason to even opt-in to any of those scenes.
Alright I found out why it happens. At the first scene you get the choice to help her or refuse, if you refuse it stops it, however then you get a next one which is if Juliette asks Elisabeth if she's masturbates or choose not to. IF you choose to ask if she masturbates then you're hard-locked in on the lesbian route, you don't get the hard opt-out later on in the bathtub.
Idk why it's like that, personally I think that's kind of silly but it is what it is, I guess. So if a woman asks if another woman masturbates = locked in for lesbian content. :cautious:
 

Ruykiru

Developing: Sinful Summer
Game Developer
May 2, 2017
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Alright I found out why it happens. At the first scene you get the choice to help her or refuse, if you refuse it stops it, however then you get a next one which is if Juliette asks Elisabeth if she's masturbates or choose not to. IF you choose to ask if she masturbates then you're hard-locked in on the lesbian route, you don't get the hard opt-out later on in the bathtub.
Idk why it's like that, personally I think that's kind of silly but it is what it is, I guess. So if a woman asks if another woman masturbates = locked in for lesbian content. :cautious:
Told ya, code didn't lie. And yeah, I guess it's a bit abrupt to be locked just by 1 choice, but there's a choice and not unavoidable dialogue there for a reason...
 

JustLittleTinyMe

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Oct 14, 2018
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Told ya, code didn't lie. And yeah, I guess it's a bit abrupt to be locked just by 1 choice, but there's a choice and not unavoidable dialogue there for a reason...
True, it's just a silly option that locks you in for it. I wouldn't be surprised if others ended up doing the same when trying to opt-out of it, especially since the masturbation question doesn't have a label that implies it locks you in for that route, like the next one in the bathtub does.
 

CutieLvr

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Jun 3, 2020
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Here is what the dev wrote about the 'NTR' that was removed (violent zombie sex).

Those who simply call it NTR like it is some vanilla content are being a bit disingenuous... ;)

I've highlighted some of what IMO are important points made by the dev:

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So - these scenes were a mistake by the dev who decided to tell his story using other story mechanics/renders.

We get more story content because the dev is not focused on catering to an unusual fetish And the dev's creativity is not negatively impacted trying to add scenes that are no longer part of his vision for the story He created and is telling.

The dev was honest with us and shared his reasoning for this change.

Pledges were paused the month this message came out and those who supported with $ And disagreed with the dev's decision got to request a refund for the prior month.

A perfect solution - No - but, IMO, a much better solution than the dev eventually abandoning this story because his heart was no longer in the telling of this story.
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Yes - there are people on this thread that disagree with this decision, and some continue to camp here, railing against the dev's decision.

I'm not one of them.

I'm happy I found this AVN and I became a $ supporter after the violent zombie sex was removed due to the dev's choice to take his AVN in a different direction.

I am here for the story and the evolution of the relationships, including the mystery represented by the MC - which is slowly being revealed.

Yes - violent zombie sex NTR is still NTR, the same way a tentacle monster or vampire having sex with Elizabeth would be NTR, but it is not central to the telling of this story and, per the dev, actually makes less and less sense as the MC builds his abilities to defend the women in his life.

If anyone is curious what all the fuss is about, the older version is still posted on page one of this thread under 'Old Build.'

I am enjoying v 0.8 and am looking forward to more of the city/world reveals that we are getting the further we get into the story.

Cheers!! :coffee:
Well said, my friend. I liked that. But, calling zombie or slime sex NTR, is just plain silly.
 

Incombat

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Apr 27, 2017
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my new favorite zombie apocalypse game since Kindred: Redburns seems to have died :cry: . Nice incest character writing, loved how how all "bad end" fails have their variations shown, not just generic game over screen. You can see unique results of a fuckup at any point of qte, very nice touch. Main plot can go either way, but character writing is on par with Now and Then
 

PaxHadrian17

Engaged Member
Sep 8, 2020
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I didn't understand why the "ntr" scenes had been removed then I saw the author's explanation$, what a disappointment.

I delete this game from my list

RUINED
Not all the NTR scenes were removed, just the ones that no longer supported the dev's vision for his AVN.

Did you like the Elizabeth NTR scenes with other survivors early in the apocalypse?

I thought these were well done and they make sense re: the story and the direction the dev is going with his AVN.

If losing zombie sex scenes associated with game over choices is the make-or-break decision for this AVN for you, then GL finding other AVNs in this genre that do the zombie apocalypse better (and have zombie sex NTR).

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

K.T.L.

Keeping Families Together
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Mar 5, 2019
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Pity that every decision that leads to your family's death half a day down the line is accompanied by a timer that rushes you into making that decision without thinking...
 

Kitiuuu

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and how will this version end, that his bakery was killed by a monster, his mother was torn apart, that's all, now the franchise 3 will be the sister herself playing the main role in the game and she will become Lara Croft the zombie slayer :ROFLMAO::BootyTime::KEK:
 
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