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Personally, I am here to discuss games. This is a VN, what do you want from VN other than visuals and story?
Why people tend to have a need to lower the quality plank for no reason, justifying it with something like: "It's just a hobby", "It's just a movie", "It's just a game", "You name it". I don't know, "It's just a food," so let's eat some dirt then and see how it goes.
Has anyone said anything about visuals for example? Not really.
So I don't understand "multimillion dollar blockbuster about the zombie" take.
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can be helped by giving the mother a contrasting mindset, for example. So she will continue to act like their mother who is just trying to keep her kids from fucking each other. That way she won't get off by fucking her kids, but by something else like "enter fetish here".
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That's alright, but I just see some people complaining about certain things because they skipped over the many dialogues and interesting/emotional conversations, or because they can't have some suspension of disbelief for the sake of enjoying the well written incest build up, and it makes me a bit confused.
Hmm, I've played my share of VNs and I can't name more than 3 that have a well developed and kinda believable incest plotline like this one, so I think Elisabeth's been struggling long enough and their peculiar situation has been explained enough times. Dwelling more on that will just make it boring. Now their scenes are truly ramping up and starting to get to the action.
I didn't really mean that she shouldn't fuck them, only that she shouldn't enjoy it so that her character can work as the contrast / barrier.
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Interesting, I don't think that'll be a thing but
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I played 0.5 after after 0.8 just to see what all the fuss is about with zombie NTR scenes. And yes, Elizabeth getting bonked by the horde and the licker vs Julliete secret bad ends were kinda hot, but the script was literally the same otherwise. In 0.8 you just get violent death scenes instead of sex scenes if you fuck up at those parts, that's it. Nothing else was cut, and I think some renders/angles were improved(this one might be subjective). So I think it's just standard "memories colored by impression" deal going here with returning players. Edit: Ah, yes, and I forgot the short MC's suicide attempt that is stopped by Elizabeth and never talked about again after the first NTR scene. That was nice touch by the dev, considering MC's obsession with "protecting the family", but it ultimately didn't change his character at all
I understand moving away from zombie sex , especially if one doesn't enjoy making them. Elizabeth being able to walk away after those, without an inkling of infection or mutation, seemed like a plothole to me. And an attempt to lore-build zombies rapidly mutating to become sex freaks instead of cannibalistic felt kinda forced. With such drastic degree of mutation, one would have to make a game about sentient zombies instead by the end. Or remake the whole apocalypse setting from the ground up, so that sex property is inherent from the start in the virus, but it would change the tone drastically (with fucking going on everywhere and whole lot more of survivors) .
I'd rather dev focus on humans instead(there's still plenty of ugly bastard ntr potential there, if someone were to bankroll the scenes
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I think the bigger plothole is that it wasn't talked about much after. There were some extra dialogue lines yes, but it should've had a bigger impact or branched the storyline in a big way which wasn't really feasible for the dev.
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yes, I just edited my post to mention that suicide attempt scene. In the end, it was obvious that NTR scenes are considered non-canon. And with how characters are well fleshed out already, dev would have to rewrite and branch out whole lot of shit to properly write post-NTR changes. I think it would be fine to do those with spin-offs instead, like Power Vacuum did, if "market" demand is strong enough.
Though focusing on main game first is preferable for me, I know first-hand how market demand can suck all the creative juices right out of you if you don't enjoy the theme
I don't have a problem with zombie rape being removed from the game, but your statement that "...brain-dead zombies can still rape at all was silly to me" is also silly insofar as it doesn't support its possible existence of zombies is not in question.
So if there is a virus that kills a person, that is, wipes out his conscious actions and causes his body to rot, but at the same time preserves the brain functions to the extent that the zombie can see, hear and walk purposefully; So if you assume that something like this is possible, then you also have to allow the idea that a rudimentary sexual drive could be preserved.
Let's leave aside the fact that the man's "soft parts" would certainly rot and fall off first, making rape in the traditional sense impossible, if you allow zombies in a story that have evolved, these creatures would then allow sexual interaction.
Again, I don't want this part of the story to come back! But I can imagine a zombie sex drive integrated into a framework story. As I wrote above, I could even explain it “logically”. But what I definitely don't want is for rape to come back into the game for the sole purpose of generating money.
For anyone who regrets this, there are enough games in which the protagonist only exists to be raped by monsters and zombies.
but at that point are they even zombies? like if you want to get raped by zombies, just do a hyper aggression virus or a zombie like mutation...but a shambling corpse with skin melting off and missing body parts still having both the brain function and blood enough to have sex....again just dosent seem like a zombie at that point
I replied to your post and just added another thought.
A serious discussion about the scientific aspects of the existence of zombies is pointless. But in the fantastic world of stories, everything is possible and a clever storyteller can provide rudimentary (scientific) reasons for some of it and incorporate it into his story.
As I said, it could have been told differently, but it wasn't intended that way and that means the topic is over - final.
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I'm with you on "this is just [whatever]" defense doesn't really fly for people who are invested in the subject. Never turn down constructive criticism if it comes form a place of love (which is as rare as good writing in adult games
) , and you definitely offer that and raise a good point about mother's mindset. While the teenagers are completely understandable: apocalypse, isolation for few years, hormones, no internet or porn around... Yeah, I would commend them already on not being risky with raw sex.It would be interesting for Mom, however, to be able to handle her libido (though she is quite a closet perv, if you see the flashbacks), considering she got access to other survivors and, I don't know, some secret hideout near an adult store she could've made for herself when she's out on the runs. Like you said, so ultimately she's just trying to keep them off of each other.
Stuff like anal scene(to not frustrate players with too much build up) can have exacerbating factors for lapse in judgement, not her just being horny. Like booze , or maybe fever delirium and her mixing up mc with the late father .
The gate unleashed moment can be after some big event, where she starts seeing her son as more of a man and less of a kid to take care off. What do you think would work for that? Personal moment of helplessness ->inspiring save ->suspension bridge effect. Maybe something like capture by slavers(also nice to have "non-damaged goods for better price" excuse ), captivity to the point of desperation, mc comes saves the day, being helped by dog and his good memory/perceptiveness to track her down?
They did that "reaffirming love crush" moment for Juliette when he was talking about his dreams after licker save, so I'm expecting something like that for Elizabeth too anyway.
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no he did NOT put them back in, he's way more interested in it being a 3 way fairy-tail incest love story
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Rape is not NTR (be it by humans or zombies)
NTR is in flashbacks with the mom, and maybe in the future
welcome to deadmoon bud, your gonna stay confused with the way this guy does shit
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