VN Ren'Py DeadMoon Survival [v0.9.1] [Hot Tomato]

[Darreau91]

Many people aren't interested in apocalyptic worlds. Very simplistic renderings and animations. But what really discouraged me was the walls of text, cliché texts, boring MC, a lot of time between one sex scene and another, and most of them without animation.

When I say that this game is just another cliché game, it's not so much the developer's fault, but incest games have already saturated the market, and I was once a big fan of this genre, but always seeing the same scenes, the same dialogues (changing a sentence here and there), but deep down it's all the same thing. There comes a time when it gets boring, it loses its charm. I used to be a big hater of NTR games, I even got banned from here because of several fights. And today, the theme I'm looking for is precisely NTR (although the vast majority of games on this theme are crap). It was something I found to keep playing, since incest games have become a ctrl-c - ctrl-v of each other.

Well that’s a load a dung considering one of the top games here is Desert Stalker, an apocalyptic game with incest depending on how you define things. Now and Then was also a pretty big success.

My personal opinion on why this game didn’t pop was Tomato catered to one set of fans that were ticked off then ticked off the die hards. Then he had bleed from both fanbase. Slow burn and long dev times also contribute. Nothing to do with the setting.

That’s a you problem mate. It’s not any Devs problem you got burned out on a genre. As an avid mom son incest lover, I can tell you with great confidence this type of mom son story isn’t common place in the AVN world. Good build up and relationship building is very rare. Especially in the honey select realm of AVNs, a AVN world dominated by weird Daz faces.

 

[Xypher]

"nOthInG eLsE is NeDeEd"
What takes more, waiting for a simple daz scene with 10 renders about dick in vag (like it usually goes in your average incest novel where erotic scenes last 0.1 picoseconds), or to make something like this below and turn it into a coherent fight scene with like another 300 more renders.

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I don't mind reading the silly comments by the haters but yours is just... to put it lightly, stupid and ignorant as fuck. And yes, it really pissed me off more than the actual haters if you hadn't noticed already. HS2 might not need minutes or hours to render, but it's still not drag and drop ffs. Armchair devs I swear...

Please ignore the stupid and toxic comments, not everyone here share the same toxic sentiment. We really appreciate your work even if it isn't perfect.

We really hope the dev returns and doing okay. Kudos for trying to keep the game alive.

 

[Immoral Player]

Now & Then is the game you seek.... I would suggest giving it a look.

I gave it multiple tries and the furthest I've gotten to is the part

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and the story was just not captivating imo so i started skipping text and eventually dropped it after a few more characters appeared.

 

[Overlord070]

Sorry to go against your opinion, but I believe it's the opposite of what you mentioned, and I think it's exactly because of the lack of these features you mentioned that it failed to hook the public.
I don't want to be a troll or a stalker, but this game lacked a lot of eroticism.
My opinion (and I believe that of the many people who also didn't support the game).
We live busy lives, with almost no time for fun and passing the time. And there are countless games here and elsewhere. Games that border on photorealism, renderings bordering on realism, perfect animations that are beautiful to watch.
I was a big fan of Honey Select and Koikatsu, the latter I don't even waste my time watching anymore. I still follow some of Honey Select, since some developers managed to take this engine to the limit.
But back to the game in question. Many people aren't interested in apocalyptic worlds. Very simplistic renderings and animations. But what really discouraged me was the walls of text, cliché texts, boring MC, a lot of time between one sex scene and another, and most of them without animation.
They mentioned another apocalyptic world game (Now & Then), in my opinion, superior to this one in every aspect, not to mention the absurd amount of animations.
Man, developers need to stop making female masturbation scenes, all games abuse it. I even think it's cool, but this market is already saturated with it. I personally skip all these scenes, it's become extremely boring and repetitive.
When I say that this game is just another cliché game, it's not so much the developer's fault, but incest games have already saturated the market, and I was once a big fan of this genre, but always seeing the same scenes, the same dialogues (changing a sentence here and there), but deep down it's all the same thing. There comes a time when it gets boring, it loses its charm. I used to be a big hater of NTR games, I even got banned from here because of several fights. And today, the theme I'm looking for is precisely NTR (although the vast majority of games on this theme are crap). It was something I found to keep playing, since incest games have become a ctrl-c - ctrl-v of each other.

Sorry for using the reply to your comment to express myself here.

Interesting that you went from a so called ctrl-c ctrl-v incest settings to ntr since those are always the same lol
It sounds like you just burned out on the genre, it has nothing to do with this setting imo. Someone has already pointed out Desert Stalker, which has both incest and apocalyptic settings and I'd bet if kindred dev came back people would flock to it as well.

Imo what probably hurt the dev the most was the beginning of the story, mc is too annoying at the start and it could do with a bit more action. Doesn't help that this had "ntr" scenes before the dev changed it which probably drove incest fans to ignore it at the beginning as well.

 

[strenif]

With Honey Select 2 Studio you don't need rendering, it's not DAZ3D. In the Studio you just arrange the characters, place the stage, put the lighting if necessary and take the capture and that's it, nothing else is needed, you don't have to wait any rendering time as you do with other 3D design engines.

Wow. That is by far... the dumbest thing I've read all day.

As someone who works in DAZ3D, rendering is just pressing a button.
The hard part is everything else.

 

[Soulpuppet]

I checked Sinful summer and now I understand why the lesbian thing ruin this game, it is true that this isn't made by dev, now I understand also why the story of this game was influenced because the dev of that Sinful summer was a co-writer, well if I am playing Sinful summer and as a female protagonist, I don't mind the G to G action, but in this game hell no, I am playing as a male !

Yep should of seen it coming from this certain dev. They have a thing for Lesbian incest and putting the Male MC in the back. Fucking sucks. Oh well game is dead.

 

[Kame-Sennin]

Ah shit, here we go again... I should stop reading these shitty takes for my own sanity.

You seem like a person who literally sees Juliet act like this in game (if you even played it):
"I wish my brother was with us but the situation is complicated because we are both having a secret relationship with Mom. There's nothing more I would like than for us all to engage in naughty incest as a family because I love my relatives so fucking much and they are the only thing I have left in this shitty world, the only thing that let me cope with everything instead of throwing myself off the first building I see."

And yet, after all that, proceed to still cry about lesbian 'NTR' or whatever that acronym means anymore in this thread. Inspiring. I wish I was that smart and had such a great ability to understand characters and their motivations in complex stories.

I don't care about what sister thinks, and why do you think , sis is the only rival that you see here, won't mc see mom as rival too if he wants both? you see, I don't have anything against anyone having this fetish but atleast the point is it would have been much better if there is a way to avoid this

 

[Kame-Sennin]

Yep should of seen it coming from this certain dev. They have a thing for Lesbian incest and putting the Male MC in the back. Fucking sucks. Oh well game is dead.

If it's only going that route yeah I agree this better been dead, this is the only game that has these zombie theme and survival , dystopian, where the MC seems like the loser, compare to others like Now & Then, Zombie life, Zombie retreat (there was a bit lesbian but completely avoidable) and what frustrating is that it was abandoned before Mc could get all the way with both mom and sis and the final scene is between the two of them that he was not able to go all the way with. Well, hands down, I give up, ntr/lesbian fans won

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I enjoy Deadmoon Survival.

We got lucky and, even with the primary dev who disappeared (and hopefully is alive and recovering versus dead from an accident) - we got most of the latest rev (thanks Ruykiru ).

It was not perfect.

IMO - it was in keeping with the story buildup - great fight scenes and reveals about some of the past of the MC and Juliet.

We got great sexy time between Elizabeth and Juliet - something consistent with this story and its buildup.

It was incomplete and we did not get the Elizabeth/MC sexy time many of us wanted.

There has also been the buildup to what felt like a reveal where the MC, ELizabeth and Juliet would be together.

Together to celebrate survival, escape into a safer location or something else -- barring a return of the dev, we will never know his intended ending.

I've had other AVNs I enjoyed that went into limbo hell and the promised release with teasers over 6+ months never landed.

This feels like the end of Deadmoon Survival - and I'll take this as a better result to close out my experience with this AVN.

It was certainly not everything I wanted in this rev... But - this is a much better close out of this AVN than:

The dev disappears (who know what happened to him)
The AVN gets an Abandoned tag
People complain about the 'ghosting and milking' - all while not knowing what actually happened to the dev.
A year and more later - there are posts here where some lament that this AVN never got finished and wished they could have seen more.

This way - we did get more, and for me, this closes out my Deadmoon Survival experience.

GL all and remember to use your search function - there is other great content out there.

Cheers!!

 

[Chris2041]

Ah shit, here we go again... I should stop reading these shitty takes for my own sanity.

You seem like a person who literally sees Juliet act like this in game (if you even played it):
"I wish my brother was with us but the situation is complicated because we are both having a secret relationship with Mom. There's nothing more I would like than for us all to engage in naughty incest as a family because I love my relatives so fucking much and they are the only thing I have left in this shitty world, the only thing that let me cope with everything instead of throwing myself off the first building I see."

And yet, after all that, proceed to still cry about lesbian 'NTR' or whatever that acronym means anymore in this thread. Inspiring. I wish I was that smart and had such a great ability to understand characters and their motivations in complex stories.

dude a lot of the hate would be avoided if you make the lesbian scene optional like the original creator HotTomato originally make it , it isnt that hard everyone has his kinks some peoples likes some things some dislike others is okay i like for example femboys but a lot of people dislike it and thats okay too imagine if i come in a already very advance game and introduce a unavoidable femboy scene in a game that it was avoidable how the people that was avoid that path feel .thinka bout it

 

[meme_Lordo]

dude a lot of the hate would be avoided if you make the lesbian scene optional like the original creator HotTomato originally make it , it isnt that hard everyone has his kinks some peoples likes some things some dislike others is okay i like for example femboys but a lot of people dislike it and thats okay too imagine if i come in a already very advance game and introduce a unavoidable femboy scene in a game that it was avoidable how the people that was avoid that path feel .thinka bout it

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[RG80100]

dude a lot of the hate would be avoided if you make the lesbian scene optional like the original creator HotTomato originally make it , it isnt that hard everyone has his kinks some peoples likes some things some dislike others is okay i like for example femboys but a lot of people dislike it and thats okay too imagine if i come in a already very advance game and introduce a unavoidable femboy scene in a game that it was avoidable how the people that was avoid that path feel .thinka bout it

the guy pulls out what he's got to please and you're there to fall all over him. It's good enough to have a third party who gives at least that much, but no, it's still not good, he should have recoded when he's got his own game to worry about...
And use your brain a little, it says in the changelog that the only new H Scene is between Juliet and her mother...

 

[angela_luzmala]

Wow. That is by far... the dumbest thing I've read all day.

As someone who works in DAZ3D, rendering is just pressing a button.
The hard part is everything else.

You don't know how to read or what? I said Honey Select 2 Studio you don't need to render, now with other engines you do, but with the Honey Select 2 game studio which is the one this novel is made with you don't need to render anything.

 

[Chris2041]

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pls if you dont are gonna have a interest answer dont respond me you dont have to send me a picture of yourself

 

[angela_luzmala]

"nOthInG eLsE is NeDeEd"
What takes more, waiting for a simple daz scene with 10 renders about dick in vag (like it usually goes in your average incest novel where erotic scenes last 0.1 picoseconds), or to make something like this below and turn it into a coherent fight scene with like another 300 more renders.

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I don't mind reading the silly comments by the haters but yours is just... to put it lightly, stupid and ignorant as fuck. And yes, it really pissed me off more than the actual haters if you hadn't noticed already. HS2 might not need minutes or hours to render, but it's still not drag and drop ffs. Armchair devs I swear...

I use the studios of both games, I make my own game. Don't try to be a great creator, because I know it's not complicated. You want to make it look harder than it is. But okay, you don't want criticism, continue as you like, continue as you have until now, but you see that many people don't like your narrative, because it's not what they liked at first, you're deviating from your tastes and not what the majority liked, continue as you have until now, and you'll see that you'll continue receiving criticism as you have until now. When nobody likes what you do in the end... who will play this? You ruined a narrative and story in favor of your tastes, and that's okay, there are some who like it, a new audience I suppose, but those of us who have been playing this game since the beginning don't like it anymore.

 

[Chris2041]

the guy pulls out what he's got to please and you're there to fall all over him. It's good enough to have a third party who gives at least that much, but no, it's still not good, he should have recoded when he's got his own game to worry about...
And use your brain a little, it says in the changelog that the only new H Scene is between Juliet and her mother...

i like lesbian scenes but i put myself in the shoes on the people that dosent like this kind of content i liked the update but like i say before a lot of this discussion could be avoided if he make the scene optional for the people that dont liked lesbian content you know how the original creatos was making the game .
Maybe you are the one that had to use your barin before aswer to people and insult them but that would mean be a normal functional person in a forum that people have different opinions but nowdays the people act if you dont have the same opinion than them you are the worst piece of trash i blame this thinking to the woke left wing shit.

 

[Shinlaw]

This game has the hottest lesbian incest I've ever seen, even if mc is not avoidable.

This update sure is a shocker though, I really hope a miracle will happen and the project will be finished somehow. Idk about the main story line without the original author, but at least some sexy scenes to wrap it up would be great. It'd be a shame to waste all this build-up and "slowburn".

 

[Ruykiru]

Yep should of seen it coming from this certain dev. They have a thing for Lesbian incest and putting the Male MC in the back. Fucking sucks. Oh well game is dead.

Except in my novel the MC has actually done way more with his sister than with his mother...
I guess the loud minority of haters are the best at spreading misinformation. I mean, it's kinda expected of people whose only purpose is to spread the most toxic shit there is. Man, for all I know the actual dev is dead. I don't really want to get mad here, but it's like you insensitive bastards are fucking trying really REALLY hard.

 

[yokai watch]

Android version of 0.9 ?

 

[Ruykiru]

dude a lot of the hate would be avoided if you make the lesbian scene optional like the original creator HotTomato originally make it , it isnt that hard everyone has his kinks some peoples likes some things some dislike others is okay i like for example femboys but a lot of people dislike it and thats okay too imagine if i come in a already very advance game and introduce a unavoidable femboy scene in a game that it was avoidable how the people that was avoid that path feel .thinka bout it

What part of the dev is gone, and I turned the last part into a kinetic novel with what I consider canon choices to make it easier for me to at least give it an ending if I ever decided to do so, did you not understand in the disclaimers?

Also if you play the game again and pay attention, you might notice that even if the lesbian or Elisabeth flashback cheating scenes are not shown if you don't pick them, they are clearly implied to still happen or the story and sexual tension kinda makes no sense... I always saw the choices in DMS as a compromise to give the illusion of choice (except the ones that actually lead to game over scenes I guess), but making a non kinetic novel is hard and way more time consuming so not even HotTomato could tie all loose ends.