VN Ren'Py DeadMoon Survival [v0.9.1] [Hot Tomato]

[Heff_Wulf]

The scenes did have to be there, but according to what the Dev said the intention was to make them disappear as the MC grew in power. At some point they would cease to exist entirely.

Actually, according to him, he removed the scenes because people were focusing too much on them and not on what he considered important. That is, he removed the scenes because of comments from people who liked those scenes.

And I am one of those who preferred that they existed (although not for the same reason that you and others have)

It's just the motivation is a bit off if 'Monster Rape' was getting in the way of something I would guess that would be the "Story" but if that was the case then all of the porn would get in the way, the game is structured as a "Kinetic Novel" so having it as a forbidden romance story in the zombie apocalypse with a bit of porn in the end or the realization that your relationship will not end well (inbred babies) would make more sense.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

It's just the motivation is a bit off if 'Monster Rape' was getting in the way of something I would guess that would be the "Story" but if that was the case then all of the porn would get in the way, the game is structured as a "Kinetic Novel" so having it as a forbidden romance story in the zombie apocalypse with a bit of porn in the end or the realization that your relationship will not end well (inbred babies) would make more sense.

I like how the story is unfolding. Sure, I found it more interesting before, when I could avoid the rape scenes, but the main part, in my opinion, of the story is still there.

 

[Ruykiru]

I've been using your script and it's been great, I haven't finished yet but wanted to give you the congrats before I forget since it's well done. Hope to see you update this in case the dev decides not to incorporate it into the VN.

Also it's fine to believe it is the hottest thing around, as long as you aren't a paid shill your opinion is as valid as anyone else's and as long as you keep in mind nothing is perfect and improvements can always be made there is nothing bad about feeling proud about your work.

I'm glad you like it, and sure, I'm always up for some feedback! Actually I changed some things in the script in the past because I asked for feedback to some people, including the dev, and now even to AIs that understand text much better than us, crazy world right? I know I'm not perfect and I'm also not a native speaker so I welcome every piece of feedback with open arms.

 

[ju1zzed]

is there going to be any penetration in the next 5 years?

maybe after the ramaster and remake?

 

[mulerider]

The scenes did have to be there, but according to what the Dev said the intention was to make them disappear as the MC grew in power. At some point they would cease to exist entirely.

Actually, according to him, he removed the scenes because people were focusing too much on them and not on what he considered important. That is, he removed the scenes because of comments from people who liked those scenes.

And I am one of those who preferred that they existed (although not for the same reason that you and others have)

Well I might have been wrong about the story plot it self, I was under the impression that for once
we had a dev/writer that was thinking and writing a story that was different and unique that's never
been done before, unlike those worthless idiots in Hollywood that never come up with anything new.

I was thinking it was basically a war between two enemies/tribes/clans, :: the living VS the undead/halfdead,
with both sides living in a very screwed up world, trying to do the same thing, both sides trying to live,
survive, reproduce, and repopulate to make their clan/tribe bigger, better and stronger.

Which is why the zombies were killing the males and breeding the females, and if they were to breed the
right female, they would get a special zombie out of her, which would help their group out even better.

"IF" that would have been the case, then yes those scenes did and should be in the VN/story because there
is no way any woman in her right mind would willingly have sex with a zombie.

So YOU are wrong when accusing me of having a rape fetish, I only like rape scenes when they are needed
and called for, not just for bullshit crap to look at.

 

[jamiehmcw91]

Well I might have been wrong about the story plot it self, I was under the impression that for once
we had a dev/writer that was thinking and writing a story that was different and unique that's never
been done before, unlike those worthless idiots in Hollywood that never come up with anything new.

I was thinking it was basically a war between two enemies/tribes/clans, :: the living VS the undead/halfdead,
with both sides living in a very screwed up world, trying to do the same thing, both sides trying to live,
survive, reproduce, and repopulate to make their clan/tribe bigger, better and stronger.

Which is why the zombies were killing the males and breeding the females, and if they were to breed the
right female, they would get a special zombie out of her, which would help their group out even better.

"IF" that would have been the case, then yes those scenes did and should be in the VN/story because there
is no way any woman in her right mind would willingly have sex with a zombie.

So YOU are wrong when accusing me of having a rape fetish, I only like rape scenes when they are needed
and called for, not just for bullshit crap to look at.

there is no breeding in this game tho

 

[mulerider]

there is no breeding in this game tho

there was before it all got deleted and changed/rewritten

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Well I might have been wrong about the story plot it self, I was under the impression that for once
we had a dev/writer that was thinking and writing a story that was different and unique that's never
been done before, unlike those worthless idiots in Hollywood that never come up with anything new.

I was thinking it was basically a war between two enemies/tribes/clans, :: the living VS the undead/halfdead,
with both sides living in a very screwed up world, trying to do the same thing, both sides trying to live,
survive, reproduce, and repopulate to make their clan/tribe bigger, better and stronger.

Which is why the zombies were killing the males and breeding the females, and if they were to breed the
right female, they would get a special zombie out of her, which would help their group out even better.

From what the Dev commented, it doesn't seem that the story went that way.

"IF" that would have been the case, then yes those scenes did and should be in the VN/story because there
is no way any woman in her right mind would willingly have sex with a zombie.

So YOU are wrong when accusing me of having a rape fetish, I only like rape scenes when they are needed
and called for, not just for bullshit crap to look at.

I don't know what your reason is for liking those scenes, but mine is purely because I like to avoid rapes. I don't care who does them, I like to actively prevent them from happening, and that's why I liked them there. I'm pretty sure I'm still right in saying that's not why you liked those scenes in the game.

 

[Andeddo]

all this drama is too good to miss out, damn
wonder, if i should post my shit opinion as well, just make it more dramatic... or just shitpost, dunno, depends on how recieved it would be

just need some research

 

[Andeddo]

thing is, (i know i suck, just bear with me here)
monster sex scenes were unique and added flavour to the game
and so is NTR
how?
Why?!
stakes
consequences of your actions, even if shortlived ones
would have worked even better, if those choices had rollback block, imo, or you actually lived and continued playthrough with shit choices you've done (which was in many zombie rapes of Mom, just it didn't had any longterm problems or effects, even if they were described in all zombie discussions that were made before).
"You fucked up, live with it", while seeing characters being raped or dying. it's harsh world you making, there is no incest ponies.
and now it all got cut
not replaced by more tame, but still satysfying situation, not reworked or remade, just cut. you don't even see someone dying, it's just black screen. Zombie drama just shifted from being a setting to a background, leaving incest a sole kink to get you through the game.
it reminds me of Walking Dead or TLOU series, and how it all got turned from zombie drama to drama with few maybe zombies
and this is sad
not the fact that i enjoyed monster sex or death by zombies that much, but because it could have been good plot instrument, that was taken out, and not replaced with anything worthy.
You know nothing bad would happen to characters, you know, that second you fuck up, your roll back few slides and choose different thing, you know that MC will always be edgy chad, that would save everyone.
it wont be a problem to new players, dont get me wrong, but i, as 0.1 player, would miss this potential
and i completely understand reasoning for removal, if it was, indeed, a change in vision, and not rush for bigger vanilla community and market
and i assume there wont be really ntr from here on out, until it would be scrapped completely
it's just, to me, that game lost a bit of uniqueness to it, possibility and potential, and it would take a further releases to change my mind again and prove me wrong
because, rn, to me, it's just became copy of Kindread: The Redburns, just like it was to me on 0.1, with more edgyness and Chosen One trope

 

[dolfe67]

thing is, (i know i suck, just bear with me here)
monster sex scenes were unique and added flavour to the game
and so is NTR
how?
Why?!
stakes
consequences of your actions, even if shortlived ones
would have worked even better, if those choices had rollback block, imo, or you actually lived and continued playthrough with shit choices you've done (which was in many zombie rapes of Mom, just it didn't had any longterm problems or effects, even if they were described in all zombie discussions that were made before).
"You fucked up, live with it", while seeing characters being raped or dying. it's harsh world you making, there is no incest ponies.
and now it all got cut
not replaced by more tame, but still satysfying situation, not reworked or remade, just cut. you don't even see someone dying, it's just black screen. Zombie drama just shifted from being a setting to a background, leaving incest a sole kink to get you through the game.
it reminds me of Walking Dead or TLOU series, and how it all got turned from zombie drama to drama with few maybe zombies
and this is sad
not the fact that i enjoyed monster sex or death by zombies that much, but because it could have been good plot instrument, that was taken out, and not replaced with anything worthy.
You know nothing bad would happen to characters, you know, that second you fuck up, your roll back few slides and choose different thing, you know that MC will always be edgy chad, that would save everyone.
it wont be a problem to new players, dont get me wrong, but i, as 0.1 player, would miss this potential
and i completely understand reasoning for removal, if it was, indeed, a change in vision, and not rush for bigger vanilla community and market
and i assume there wont be really ntr from here on out, until it would be scrapped completely
it's just, to me, that game lost a bit of uniqueness to it, possibility and potential, and it would take a further releases to change my mind again and prove me wrong
because, rn, to me, it's just became copy of Kindread: The Redburns, just like it was to me on 0.1, with more edgyness and Chosen One trope

I don't think dev planned for the mom to be pregnant from the zombies. So that's why he could remove it without much impact.

And zombie rapes might be more "unique" (more rare) than incest but it's not the epitome of uniqueness either.

 

[Andeddo]

I don't think dev planned for the mom to be pregnant from the zombies. So that's why he could remove it without much impact.

havent said anything about pregnancy
and specifically said about this kind of content being used as a tool for storytelling, as it was intended in the first place. If it wasn't, this content wouldn't have been here. if it was replaced by any other kind of penalty, or plot furhtering, i wouldn't have said anything. but it wasn't
it was just taken out, removing choices having weight and stakes to them, and to overall story too

And zombie rapes might be more "unique" (more rare) than incest but it's not the epitome of uniqueness either.

it made it stand out from other games in the genre, for better or worse. as of now, without it, it stands out less

 

[dolfe67]

havent said anything abour pregnancy
and specifically said about this kind of content being used as a tool for storytelling, as it was intended in the first place. If it wasn't, this content wouldn't have been here. if it was replaced by any other kind of penalty, or plot furhtering, i wouldn't have said anything. but it wasn't
it was just taken out, removing choices having stakes to them, and to overall story too

There was no other kind of penalty. The mom was raped and in the case she survived it was like nothing happened, she wasn't very bothered by it. He could have written about it but even before the removal he didn't.

Though I agree he could have kept the zombie rapes with the game overs. But from what he told there will be fewer and fewer of that kind of game over and soon none.

 

[Andeddo]

There was no other kind of penalty.

and thats the problem i had when those scenes were in place xD
just not that big for me to voice them

But from what he told there will be fewer and fewer of that kind of game over and soon none.

so what was the purpouse for them in the first place?
if those mechanics were deemed as unnecessary, why not remove them completely, remodeling fully scenes where they are present?
monster sex was disliked and "poll" decided? gone, sure, leftovers will stay in memories of older players, that would stay with the game.
game overs would be removed later in the game? then why you have them in early game, when stakes for whole story is not high or when you literally don't care about characters yet?
if there is no ntr would happen or anything bad to girls, what is the point of having dream cheating or show "bad" characters?
questions, so many questions

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I hope I don't get crucified for asking this, but since there are two versions of the game, one with monster sex scenes and one without them, why is everyone complaining? I could be missing something, like the second version of the game being scrapped, but I've read through the thread and seen nothing of the sort. If the goal is to have two separate versions of the game, one that implements future monster sex scenarios and one with just a regular game end, I can't see why there is such a fuss.

Actually there is only one version, the Dev has stopped including those scenes from 0.6 (current version) and removed all the ones that were there.

The version with those scenes is 0.5, which is prior to the decision to remove the scenes, and he's not going to make a 0.6 that includes them.

 

[Andeddo]

I hope I don't get crucified for asking this, but since there are two versions of the game, one with monster sex scenes and one without them, why is everyone complaining?

links to older versions were restored by moderator stuff after it was reported by community

 

[Overlord070]

and thats the problem i had when those scenes were in place xD
just not that big for me to voice them


so what was the purpouse for them in the first place?
if those mechanics were deemed as unnecessary, why not remove them completely, remodeling fully scenes where they are present?
monster sex was disliked and "poll" decided? gone, sure, leftovers will stay in memories of older players, that would stay with the game.
game overs would be removed later in the game? then why you have them in early game, when stakes for whole story is not high or when you literally don't care about characters yet?
if there is no ntr would happen or anything bad to girls, what is the point of having dream cheating or show "bad" characters?
questions, so many questions

Long story short:
The purpose was to punish the player for choosing the wrong options or messing up in some way but since more and more people wanted that type of scene and the dev didn't actually want to do them as the story went on he cut them out.

He actually did a poll on patreon (his paying customers) and the majority wanted the zombie rapes and he still cut them from the game.

 

[Overlord070]

I hope I don't get crucified for asking this, but since there are two versions of the game, one with monster sex scenes and one without them, why is everyone complaining? I could be missing something, like the second version of the game being scrapped, but I've read through the thread and seen nothing of the sort. If the goal is to have two separate versions of the game, one that implements future monster sex scenarios and one with just a regular game end, I can't see why there is such a fuss.

The dev was going to compromise and make 2 versions but judging by the more recent posts he decided against it mainly because he didn't like doing them.

Right now zombie rape only exist in the old versions of 0.5, the current version has been reworked to remove them and this will be the only version that is updated.
Reason why he chose to remove instead of just continuing on and not doing any more of those scenes is he didn't want to attract and mislead fans of the zombie rape genre.

 

[Mr_Blvck]

Sorry guys. i quite didnt understand corectly. where do i dounload the monster version?. also both ver. have they story updated?. thank you.

 

[Mr_Blvck]

i am in the middle of the 0.6 ver but i didnt see any monster scene. do i have to start again? damn i ve read too many comment and i am confused xd welp