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deekinftw
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They're already on the record of saying they're not going back to this game. They're going to focus on this new one, and then keep making more single character RPGs like it after they finish with this one. Plus work on this will be slow with updates on a bimonthly basis or so apparently.
It looks like they had issues with the programmer and patreon so they scrapped the project completely. I'll actually give the dev the benefit of the doubt here because I haven't seen the kind of manipulative backer milking you see from other devs and they were forthcoming about it.
There's more too it than that. They do have a history of starting and abandoning games, though only this one was directly patreon funded. Here's a post I wrote a while ago detailing what happened.
Garethan
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Dunno where you got your information but to my knowledge it's partial false.
Not gonna argue with the code for this game was/is from Moral Sword of Asagi. That's a fact that they never withheld.
But they don't have a history of starting and abandoning games. Some of them were never intended as full games but rather as test-projects and they told so when they started them. And other got finished by them.
The money from patreon (+ privat money from Wolf and Crescentia) were going into every project they worked on, not only Deathblight Rpg - Operation Thunderfang. But it was Deathblight Rpg - Operation Thunderfang which they developed with the help of a couple other people. The person responsible for coding started taking less and less interest in the project but kept promising he would work on it till the whole thing blow over. And that was the moment were Wolf and Crescentia decided to pull the plug and take a step back from everything.
From what I heard about their new game, it sounds like Wolf has learned from the past and is working on a much smaller scale and with people he actual knows.
Not going to bother posting again after this post, but there were 2 games they were working on simultaneously. This one, Operation Thunderfang, I don't recall them ever stating exactly why they stopped work on. However, it was with the code from the other game developer and was worked on in their team. It was also directly posted on and supported by the patreon (I know this it part because I supported them for a time for the game).
They also had a completely separate game they had in progress. I don't recall the name, and don't care to dig up the original posts about it now. It was supposedly fully written and the art fully drawn, with only the coding needing to be done. They contracted a coder to do that part of the game who took the money and didn't do the work. IIRC this one was never directly posted on patreon (outside maybe a "we're working on this other game, go here for info"), it was only posted about on their blog. They explicitly said it was only their own money, not patreon money (though obviously some of the patreon money went to them) that was being paid toward the development. After the coder took the money and ran, they just decided to drop the game that was art and story complete.
In any case, 2 abandoned games is a pattern IMO. Yes, they were relatively up front about the reasons, but it's still a pattern that leads me to consider them in the "prove you can complete a project" type of developer.
Also, just a note, this was like 3-4 years ago that a lot of this happened. I won't deny that my memory of the exact details might be incorrect. Regardless, I'm sure that the general info is correct.
BlinkyThe2nd
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Thankfully, they're under a publisher this time around, who can needle them in case they try round 3.
Sweet Force
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Each one gave their theory so I want to contribute mine because I have seen Crescentia's work for years. Crescentia and Wolf are a couple, and maybe it sounds bad but Crescentia is the one with the talent, the one who knows how to draw although I feel that she prefers quantity of characters over quality, and that is why many characters end up looking practically the same. On the other hand Wolf tries to contribute what is missing to create the videogame, he tries to be the programmer, he tries to be the writer and the one who manages the project, but unlike Cres, he is not very good in his area and has a lot to learn, he does not usually dimension the size of a project and that is why in the end he gives up when he sees that he is not capable of finishing it alone, I hope that with the new game, being smaller, he can finish it.
I know the conflicts that they said they had when there were more people working but in all the projects besides that there are also Wolf's problems. (It is only how I see it, it does not mean that it is really like that).
And the same goes for Cres, she has talent but a publisher can help her keep her feet on the ground, it's like when a mangaka is assigned an editor to help his manga stay on track.
I know the conflicts that they said they had when there were more people working but in all the projects besides that there are also Wolf's problems. (It is only how I see it, it does not mean that it is really like that).
And the same goes for Cres, she has talent but a publisher can help her keep her feet on the ground, it's like when a mangaka is assigned an editor to help his manga stay on track.
Fkin bitch... Only wanted to volunteer for help and if that's how she treats anyone working for her, no wonder that guy left with money...
That is Wolf so as far as I am aware he is still a he. And that is basically par for the course for him as far I saw on discord. Full context I was there since around day 1 on their discord and was a Patreon since I think around 2016 to I wanna say 2020/21 and his blowups, like the one to you, were sadly not uncommon. Worse still they were random, so someone could make the same joke you did and get a completely different result.
Also my uneeded two cents into this speculative brainstorm of why they don't finish projects is very simple: overestimation of their own abilities. Cres couldn't keep up with the art, at the time I think it was 4 concurrent projects + commissions to draw for and Wolf couldn't manage shit for shit.
Granted now they don't have that excuse (especially since they cancelled the NSFW comic for the SFW one and lowered the amount of art per month to a staggering 1 or 2 - some of which aren't even NSFW) and I cannot wait to see what they hit us with next when the Loki one gets massive delays or goes land down under since all the cancelled projects left me in the state of utter inability to take them at their word.
zarqupang
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well i could wait for the art it was good and as long as the game was good then we the humble masses that liked the game and art would have waited for a good thing i would have any way hell i have been waiting for a lot of games to come up lol.
imagine lying blatantly about what you said. you never said you volunteered ever. you stated matter of factly that you were on the team already. also you keep brining up cres when she doesnt hire people. that's wolf who does that. instead of being a complete loser about this, maybe you should actually say what you mean instead of the complete opposite and accept that they dont want your help since you clearly cant read and are an ignorant retard
How come you know that? No, you don't. It's just as I said, wanted to volunteer, he didn't and got unnecessary rant from him.
LowLevelLesser
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It's a separate new game, so the entire content is different from the version linked here. It's also public, linked on their blogspot in the first post.
deekinftw
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You misunderstand. There's a new demo release of the new game on their
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. The public download demo for the new game is from November and was already mentioned here.