VN Ren'Py Defending Lydia Collier [v0.16.2 Hotfix] [White Phantom Games]

[SteelyDan14]

lol how large you want it to be? its already over 1k renders

Seriously... I hear what you are saying. But from a time perspective, this update was maybe 5 minutes of play time. I know more is coming, and again... I am not knocking the dev at all, infact I am a Patreon and will continue to support them... but I was just making an observation that I think I like updates like with BAD where you get a whole chapter at a time. Yes, we wait 3-4 months, but it just seems worth the wait. And for the record, nothing wrong with this update at all.

 

[Pinsel]

Vanessas update was very long and nice, Ellies was nice, but Stephanies was like: Wake up, go to work and talk to Ellie and that was all i got.

 

[NukaCola]

Who is the mysterious girl in the boys team?

 

[gelu123]

Vanessas update was very long and nice, Ellies was nice, but Stephanies was like: Wake up, go to work and talk to Ellie and that was all i got.

There is more to steph path , but you need to have her breast implants done. I wont spoil the scene for you but , if you arent into some kinks you wont be that happy.
Even though Vanessa path was longer Ellie path was weak, it had so little content and crammed all the ideas and yet failed to deliver a memorable sex scene or any familly dynamics ellie has... so no , i wouldve been more glad to see more vanessa story and next update a full Ellie experience like she deserved.

 

[Qwert99]

Lmao what, Steph's route was like 10 renders total and 1 minute of playtime.. dafuq happened?

 

[The Green Knight]

Steph's route was always intended to be very short in this update, in fact she originally wasn't planned to have any content to balance Ellie/Vanessa who Steph overall still has waaaaayy more content than.

Steph does have quite a big scene if you go and bimbofy her though.

 

[Pinsel]

Lmao what, Steph's route was like 10 renders total and 1 minute of playtime.. dafuq happened?

Yup, but i hope there will be more in the final one, but the best thing about this beta was, no phone staff and no notebook shit. Ergo, no Error. I hope this two things will not find the way in SoM

 

[Qwert99]

Steph's route was always intended to be very short in this update, in fact she originally wasn't planned to have any content to balance Ellie/Vanessa who Steph overall still has waaaaayy more content than.

Steph does have quite a big scene if you go and bimbofy her though.

Kinda sucks that you have to uglify her to have more scenes.. was hoping that'd be a cosmetic choice and not one that locks you out of her content.

 

[gelu123]

Yup, but i hope there will be more in the final one, but the best thing about this beta was, no phone staff and no notebook shit. Ergo, no Error. I hope this two things will not find the way in SoM

Hey its funny sometimes and you get some characters insight and dynamics, i mean the whistle stuff on ellie pc. And also the instagram app ( especially Tanya )

 

[Pinsel]

Hey its funny sometimes and you get some characters insight and dynamics, i mean the whistle stuff on ellie pc. And also the instagram app ( especially Tanya )

I dont have a whistel account , this thing was going past me and now i dont have the will to replay all that staff, i even try to avoid the phone and PC as much as i can, because it gives me some errors. And Insta, well all you can see are some pics.

About Tanya, i offer her a job in one save, but she never comes arround, never see her again. Some idee, what happen?

 

[gelu123]

I dont have a whistel account , this thing was going past me and now i dont have the will to replay all that staff, i even try to avoid the phone and PC as much as i can, because it gives me some errors. And Insta, well all you can see are some pics.

Well was talking about Ellie whistle. Well i know its kinda cheap, but it adds small bits of story and lets face it its not mandatory and also takes less time to implement.

 

[SpyderArachnid]

I dont have a whistel account , this thing was going past me and now i dont have the will to replay all that staff, i even try to avoid the phone and PC as much as i can, because it gives me some errors. And Insta, well all you can see are some pics.

The errors are from using the walkthrough mod. Get rid of it, as it is outdated (it's a couple patches behind, so it causes all those errors). I've never had an error playing this game without the mod.

As for the whistle thing, if you just want the Chloe stuff without all the hassle, open your save in the save editor and ctrl+F whistle, and you'll find one that says whistleidsuccessful (or something like that). Change it to a 1, and boom done. Now you have Chloe's whistle profile. Then just go to your phone, click on whistle and say okay, go to your messages, and you'll have one for Chloe. Give her the money and now you'll have her exclusive moments page.

 

[Pinsel]

The errors are from using the walkthrough mod. Get rid of it, as it is outdated (it's a couple patches behind, so it causes all those errors). I've never had an error playing this game without the mod.

As for the whistle thing, if you just want the Chloe stuff without all the hassle, open your save in the save editor and ctrl+F whistle, and you'll find one that says whistleidsuccessful (or something like that). Change it to a 1, and boom done. Now you have Chloe's whistle profile. Then just go to your phone, click on whistle and say okay, go to your messages, and you'll have one for Chloe. Give her the money and now you'll have her exclusive moments page.

Thank you, i will try.
About the errors, i dont use mods in general, i think the errors here in my case, came from rollbacks and/or not using or reading all stuff on the PC/notebook/phone and the game looks later for this things, but can not find it.

Edit, just found one in this beta:

Spoiler: Vanessa error

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[mistercoon]

She is such a depraved sweetheart! Must be protected at all cost! (especially from her ex).

A man of honor

 

[gelu123]

A man of honor

At the current event in game i dont think the MC is protecting her at all at least not my MC . I made her do some shitty things (no pun intended) and pisses herself when she sees me(i couldnt hold here )

 

[DougDimmadope]

There is more to steph path , but you need to have her breast implants done. I wont spoil the scene for you but , if you arent into some kinks you wont be that happy.
Even though Vanessa path was longer Ellie path was weak, it had so little content and crammed all the ideas and yet failed to deliver a memorable sex scene or any familly dynamics ellie has... so no , i wouldve been more glad to see more vanessa story and next update a full Ellie experience like she deserved.

Yeah the long awaited Ellie sex scene was just 3-4 renders and a few variations. Kinda disappointing since they've been teasing each other since v0.1

 

[gelu123]

Did I make some wrong choices somewhere, or have there been no Steph scenes these last two updates if you don't bimbo-fy her?

Is it like the anal choice where you just gotta suck it up and do it if you want to keep having any kind of kinky sex with her, or I don't know if proper non-bimbo Steph scenes are planned but just not implemented yet because of the early release?

Yes that is kinda a bummer , a mistake in my opinion of writing. The dev made steph having an abused relationship from which mc can save her . And yet if you want scenes with her you must embrace some kind of fetishes and abuse her yourself and also lower her body image opinion and basically push her to enhance herself.
I like steph she is kinky and would go as far as mc's kinkiness pushes her, but she is a far cry from a real love interest like Ellie and Vanessa have potential to be if given enough scenes (looking at ellie here, she is the only virgin here and is pushed aside, and as this forum tought us , people here prefer to go alpha on virgin ass and remodel them to suit their D )

 

[OnlyUsedForNever]

Yes that is kinda a bummer , a mistake in my opinion of writing. The dev made steph having an abused relationship from which mc can save her . And yet if you want scenes with her you must embrace some kind of fetishes and abuse her yourself and also lower her body image opinion and basically push her to enhance herself.
I like steph she is kinky and would go as far as mc's kinkiness pushes her, but she is a far cry from a real love interest like Ellie and Vanessa have potential to be if given enough scenes (looking at ellie here, she is the only virgin here and is pushed aside, and as this forum tought us , people here prefer to go alpha on virgin ass and remodel them to suit their D )

Sorry, I deleted my comment because I realized the last couple pages were all complaining about what I was asking and didn't want to spam...

...But yeah, the more I think about it the more annoyed I get. One of the reasons the Steph romance is so unique in this whole website is that you can have a genuinely wholesome romantic relationship, PLUS lots of kinky depraved sex, but plastic surgery is WAY beyond kinky, that's a huge, huge change for so many reasons I won't bother rehashing. The anal choice being "forced" is one thing, because it's not like she or you irrevocably change whether you stick it in her butt or not.


I found a comment from WhitePhantom that said that "if bimbo Steph has 2 scenes, kinky non-bimbo Steph will have 2 scenes, and vanilla Steph will have 1 scene," so far that obviously isn't the case, but I'm hoping the message at the end of this update about it being released a little early means that those scenes just haven't been put in yet. Fingers crossed until next week, I suppose.

 

[gelu123]

Sorry, I deleted my comment because I realized the last couple pages were all complaining about what I was asking and didn't want to spam...

...But yeah, the more I think about it the more annoyed I get. One of the reasons the Steph romance is so unique in this whole website is that you can have a genuinely wholesome romantic relationship, PLUS lots of kinky depraved sex, but plastic surgery is WAY beyond kinky, that's a huge, huge change for so many reasons I won't bother rehashing. The anal choice being "forced" is one thing, because it's not like her and your lives irrevocably change whether you stick it in her butt or not.


I found a comment from WhitePhantom that said that "if bimbo Steph has 2 scenes, kinky non-bimbo Steph will have 2 scenes, and vanilla Steph will have 1 scene," so far that obviously isn't the case, but I'm hoping the message at the end of this update about it being released a little early means that those scenes just haven't been put in yet. Fingers crossed until next week, I suppose.

Yeah but you see what the devs is doing? its exactly SoM all over again , branching even further the story , now he needs to render twice as much scenes for steph... unneeded scenes instead of focusing on the others or in generally the main story. Than someone will come and say again they prefer 1000 renders per month , but it is about quallity not quantity , rendering steph twice is not needed.

 

[Yuri L]

I can agree with your comment overall: the number of girls that are virgins in these games is ridiculous, and regularly even ones that seem outright slutty miraculously turn out to be virgins, having saved themselves for the MC (or rather, for an insecure player). But in this particular case with Ellie I didn't think it was surprising or far-fetched at all. Now if her friend Tanya had turned out to be a virgin...

Don't kinkshame, m8. But seriously, NTR/non-NTR is a like any other fetish and everyone has their own preferences. In the end it's just a game so you don't need to think too hard and associate it with the real world like this.

Edit: EZ8lt didn't get it lol