VN Ren'Py Defending Lydia Collier [v0.16.2 Hotfix] [White Phantom Games]

[Ebonheart (FR)]

just a quick question about ellie third sister, she just took the dog to the vet and never came back?

I think we learn in a conversation between Emma and Ellie on Whistle that their younger sister, Rachel, has argued with their mother, blaming her for her father's decision to leave her for a younger woman of the girls' age. Shortly afterward, she goes back to live with her father, whom Rachel seems to prefer to her mother, with whom the relationship is strained.

And if you ever wonder why Rachel isn't an option, it's because of her age (17) and the developer's decision (why, by the way, is rather strange).

Otherwise, Helena does indeed tell us later that, because of her hatred for her ex-husband and daughter Rachel, she insists that the MC not try anything with her. It also seems to me, though I'm not sure, that Rachel and the others don't share the same father ?
I have a little thought for the dog that we never see directly too ! x)

 

[lipe2410]

just a quick question about ellie third sister, she just took the dog to the vet and never came back?

Can you blame her? I'll do the same thing if i have to live in a house of crazy bitchs

 

[WarriorSteel]

that Rachel and the others don't share the same father ?

Yeah, the twins and Ellie are fruits of the incestuous relationship between Helena and her father

 

[MrAnarchy]

Yeah, the twins and Ellie are fruits of the incestuous relationship between Helena and her father

It wasn’t until this update that this realization even dawned on me even though it was staring right at me.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Yeah, the twins and Ellie are fruits of the incestuous relationship between Helena and her father

So that's it, ok, I thought there must be something a bit special about it without quite grasping it. haha ^^
Anyway, thanks, it's pretty clear now, and it seems logical when you think about this very disturbed and twisted family.
Rachel is the only a priori "normal" person or one who isn't guilty of having done something serious or perverse.

It wasn’t until this update that this realization even dawned on me even though it was staring right at me.

Yes, it took me a while to get the hang of it too, but of course it all makes sense. It's a good thing we're dealing with fiction, because imagine the horror for someone who would have lived in a similar family in real life, just thinking about it makes me shudder with disgust. I can now understand why Helena says she wants the MC to become her husband/daddy who plays with her daughters during sex... x)
I wonder if the more normal/solo relationship with Ellie will give us a chance to denounce their mother's actions and put an end to this sick and harmful family atmosphere.

 

[| Vee |]

.... Otherwise, any news about a future Ellie-Vanessa relationship, is it still on ? Or was that just teasing too ? haha....

That will make it longer as we than have to shift on Ellie path after trip with Venessa and branching will be complex OR WhitePhantom just link Ellie's current route with Vanessa's after trip route BUT than again branching will be tough and managing both routes will be headache for WhitePhantom SO I think Ellie's path will be closed on that path and focus will shift on Titan continuing main story. We'll see how things will take shape as there is no official statement from WhitePhantom.

...I wonder if the more normal/solo relationship with Ellie will give us a chance to denounce their mother's actions and put an end to this sick and harmful family atmosphere.

That will be interesting to see but I don't think it will happen as the game's focus is going to shift on the Titan. And if MC is not on Dark path I don't think he would know they are from the incestuous relationship between Helena and her father.

 

[SaFjoeri]

just a note, mac version does not start up due to a script error, thanls

Do I copy this over the other game files? Cause it's still not showing the emma scene

 

[Canto Forte]

Nope .. it has paths where you stay in your lane or you die, quite literally .

Whether your fresh out of school assistant or a local police officer catches your eye, you'll be able to decide who you wish to interact with and choose to pursue romantically.

Character Paths split at starting of the game and you can make saves accordingly but these paths are in depth like

 

[SonsOfLiberty]

Do I copy this over the other game files? Cause it's still not showing the emma scene

What version did you get? The op is updated now, so if you got uncompressed get the update only and deleted old v17new.rpa and put new one in, if you got the compressed, do the same with my compressed update only bugfix.

 

[RoadWulf]

WhitePhantom So, as of yet we've seen nothing regarding the Lydia/Yennefer or Lydia/Danielle choices. But it's still possible to get into a relationship with Lydia even if you push her toward one of them. Are we going to see anything come of those soon (especially if you're using Ironstar for the team) or are they just dead choices at this point?

 

[WarriorSteel]

WhitePhantom So, as of yet we've seen nothing regarding the Lydia/Yennefer or Lydia/Danielle choices. But it's still possible to get into a relationship with Lydia even if you push her toward one of them. Are we going to see anything come of those soon (especially if you're using Ironstar for the team) or are they just dead choices at this point?

Those choices will only affect the epilogue

 

[HowieGames]

There's a possibility for a relationship with Ellie and Vanessa, not sure though as no real development except a slight suggestion, and at the moment no there's no Steph/Ellie/Vanessa triple relationship. And to be honest, it seems unlikely that we'll have the three main girls together.

aw man.. ahahah okay, thanks for the explanation

 

[RoadWulf]

There's a possibility for a relationship with Ellie and Vanessa, not sure though as no real development except a slight suggestion, and at the moment no there's no Steph/Ellie/Vanessa triple relationship. And to be honest, it seems unlikely that we'll have the three main girls together.

I'm more interested in what'll happen after you've had sex with (and probably knocked up) Vanessa's daughter

 

[Candy_L]

I hate Fleur she must die , please

 

[SaFjoeri]

What version did you get? The op is updated now, so if you got uncompressed get the update only and deleted old v17new.rpa and put new one in, if you got the compressed, do the same with my compressed update only bugfix.

Thanks this made me realise I still had the old update patch, so fixed it finally

 

[Dessolos]

Don't know if I'm in the minority here finished my first playthrough did Stephanie normal and Stephanie Bimbo and I actually prefer Normal Stephanie over Bimbo probably cause I love it when a LI in these type of games are wholesome. Don't get me wrong Bimbo Stephanie is fun to experience at least once and Pillory scene is worth it alone.

 

[EmileBadile]

I hate Fleur she must die , please

No, she must get turned into the perfect housepet bimbo.

 

[tr12345]

There're games with branching, then there's this game that's a whole tree.

This is a very dumbed down of how the game branches:

• Steph
  • Regular Steph - solo
  • Bimbo Steph (BDSM heavy)
    • Bimbo Steph - solo
    • Bimbo Steph + Lydia
• Ellie
  • Ellie - solo
  • Ellie + Lydia + Samantha
  • Dark path (Ellie + Samantha + Emma + Helena)
  • Dark path + Lydia (Ellie + Samantha + Emma + Helena + Lydia)
• Vanessa
  • Vanessa - solo
  • Vanessa + Sophie (cuckqueen)
  • Vanessa + Tiffany [Vanessa's daughter]
  • Tiffany's friends (don't think this is a real path though)
• Jenna
  • Jenna - solo
  • Jenna + Lydia
• Lydia

This are just the paths we're more confident in. There's still room for, and hints about, other possible divergences (Lydia bimbo, Ellie bimbo, etc).

The first time I played I thought Ellie would be the bimbo. She says her fav color is pink if I'm not wrong, she has the perfect look for it, and she goes through her outfit bimbofication really early on. I later learned Stephanie was the one who could get augmentation.

I would love a bimbo path for the Ellie branch

 

[Abhai]

The first time I played I thought Ellie would be the bimbo. She says her fav color is pink if I'm not wrong, she has the perfect look for it, and she goes through her outfit bimbofication really early on. I later learned Stephanie was the one who could get augmentation.

I would love a bimbo path for the Ellie branch

there is bimbo-ellie patch, later in the game (latest update).

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

The first time I played I thought Ellie would be the bimbo. She says her fav color is pink if I'm not wrong, she has the perfect look for it, and she goes through her outfit bimbofication really early on. I later learned Stephanie was the one who could get augmentation.

I would love a bimbo path for the Ellie branch

Have you played the last scene of Ellie's solo romance, besides her dark family path ? The scene in the hotel room gives you the chance to make her breasts bigger, and she also gets more crude and kinky during sex. We can assume that, depending on the choices you make during this scene, Ellie will adopt a bimbo and kinky behavior in the future. In any case, I think the hotel scene clearly implies that Ellie will have her bimbo path too.