VN Ren'Py Defending Lydia Collier [v0.17.0.2] [White Phantom Games]

mnemosynememory · Aug 19, 2025

What's the community general consensus on the latest update? Personally, I thought it was a tad underwhelming, especially because seemingly there is not much left for the game to be done?

-CookieMonster666- · Aug 19, 2025

mnemosynememory said:
What's the community general consensus on the latest update? Personally, I thought it was a tad underwhelming, especially because seemingly there is not much left for the game to be done?

IDK about general consensus, but I personally thought it was decent. It wasn't mindblowingly amazing or anything, but it was all right. Given that WPG was recovering from hand injuries (burns) and also delayed by two different office moves, there was far less time put into this latest update than the time between updates might make it appear. IDK how much that might have thrown things off content-wise, though (probably not a lot, but more so just caused delays). But as you say, we're in the final stretch of the game, so there's not a lot of content to come. Maybe the next update will be beefy to give everyone a fair amount of LI stuff at the end of the game, but it could also ofc have minimal content outside of the story itself. I wouldn't bet on either over the other.

Redplanetblues · Aug 19, 2025

I would love an epilogue of MC and Emma tearing it up at Fresher's Week.

gthmf · Saturday at 4:59 AM

So. Looks like the loop fix is never coming here.

MagicMan753 · Saturday at 6:29 AM

-CookieMonster666- said:
And Tiff too?! So you talk about how badly Steph was treated and then mention Tiffany (who absolutely was let down by her fiancé) as one whom you'll treat well... by cheating on Vanessa and having her own daughter stab her in the back. Don't get me wrong: I have almost every route the game offers (don't like bimbo Steph with fake-ass boobs, so I didn't do that one). And I have to admit, I've enjoyed the Wickes-family corruption route, the Jenna-gets-cucked scenes, and the Vanessa's daughter's friends scenes. But your post comes across as the "let's treat all the women the way they deserve" which somehow includes probably hurting Vanessa very badly. Not sure how that would amount to treating Vanessa well.

You know, I think you are assuming that going with Tiffany will automatically hurt or cause drama with Vanessa. Which I don't think is true. In a walk-through or somewhere else, the path for Sophia is called queen path I think, then there is the Tiffany path which is called something Princess. Which makes me think things will work out.

I feel as if, wirh Vanessa being a cuckquean and how much she loves her daughter, especially after the wedding and the fiance, I feel like its possible that Vanessa will see how much of a good man we are and give her blessing in the end to be with her own daughter Tiffany too.

But those are just my thoughts on how things will play out, I guess we'll see. Also I am really excited for the Tiff date, hoping for something really sweet and romantic. Wish Tiffany started earlier in game just cause I wish their was more of her.

-CookieMonster666- · Saturday at 8:54 AM

MagicMan753 said:
You know, I think you are assuming that going with Tiffany will automatically hurt or cause drama with Vanessa. Which I don't think is true. In a walk-through or somewhere else, the path for Sophia is called queen path I think, then there is the Tiffany path which is called something Princess. Which makes me think things will work out.

I feel as if, wirh Vanessa being a cuckquean and how much she loves her daughter, especially after the wedding and the fiance, I feel like its possible that Vanessa will see how much of a good man we are and give her blessing in the end to be with her own daughter Tiffany too.

But those are just my thoughts on how things will play out, I guess we'll see. Also I am really excited for the Tiff date, hoping for something really sweet and romantic. Wish Tiffany started earlier in game just cause I wish their was more of her.

Well, to be clear, Vanessa is not the cuckquean; Sofie is the one getting cucked (by the MC "taking" Vanessa from her). The way Vanessa doms Sofie makes it clear she's not the one getting cucked. So I don't think your comparison is a very good one.

That said, it's always possible she'll be OK with it. I'm just saying it's a pretty big risk, since none of us know for sure how she'll respond. RL relationships have gone down the shitter for exactly this kind of thing. But, as a VN, maybe RL consequences can be avoided. It ofc depends on what WPG decides the result will be. (But Tiff does for sure say her mom can't find out, and that it would end Vanessa's relationship with the MC; whether that's just assumption or based on past conversations with Vanessa she's had is unknown to us.) This very thing is why I have separate playthroughs for each. If things blow up in one PT, I have another where they won't.

SonsOfLiberty · Sunday at 12:55 AM

Defending Lydia Collier [v0.17.0.2] [White Phantom Games]

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