RPGM Defenestration [v0.5d] [Fresh Mulan]

[jonL]

So, in two weeks mulan wasnt able to add any single scene? Im not trying to critique him in this post, just trying to grasp development speed. Ok, previous 6 months included map development, so it is not clear is it two months per scene or better or worse. Probably worse since the was only one completly new scene.
The problem is, adding completly new scene with new poses will now take several months of drawing. So either we can have reasonably slow development with reusable content, not much to reuse now outside of standing dialog pose, or we will have unreasonably slow development, every new pose taking half a year to draw and code in.

At least lostraven can do his magic not twice a year. By the way, up until 0.4.5 I had no problems with mulans writing.

 

[Hexydezimal]

Its just yet another one of those "Im gonna release updates more frequently from now on" type of reports. Oh Right, Mulan also cries how he needs MOAR MONEYZ!

Can you folks just stop, please? Lost Raven has already explained why this takes a while.

 

[jonL]

Can you folks just stop, please? Lost Raven has already explained why this takes a while.

Explaining doesn't solve the problem. If development is slowed down by to much variety, than its better to turn down some variety, or have infinitely unfinished game.

 

[lostraven]

At least lostraven can do his magic not twice a year. By the way, up until 0.4.5 I had no problems with mulans writing.

*Me doing my magic for another game*

 

[Idontplay]

I'm starting to think PunishedMulan should change his name in CrucifiedMulan.

 

[Deleted member 2114730]

I'm starting to think PunishedMulan should change his name in CrucifiedMulan.

yeah honestly its kind of wrong with the consistent negativity toward mulan at this point its a bit of a annoying broken record

 

[PULALAU1]

i will w8 with pleasue the next update

 

[NemisXue]

Ok I understand people are upset but seriously I am surprise the mods of F95 haven't step in to put this too a stop. Cause I am tired of seeing whiney bitching being the only alerts I get for this game. We get it your mad or your upset, but honestly do any of you have a right to be bitching & moaning. Your most likely not supporting this game by being part of their Patreon so you really got no right to bitch nonstop. Your sitting on here downloading free content that someone is sharing with us that is actually supporting the game, unlike you. So please STFU & move on you self entitled fucks.

 

[rolada66]

Ok I understand people are upset but seriously I am surprise the mods of F95 haven't step in to put this too a stop. Cause I am tired of seeing whiney bitching being the only alerts I get for this game. We get it your mad or your upset, but honestly do any of you have a right to be bitching & moaning. Your most likely not supporting this game by being part of their Patreon so you really got no right to bitch nonstop. Your sitting on here downloading free content that someone is sharing with us that is actually supporting the game, unlike you. So please STFU & move on you self entitled fucks.

I've been a patreon for a while (even wanted to get some bonus content into the game via a higher tier but Mulan had too much work already). I don't write here bitching and moaning cause it's being done for me, the criticism is valid. Knocking it by standing on some kind of moral high ground on this forum seems... hypocritical. In fact this bitching and moaning is useful, any potential patreons can get an idea of what to expect if they decide to support. Its the first thing I do these days when deciding if I want to support a game.

 

[Bored247]

Well with little content to talk about it is not surprising that people spend the time talking about how slow the content updates are.

Hopefully Mulan see's it for what it is, ALOT of people whom enjoy their game, their story and direction and want to see more of it. Whether peoples avid hunger for your game motivates or depresses you is up to the author.

 

[Cucky 27]

Ok I understand people are upset but seriously I am surprise the mods of F95 haven't step in to put this too a stop. Cause I am tired of seeing whiney bitching being the only alerts I get for this game. We get it your mad or your upset, but honestly do any of you have a right to be bitching & moaning. Your most likely not supporting this game by being part of their Patreon so you really got no right to bitch nonstop. Your sitting on here downloading free content that someone is sharing with us that is actually supporting the game, unlike you. So please STFU & move on you self entitled fucks.

We just sharing our thoughts on mulans work and update speed not complaining about the game and I think the site is for everyone who wants to share their opinion even if we are playing the game for free ain't it?

 

[AlisaB]

Ok I understand people are upset but seriously I am surprise the mods of F95 haven't step in to put this too a stop. Cause I am tired of seeing whiney bitching being the only alerts I get for this game. We get it your mad or your upset, but honestly do any of you have a right to be bitching & moaning. Your most likely not supporting this game by being part of their Patreon so you really got no right to bitch nonstop. Your sitting on here downloading free content that someone is sharing with us that is actually supporting the game, unlike you. So please STFU & move on you self entitled fucks.

Seriously STFU! Who are you to tell people whether they "have a right to be bitching" or not?
Anyway, I was supporting this dev on Patreon until recently when i got fed up with constant lies, broken deadlines etc... but even if i wasnt - its a forum, everyone can share their opinion.
Most of the criticism is completely valid, this project went from "frequent updates with good amount of content" to "2 updates per year with little(and often buggy) content".

 

[PULALAU1]

ok but wana hear something funny i am on F95 since 2017 but i never see this game before , i just find out abbout this grom gamecore

 

[Liero]

Seriously STFU! Who are you to tell people whether they "have a right to be bitching" or not?
Anyway, I was supporting this dev on Patreon until recently when i got fed up with constant lies, broken deadlines etc... but even if i wasnt - its a forum, everyone can share their opinion.
Most of the criticism is completely valid, this project went from "frequent updates with good amount of content" to "2 updates per year with little(and often buggy) content".

You have a right to complain if you are invested somehow.
If you are walking down the street and try to grab yourself a hotdog from a salesman without him noticing, but he is out of hotdogs, can you legitimately feel that you can complain?
Or if you sneak into a movie theatre and they are not playing the movie you want to see, can you truly complain?

I wholeheartedly agree that the development of this game have been chaotic. But I still think the main complaint shouldn't be how long it is between each update, but rather communication of how far development have come.

Look at someone like Remtairy. Sure, they have more experience in this line of work, or so I would presume, but they have a monthly report in regards to how far their work has come. They have a long time between each major update, but due to those monthly updates, it's fair for the backers as then they KNOW just how much work has gone into the project.

Thing is, I doubt the vast majority of people on F95 really understands how hard it is to make a game. And I really think that people may take the games for granted...just because they are porn games.

 

[PULALAU1]

AND YET nobody tell me what to do to increase the fame i am stuck at 5

 

[Liero]

That's stealing and it's a game I guess u also pay for the games like warzone and Fortnite which are free to play

Let's then change the analogy a bit:
You walk down a street, you copy a hotdog and eat it. You find out that it tastes horrible. You complain to the salesman that the Hotdog you didn't pay for tasted horrible.

 

[jonL]

Let's then change the analogy a bit:
You walk down a street, you copy a hotdog and eat it. You find out that it tastes horrible. You complain to the salesman that the Hotdog you didn't pay for tasted horrible.

Ok. But f95 in this analogy is a street. No one complain directly to mulan, since he showed that we freeloaders are below his station, but people on the street are talking that salesman is putting dog turds in his previously delicious hotdogs. Now you run down the street saying "How you dare to critic this fine salesman? By some dog turd... i mean hotdogs, than complain!"

 

[Arkady]

Every time I check in on this, I'm honestly surprised by the sheer volume of complaints. Yes, PunishedMulan has made some decisions I don't quite agree with (e.g. art rework), which probably did set back the development pace, but - and this is a pretty big but - he's actually delivered main story content that's (a little slowly) going somewhere plus progressed key side content (New Me).

I'm much more willing to give him a break than, say, if he were taking in twice as much on Patreon, have just as as too many avatar options, and a character generation/intro scene bloated to 137 questions, while still not even letting us go to Bangkok jail - and yes, it is fair to compare what different developers are (not) doing.

 

[jonL]

Every time I check in on this, I'm honestly surprised by the sheer volume of complaints. Yes, PunishedMulan has made some decisions I don't quite agree with (e.g. art rework), which probably did set back the development pace, but - and this is a pretty big but - he's actually delivered main story content that's (a little slowly) going somewhere plus progressed key side content (New Me).

I'm much more willing to give him a break than, say, if he were taking in twice as much on Patreon, have just as as too many avatar options, and a character generation/intro scene bloated to 137 questions, while still not even letting us go to Bangkok jail - and yes, it is fair to compare what different developers are (not) doing.

In general - Mulan made ton of promises that he didn't upheld.

 

[Liero]

Ok. But f95 in this analogy is a street. No one complain directly to mulan, since he showed that we freeloaders are below his station, but people on the street are talking that salesman is putting dog turds in his previously delicious hotdogs. Now you run down the street saying "How you dare to critic this fine salesman? By some dog turd... i mean hotdogs, than complain!"

I am not sure how to properly explain this.

The game Defenestration is good right?
But the release schedule have been pretty bad right?
So since I presume most people here are not a Patron in his Patreon and just getting the game for free whenever he puts out a version, what reason can you possibly have to complain about a game you are not investing in, being slow to release?

Let's again rephrase the hotdog analogy to better fit this situation then:
You walk down a street, you copy a hotdog from a salesman, you are still hungry after eating it, thus go back to the salesman and complain to him that you are still hungry.

I am just horrible at phrasing myself right.