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There is a daily decay by 1.5% for both.
Punch, struggle, kick, demand, gives only 1…5 points each.
Biting gives 20 points, with fangs it's 60!
Wait, I thought sadism increases depending on the damage you dealt?
This is news to me.

Sadism and Maso both decrease by a certain percentage everyday(you can find more on wiki),so you have to grind them up every once in a while to keep it at a stable lvl....If you are having difficulties grinding it and have decent enough fighting stats(body+stats) then you can follow the method I posted above.
You don't need to grind for them everyday, you can start grinding back only if they're near the cap before they downgrade if the stat is nearing 700 or below if you've the highest rank of it.

BONUS:

I think that we should get punished indirectly if we're not paying Bailey if they want Bailey to be a scary character like maybe making the orphanage more hostile as a way to vent their anger on others 'coz we skipped payment for Bailey and the other orphans will then blame us for their misfortune due to our actions~~~

If you devs want to bring back the Dark Souls experience, stop making things easier...
 
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b00marrows

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Biting gives 20 points, with fangs it's 60!
This is good, i recent got my teefs.
Ill have to give it a go again as i focused on other things recently and sidelined it.


Wait, I thought sadism increases depending on the damage you dealt?
I think defiancy gain is increased by sadism? kinda a moot point tho as a sadist is already a defiant? weird... maybe i misread it...
 

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I think defiancy gain is increased by sadism? kinda a moot point tho as a sadist is already a defiant? weird... maybe i misread it...
Nah, Defiancy is just choosing the defiant options, you don't need sadism for that.
 

b00marrows

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Nah, Defiancy is just choosing the defiant options, you don't need sadism for that.
No i meant i thought sadism increased defiance stat gains, but no i read it wrong.

set _defiance to (_args[0] * (1 + ($sadism / 1000)))
_defiance is one of the damage multipliers of a defiant actions. Yes a multiplier.

Sadism / 1000 = damage multiplier.
Am i reading that right?

So:
Sadism 1 = 1000 = 1+1 = 2x damage
Sadism 2 = 2000 = 1+2 = 3x damage? :unsure:
 
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No i meant i thought sadism increased defiance stat gains, but no i read it wrong.

set _defiance to (_args[0] * (1 + ($sadism / 1000)))
_defiance is one of the damage multipliers of a defiant actions. Yes a multiplier.

Sadism / 1000 = damage multiplier.
Am i reading that right?

So:
Sadism 1 = 1000 = 1+1 = 2x damage
Sadism 2 = 2000 = 1+2 = 3x damage? :unsure:
Oh, yes sadism does increase damage.
Physique and sadism together is a great combo, all you need left is heels for kicks.

If you use one spray can, you can take a person out in one turn even if your skill in sprays ain't that high yet.
It's how my tiny chara can still avoid payment even when outnumbered.

BONUS:
What's that? You have no more sprays?
Spam the compound every night and you'll refill all your sprays in less than a week, well I only have 3 for now and it works wonders avoiding Bailey's payment.
 

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Wait, I thought sadism increases depending on the damage you dealt?
This is news to me.
Yes and no.
The sadism increase depends only on the action you choose (with a bonus for fangs).
The actual damage depends on these points scaled by Physique and Sadism.
The side effects, stress reduction and arousal, depend on Sadism but not Physique.
Oh, wait, arousal depends twice on Sadism! Biting with fangs and max Sadism causes 3000 arousal!

This is good, i recent got my teefs.
Ill have to give it a go again as i focused on other things recently and sidelined it.
Bon appetite! :)

No i meant i thought sadism increased defiance stat gains, but no i read it wrong.

set _defiance to (_args[0] * (1 + ($sadism / 1000)))
_defiance is one of the damage multipliers of a defiant actions. Yes a multiplier.

Sadism / 1000 = damage multiplier.
Am i reading that right?

So:
Sadism 1 = 1000 = 1+1 = 2x damage
Sadism 2 = 2000 = 1+2 = 3x damage? :unsure:
"_defiance" here is only a temporary variable. It is not The Defiance.
Sadism is clamped at 1000. So at max Sadism you deal 2× damage.
 

Raf-Raf

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The sadism increase depends only on the action you choose (with a bonus for fangs).
Oh, wait, arousal depends twice on Sadism! Biting with fangs and max Sadism causes 3000 arousal!
I'm guessing bite is the most then maybe headbutt -> normal defiant actions?
Also, what's the cap of Arousal so I can try and plan moves ahead to optimize combat shenanigans.
 

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I'm guessing bite is the most then maybe headbutt -> normal defiant actions?
Also, what's the cap of Arousal so I can try and plan moves ahead to optimize combat shenanigans.
Arousal is capped at 10000.
(Every frigging stat has different range, very annoying...)
 

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Has anyone discovered any new Kylar content passed the point where you talk to the hooded woman from the temple outside Kylar's manor?
 

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Do still find it weird that NPC's can and will repeatedly bite breasts through clothing while the player, even with sharp teeth doesn't have this option, but also has to have a bare chest and to have moved their head close to even get a similar action as a choice.

Also I am currently in a Bailey fight where i have no option to interact with Baily, like i cant strip her. Its like she is ethereal, but i can punch and kick her... weird.

And i accidentally made her cum by her giving me a hand job. I was waited to lash out at "heated" to get sadism points but now i got blue balls and caretaker cum on my floor. Great.

and now my purity is stuck here:
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Man i am having 0 luck today wtf. (no wait, maybe this bar goes down MUCH slower than the last 5 levels for some magic reason... dumb...)
462 -> 420 while in full nuns gear. wow. lame.
 
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Do still find it weird that NPC's can and will repeatedly bite breasts through clothing while the player, even with sharp teeth doesn't have this option, but also has to have a bare chest and to have moved their head close to even get a similar action as a choice.

Also I am currently in a Bailey fight where i have no option to interact with Baily, like i cant strip her. Its like she is ethereal, but i can punch and kick her... weird.

And i accidentally made her cum by her giving me a hand job. I was waited to lash out at "heated" to get sadism points but now i got blue balls and caretaker cum on my floor. Great.

and now my purity is stuck here:
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Man i am having 0 luck today wtf. (no wait, maybe this bar goes down MUCH slower than the last 5 levels for some magic reason... dumb...)
462 -> 420 while in full nuns gear. wow. lame.
bit of a chore to grind purity down, but once you do, maintaining that is just a single fuck a day
 

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bit of a chore to grind purity down, but once you do, maintaining that is just a single fuck a day
Id hope so.
Weird thing is the levels before went super fast. Like half a level per orgasm, did it get nerfed in 3.10?
 

animal idiot

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I hope that with the expansion of Kylar's story and the manor, there'll be a stat in the cheat menu for raising the trust of their parents.
 

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can anyone give me some tips for lowering police interest im doing a thief build and don't know if i have to wait for it to lower or pay someone
 

Raf-Raf

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can anyone give me some tips for lowering police interest im doing a thief build and don't know if i have to wait for it to lower or pay someone
You don't need to pay anyone if you can outrun / outsmart them.
I have a save with the highest bounty but never caught 'coz if you have high athletics, you will ALWAYS be able to escape.

You can also talk to the npc at the pub and get their blackbox to reset so they can't arrest you even if the crime rank is high.
 

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can anyone give me some tips for lowering police interest im doing a thief build and don't know if i have to wait for it to lower or pay someone
With high enough Skullduggery, you'll spot a side door at the police station. That will trigger a quest. When completed, you'll be able to cancel all arrest warrants.

I don't remember how much Skullduggery you need, but it's pretty high, at least B I think.
 
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I like where this game go about story and characters, that is being developed.
You have Robin who is cinnamon roll, and you want keep safe (TRY NOT) but want keep you too, I'm not sure how much dominance or confidence make diffrent in this character, I havn't notice much as in history class, so I shouldn't be mad if he/she become more bully with higher conf/dom.
Im glad to see how Kylar route get more, Im stuck in strange person from church in story but hey, I could tell her that anime name are shit and force to wear goth dress, and about keeping safe and become careconume yeah he/she is in madness style but most helpful character in game?
I like how Whitney become less bitch, ok, still it's relation "pimp and prostitute", but I'd love to see it where with low dom she become maybe some like Robin or as write above vice versa bully but friend, but still I like her/him it's really nice writen persone where you need fight to earn respect or as story want assume cause with mechanic or game itself it does not show it.
Sydney it's weird character where you can go with 2 side pure and psycho nimpho route and I really don't like it, but now testing demon cause new events etc so maybe I will convince.
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Avery just treat you as expensive prostitute terribly shallow character.
Hunter is like Kylar and I think thats it.
I hope Robin get some more story with update and Whitney too, because I think these are the best two characters.
 
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