Underseeker

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Become a cow, work in the cafe until you get promoted to chef, reap rewards. Stealing can also be pretty effective. Working in the spa can get a nice tip. Becoming Avery's sugar baby gets a nice monetary perk once a week. Temple drop 4000.
What is the quickest way to become a cow? Also, this may sound dumb, but what's the point of becoming one? I don't see anything that would lead to my character making any sort of monetary value out of it.
 

Raf-Raf

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What is the quickest way to become a cow? Also, this may sound dumb, but what's the point of becoming one? I don't see anything that would lead to my character making any sort of monetary value out of it.
Try helping the random npc move their boxes and pray it's the bad ones so they can shove you in their trunk and get sent to the OTHER Farm.
Work at Alex's farm, get jumped by people and intentionally lose -> get sent to the farm.

They removed the bus in the pub location so there's no more speedruns to get there, all RNG now.
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It doubles the milk capacity for one which is the most important part of money-making via Cafe'.
It gives you horns which reduces pain gained when doing headbutts will boosting the damage too.
It's even better at Demon TF 'cause it changes.
And of course, Unique Robin options. :KEK:
 

Underseeker

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Try helping the random npc move their boxes and pray it's the bad ones so they can shove you in their trunk and get sent to the OTHER Farm.
Work at Alex's farm, get jumped by people and intentionally lose -> get sent to the farm.

They removed the bus in the pub location so there's no more speedruns to get there, all RNG now.

It doubles the milk capacity for one which is the most important part of money-making via Cafe'.
It gives you horns which reduces pain gained when doing headbutts will boosting the damage too.
It's even better at Demon TF 'cause it changes.
And of course, Unique Robin options. :KEK:
Thank you (and Penitensary) for explaining. NGL i didn't see the other guys post until after I made mine so I feel bad
 
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I'm still a little surprised Whitney gets so much hate here since their design is like several very popular tropes, especially within the demographic that would enjoy playing this game. Granted after I "beat" the game once, I used sugarcube to cheat mechanics I didn't find fun and so maybe Whitney's appearances have gotten a lot harder to navigate for normal players, I dunno.
 

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What is the quickest way to become a cow? Also, this may sound dumb, but what's the point of becoming one? I don't see anything that would lead to my character making any sort of monetary value out of it.
in addtion to Raf-Raf events, a random event either going to farmlands or in the early moor can also take you there
 

Penitensary

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Thank you (and Penitensary) for explaining. NGL i didn't see the other guys post until after I made mine so I feel bad
No probs.

And yeah, the so-called 'Hellcow' (Demon and Cow combo) can get pretty nasty. Your headbutt damage quadruples and (as per Cow) you stop taking damage from it as well. Overall though, if you're looking for raw combat damage anything with fangs still comes out on top with Bite, which can potentially deal more damage than even pepper spray.
 

Megapihar

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I'm still a little surprised Whitney gets so much hate here since their design is like several very popular tropes, especially within the demographic that would enjoy playing this game.
Popular tropes like what? Bully who is raping us, beating us, humiliating us, blackmailing, "selling" us and doing a lot of different bad stuff to us should be considered as a good(or maybe enjoyable) person in our POV?
 
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Raf-Raf

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Popular tropes like what? Bully who is raping us, beating us, humiliating us, blackmailing, "selling" us and doing a lot of different bad stuff to us should be considered as a good(or maybe enjoyable) person in our POV?
You'll be surprised on how much people are into getting abused.
It's not my thing and will never by my thing unless I'm doing the abusing on Sh-tney but I know there's so many of 'em, just one look at the subreddit is enough~~~
 

Megapihar

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You'll be surprised on how much people are into getting abused.
It's not my thing and will never by my thing unless I'm doing the abusing on Sh-tney but I know there's so many of 'em, just one look at the subreddit is enough~~~
Well, i think there are people who like such things but usually in this thread i saw comments about how it sucks to be abused by literally everyone/everything and how good it be if we would get more defiant options and plenty of them regarding Whitney( even some about putting them into submission and alike).
So, i'm not surprised that a lot of people hate them.
 

Raf-Raf

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Well, i think there are people who like such things but usually in this thread i saw comments about how it sucks to be abused by literally everyone/everything and how good it be if we would get more defiant options and plenty of them regarding Whitney( even some about putting them into submission and alike).
So, i'm not surprised that a lot of people hate them.
Think it's more of the sub enjoyers than me who prefers top.
I'll never get the appeal of being sub or being used / abused in the first place but they do they and me do me.
 

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Well, i think there are people who like such things but usually in this thread i saw comments about how it sucks to be abused by literally everyone/everything and how good it be if we would get more defiant options and plenty of them regarding Whitney( even some about putting them into submission and alike).
So, i'm not surprised that a lot of people hate them.
People express being unhappy about something a whole lot more than being happy about something.
 
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People express being unhappy about something a whole lot more than being happy about something.
Well, yeah. When you're happy with something you're busy enjoying it, and no-one hears from you. When unhappy, not only are you not enjoying that something but you tend to spend that time which would otherwise go into enjoying that something to bitching to hell & high water about how God-awful that something is instead.

Especially if there's a sense of being "cheated" in some way - the something was advertised as one thing but turned-out to something completely different; the something is sold at full price but is released in a barely-functional state; you install an update for the something you're enjoying only for the update to either break it or censor it for no reason at all; the new something is of severe lower quality to past somethings under the same name...the reasons go on-and-on.
 
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Popular tropes like what? Bully who is raping us, beating us, humiliating us, blackmailing, "selling" us and doing a lot of different bad stuff to us should be considered as a good(or maybe enjoyable) person in our POV?
I appreciate the answers. Obviously talking strictly fictional characters (since god help me I've had to clarify that before), but tropes being like... bully with a secret soft side, person being "defensive" of you, being kind of of a power figure in that particular hierarchy, troubled blond bad boy/girl, etc. Bad guys can be hot when they aren't real and you can control the situation. It's all over fanfiction and romance novels.

Plus considering the amount of people that unironically sexualized Onceler, I'd say people are desperate for villains lol.
 
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Before everything else I'd like to state that I dislike Shi-tney so much that I modified his kidnapping scene to have him killed. (Yeah, I know he's actually in Underground, but I wanted him go away with a bang. Well, more like a squash, because the scene was similar with the curb scene in American History X).

That being said, I believe is a bit hypocritical to hate him that much just because he's a bully. I mean, look what you are doing yourself with the PC. Shi-tney scenes are quite lite compared to that, seriously.

I know we don't judge fetishes here, but really: becoming a cow, sexing dogs and bulls and pigs, voluntary prostitution, self imprisonment, romancing birds and wolves, self degradation ... vs public humiliation & pimping. What weights more in your eyes?

"But I chose to do it, is not forced upon me by some asshole". And that makes it way better, right? RIGHT?
 
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Before everything else I'd like to state that I dislike Shi-tney so much that I modified his kidnapping scene to have him killed. (Yeah, I know he's actually in Underground, but I wanted him go away with a bang. Well, more like a squash, because the scene was similar with the curb scene in American History X).

That being said, I believe is a bit hypocritical to hate him that much just because he's a bully. I mean, look what you are doing yourself with the PC. Shi-tney scenes are quite lite compared to that, seriously.

I know we don't judge fetishes here, but really: becoming a cow, sexing dogs and bulls and pigs, voluntary prostitution, self imprisonment, romancing birds and wolves, self degradation ... vs public humiliation & pimping. What weights more in your eyes?

"But I chose to do it, is not forced upon me by some asshole". And that makes it way better, right? RIGHT?
Would've made the kidnapping scene even more terrifying if you modify the van from the U.Brothel to literal organ traders.
With them as the, let's just say donor.
 
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[...] That being said, I believe is a bit hypocritical to hate him that much just because he's a bully. I mean, look what you are doing yourself with the PC. Shi-tney scenes are quite lite compared to that, seriously. [...]
Yeah! That was more what I was thinking with my question. Plus, why vocally hate instead of choosing the funniest and objectively correct option of making petty game mods. Those have been the highlights of browsing BG3 mods tbh.

I'm not sure I see that much since Whitney needs 100 dominance to really get the love flowing, and ya gotta get through lots of shit in most the events with Whitney
Huh, I could've sworn that I saw scenes with them at low dom. Maybe I glitched into them by messing with code so much while playing around with the bratty/meek stuff. Lucky me, I guess.
 

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Yeah! That was more what I was thinking with my question. Plus, why vocally hate instead of choosing the funniest and objectively correct option of making petty game mods. Those have been the highlights of browsing BG3 mods tbh.



Huh, I could've sworn that I saw scenes with them at low dom. Maybe I glitched into them by messing with code so much while playing around with the bratty/meek stuff. Lucky me, I guess.
I think you can always get love at the park as long as it's raining
 

closetclopper

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As one of the quiet Whitney fans who enjoy the abuse, I thought I should speak up in his/her favor. I'm not sure if Whitney's my favorite love interest, but I definitely hope for more content featuring them, if only because school takes up a significant amount of our in-game time, so it's probably the best place to have more stuff added, IMO. Personally I'd probably enjoy a massive expansion of Leighton stuff more, with the principal forcing us into all sorts of depravity, but that'd almost certainly run afoul of you non-subby types who - for some bizarre reason I'll never be able to comprehend - want to have, ugh, agency and choice in what lewd stuff happens to you.

Actually, that hits on my main problem with Whitney's stuff - that you need to have high levels of lewd stats to pursue a proper romance with them. I wanna be a wholesome, pure, innocent cinnamon bun who gets forced into perverse stuff, whereas Whitney's current content requires me to be an increasingly enthusiastic participant. This isn't really bad, but it doesn't quite scratch my particular kink itches.

That's true of most of the love interests, actually - Eden and Kylar share the problem that they both end up genuinely caring about my character, even if it's in a messed up and possessive way, and thus can't be as cruel as I'd prefer. Avery is kind, courteous, and even romantic as long as I do what they tell me to, and even pays me! Blech! I don't want a partner who considers me valuable! Robin and Sydney are both cool in their own way, but in the former's case I want them to be corrupted along side me, and in the latter's case I don't wanna be the one doing the corrupting. The animals are great, but their content is also kinda necessarily limited. I haven't actually done much with Alex, because from everything I've read the farm is basically just an enormous, endless black hole of time and money.

The ultimate irony of DoL's love interests is that the game is probably the closest a game can get to perfectly hitting on my particular, subby kinks, but every major, developed character I can have complex interactions with has just enough redeeming qualities or gives just enough agency to me in the relationship that I genuinely prefer the company of the randomly-generated rapists, because at least they're willing to take what they want from me regardless of my preferences/choices. TLDR: thank you for a fantastic game, devs, but gimme unapologetically and uncompromisingly scummy Ugly Bastard romantic partner!
 
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