HTML Degrees of Lewdity [v0.5.4.5] [Vrelnir]

[Midge]

In regards to the sadistic hateful teacher mentioned earlier, I don't think it's especially good to start out hated. I think it would be better if the teacher just got off on abusing power. You'd have two routs, directly let them start small with you, little liberties, or work on your "reputation" and the teacher will hear about it. Then maybe if you start refusing their advances the hate, or rather frustration really, begins to grow. But I don't feel like the higher hate should really coincide with more extreme acts, in fact I feel like the more they like you and the more they trust you the more confident they get in, say, teaching while fucking you or making the class run a train on you. I don't really know what kind of path the hate would go down, I'm not really interested either.

I think rather than outright adding a new teacher, it would be better if certain present teachers could be seduced into going down this rout. I mean you can already masturbate until one faints and then get gangbanged by the students. There's an easy in, add a scene where you convince the students to tie the teacher up and force her to fuck you too, then the class starts devolving from there.

On a completely different note, How do you appropriately respond to the bun-stealing orphan in order to encourage orphanage events? Because those are something I'd like to see a lot more of to be honest with you. You can encourage lewdness, they can all become hopeless criminals, but the girl who steals your clothes while you're sunbathing barely demands a thing and the crowd you pull to your doors after streaking in the orphanage never forces you, the most interaction you get is the bathing scene. It's a little sad tbh.

I wouldn't want this role forced on any of the current teachers. They all have established personalities and while i would certianly like to see them all fleshed out more i would like their progression to be more in line with the character they have already and not any real hard changes. That being said maybe as a substitute teacher that comes and goes but if new classes are added i'd like to see one with this archtype.
And my intention is to have a "hate" meter that starts off with the smaller bulling stuff but builds to the more dangerious stuff(whatever form that ends up taking) as the bar fills up then after a big thing cools off back to zero only to fill again as you piss them off more and more.
I guess we could talk about what kind of actions it would take to fill up the meter and what the pay offs could be (small to large events).

 

[eosar]

"Edit: Also should make multiple tax steps depending on popularity maybe. 50/40/30 or something like that?"

Sorry i don't understand this part could you break it down a bit?

Briar takes a cut of MC's profit as the matron/pimp. When starting out, it could be 50% of the pay. When the MC gets more fame, it goes down to 40%. When the MC is quite popular, it goes down further to 30%.

Maybe even make a leaderboard of sorts and the higher the rank, add "opportunities" for special requests of wealthier clients. Or even an auction for sale of virginity (all 3, together or separate), for a percentage of the final sale.

 

[atur]

There is, but transformations are a little underwhelming at the moment. The wolf transformation just gives you bite and i'm pretty sure there's a scene where one of the teachers takes you by the ears if you've been bad. I'm hoping in the future transformations will have a bigger effect on things, like cave scenes being more involved duo to being transformed. Being transformed doesn't matter much in general.

Also Transformations mean you have a good free Haloween costume though I do feel like there should be more people reacting to you being a supernatural being on a regualr bases dunno

 

[eosar]

Also Transformations mean you have a good free Haloween costume though I do feel like there should be more people reacting to you being a supernatural being on a regualr bases dunno

Yes. I would be expecting the church and its people to be more fanatic when encountering either an angel transformation or a demonic one.

 

[Midge]

Yes. I would be expecting the church and its people to be more fanatic when encountering either an angel transformation or a demonic one.

I've posted on this before:
"The transformation stuff is interesting and has a whole out/in game story i'll try to summerise from Vrelnirs and others posts.
SO transformations were only to "pop" if your PC was hallucinating but bugged so that it happened regardless and was turned into a feature. From that it could be argued that transformations could be figments of your PCs imagination and as such others don't actually see you that way. BUT there are scenes in which the NPCs do interact with you(Winter or River grabs your wolf ears, Robin strokes you as a Cat). Mookie and i have been talking about more transformations on the Blogspot current(2.6.2)update message list(at length) check it out if you want, but we have been lobbying hard for more interactions and more Transformations(Merfolk being one). "
But with more open supernatural stuff being added like "the beast" we might get some more play.

 

[Mustang Flex]

I'm of two minds about the more fantastical elements of the game (transformations, monster girls/boys, etc) And that the game seems a little unsure about it being either real or just in your mind. Conceptually, both of these can be in the game, but I would personally like to see either a more solid line between reality and hallucination, or if the game would run with the concept and expand on it. Say, people in the town having different opinions on whether the fantasy elements exist or not, perhaps your own mental state ties into if you believe in that stuff. (Or, and I don't know if this is a good idea, but maybe throwing in a little cosmic horror lite. Encountering the fantastical might increase stress/trauma and the like)

 

[Midge]

So i've zeroed in on the "Brothel" problem and found that it's not really to do with the Brothel content(stripping, extra events[fan, group or pig shows] and glory holes) or even how early you can get to it but more to do with the prostitution events you can trigger.
With all the other Pro events they are either compleatly random to trigger(the street ones) or you have to grind a stat(seduction) really really hard just to get $100 consistantly(the Pub events and even then Brier will often send goons to either steal $500 from you or throw your ass to the gloyholes) and even the Club ones you have to pay the licence fee up front. But more importantly you can brute force the event to trigger often and without much effort.
Now lets compare the danger of getting the Pro events to the other high risk big $$$ paths, Crime and Treasure Hunting.
First Pro: If you dance too long the crowd will drag you off the stage and rape you, this can be stopped by stopping at lecherous or filled with carnal desire and then just retrying. Thats it.
Crime:First you have to raise the Skullduggery stat and your $$$ scales with each bigger skilled job with some big $$$ random gets. However while doing this you also raise your Crime level meaning the police will harrass you more(not dangerous unless they steal your cloathes) but when you passout and go to the Hospital the Cops will drag your ass to the pillory(where rape awaits you and you miss 24Hs of in-game time). But because you'll be constantly raising Crime this will ALWAYS happen when you passout and go to the Hospital. Plus all the little dangers waiting for you in each home and every NPC you steal from(mostly rape).
Treasure Hunting: The Treasures can only be found in the MOST dangerous parts of the game. The Forrest, Old Sewers, Lake Ruins and now the Trash Heap. Do i have to go into just how dangerous there areas are? The answer is VERY!
So compared to these it's more dangerous walking the streets then getting the Pro events at the Brothel and that i think is the "Brothel" problem. Quick, easly triggered, not dangerours big $$$.

 

[antediluvian]

I'm of two minds about the more fantastical elements of the game (transformations, monster girls/boys, etc) And that the game seems a little unsure about it being either real or just in your mind. Conceptually, both of these can be in the game, but I would personally like to see either a more solid line between reality and hallucination, or if the game would run with the concept and expand on it. Say, people in the town having different opinions on whether the fantasy elements exist or not, perhaps your own mental state ties into if you believe in that stuff.

I'm pretty sure the game deliberately leaves that in the air expressly because it's supposed to be part of the game's whole PTSD Simulator 2018 vibe; the MC is supposed to ask her/himself whether s/he's really losing her/his mind or not -- or especially, whether the city really is out to get her/him. Dr. Harper is of the firm opinion that none of it exists and that it's all in the character's head (all the while asking the player to go down on a dog). IMO, I think it's all real and the townspeople are simply in fervent denial because how could any of it possibly be real, you know? It's almost certainly related to the fact that the city was built on ancient ruins and whatnot. On the other hand, the game also gives you a bit of agency to decide whether monstergirls/boys are tied directly to your mental state, too. Keeping you guessing about whether it's real or not seems to be the point!

I'm also quite sure that Vrelnir has plans to flesh out all this stuff with more of the town's history, based on one of their replies to one of my feedback tracker requests back in August.

Lovecraftian horrors would be freaking fantastic, though.

 

[Mustang Flex]

I'm pretty sure the game deliberately leaves that in the air expressly because it's supposed to be part of the game's whole PTSD Simulator 2018 vibe; the MC is supposed to ask her/himself whether s/he's really losing her/his mind or not -- or especially, whether the city really is out to get her/him. Dr. Harper is of the firm opinion that none of it exists and that it's all in the character's head (all the while asking the player to go down on a dog). IMO, I think it's all real and the townspeople are simply in fervent denial because how could any of it possibly be real, you know? It's almost certainly related to the fact that the city was built on ancient ruins and whatnot. On the other hand, the game also gives you a bit of agency to decide whether monstergirls/boys are tied directly to your mental state, too. Keeping you guessing about whether it's real or not seems to be the point!

I'm also quite sure that Vrelnir has plans to flesh out all this stuff with more of the town's history, based on one of their replies to one of my feedback tracker requests back in August.

Lovecraftian horrors would be freaking fantastic, though.

I would indeed be glad if expanding on these things is in the cards. To clarify, the thing I have mixed feelings about is that the fantasy elements are treated different from one another. Monster girls/boys are by default only a thing if you hallucinate them, but your transformations (if enabled) are unambiguously real. I am wondering, if perhaps it would be better to apply the same potential explanation(s) for what exactly these things are across the board. (perhaps add some potential monster girls/boys that can show up without you tripping balls (outside the option that makes them real in the menu), or some transformations that only happen when tripping)

 

[andy6915]

So i've zeroed in on the "Brothel" problem and found that it's not really to do with the Brothel content(stripping, extra events[fan, group or pig shows] and glory holes) or even how early you can get to it but more to do with the prostitution events you can trigger.
With all the other Pro events they are either compleatly random to trigger(the street ones) or you have to grind a stat(seduction) really really hard just to get $100 consistantly(the Pub events and even then Brier will often send goons to either steal $500 from you or throw your ass to the gloyholes) and even the Club ones you have to pay the licence fee up front. But more importantly you can brute force the event to trigger often and without much effort.
Now lets compare the danger of getting the Pro events to the other high risk big $$$ paths, Crime and Treasure Hunting.
First Pro: If you dance too long the crowd will drag you off the stage and rape you, this can be stopped by stopping at lecherous or filled with carnal desire and then just retrying. Thats it.
Crime:First you have to raise the Skullduggery stat and your $$$ scales with each bigger skilled job with some big $$$ random gets. However while doing this you also raise your Crime level meaning the police will harrass you more(not dangerous unless they steal your cloathes) but when you passout and go to the Hospital the Cops will drag your ass to the pillory(where rape awaits you and you miss 24Hs of in-game time). But because you'll be constantly raising Crime this will ALWAYS happen when you passout and go to the Hospital. Plus all the little dangers waiting for you in each home and every NPC you steal from(mostly rape).
Treasure Hunting: The Treasures can only be found in the MOST dangerous parts of the game. The Forrest, Old Sewers, Lake Ruins and now the Trash Heap. Do i have to go into just how dangerous there areas are? The answer is VERY!
So compared to these it's more dangerous walking the streets then getting the Pro events at the Brothel and that i think is the "Brothel" problem. Quick, easly triggered, not dangerours big $$$.

So... Where's the problem? Yes, getting in big with a professional prostitution establishment where you can make a career of whoring IS safer than looting ruins and stealing from people. Or is the problem that you think it makes the game too 'easy' compared to other money making methods and want the creator of the game to heavily nerf it or something?

 

[haven4ever]

Is there an option to be dominant in this game? (though obviously it's not really the game's theme)

 

[Ayumi T]

I imported my save to 0.2.7.2 and found a bug in the aftermath of the dinner party punishment.

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Happy with the Cafe change, after a few events I was able to get Sam to delighted finally.

 

[AdventureTales]

I dunno if this was mentioned (and I'm a little too lazy to go through over 100 pages to find it) but will there be pregnancy adaption to the game? Mainly for the female characters in the game like Kylar or Robin and maybe Whitney?

 

[Androinz]

When i save the game before a choice and then load it back, the event vanishes. Is this a bug or a feature? I didn't encounter something like this in the previous version.

Edit: It seems the problem is bound to that specific save file. I probably broke something. Well, time for a new character

 

[eosar]

Is there an option to be dominant in this game? (though obviously it's not really the game's theme)

The dominant part is fighting back. The submissive part is letting it happen/taking part.

I dunno if this was mentioned (and I'm a little too lazy to go through over 100 pages to find it) but will there be pregnancy adaption to the game? Mainly for the female characters in the game like Kylar or Robin and maybe Whitney?

There will be pregnancy. How much and how far remains to be seen.

When i save the game before a choice and then load it back, the event vanishes. Is this a bug or a feature? I didn't encounter something like this in the previous version.

Edit: It seems the problem is bound to that specific save file. I probably broke something. Well, time for a new character

It happened to me as well, but not sure if it's a save file issue. RNG events like student harrassment in class reset to no event upon load. Fixed events seemed to stick through loading.
I loaded a rng event save about 10-15 times and no other random event popped up at all so i'm inclined to believe it's rather a bug than a feature.

 

[Ayumi T]

When i save the game before a choice and then load it back, the event vanishes. Is this a bug or a feature? I didn't encounter something like this in the previous version.

Edit: It seems the problem is bound to that specific save file. I probably broke something. Well, time for a new character

It happened to me as well, but not sure if it's a save file issue. RNG events like student harrassment in class reset to no event upon load. Fixed events seemed to stick through loading.
I loaded a rng event save about 10-15 times and no other random event popped up at all so i'm inclined to believe it's rather a bug than a feature.

I've noticed this too. Could it actually be a fix, rather than a bug, to stop save-scummers like us?

 

[AdventureTales]

The dominant part is fighting back. The submissive part is letting it happen/taking part.


There will be pregnancy. How much and how far remains to be seen.


It happened to me as well, but not sure if it's a save file issue. RNG events like student harrassment in class reset to no event upon load. Fixed events seemed to stick through loading.
I loaded a rng event save about 10-15 times and no other random event popped up at all so i'm inclined to believe it's rather a bug than a feature.

Okay cool. That would be cool to see and whatnot. It would be interesting if there would be a "social status" of being known as a "breeder" and whatnot

 

[AislingoftheMist]

Okay cool. That would be cool to see and whatnot. It would be interesting if there would be a "social status" of being known as a "breeder" and whatnot

I believe he said you will be able to impregnate any named NPC you can have sex with, but not generic NPCs

 

[AdventureTales]

I believe he said you will be able to impregnate any named NPC you can have sex with, but not generic NPCs

I mean it doesn't mean that the other NPC could say to you while roaming around like "I heard they got multiple women pregnant..." or whatever

 

[Midge]

So... Where's the problem? Yes, getting in big with a professional prostitution establishment where you can make a career of whoring IS safer than looting ruins and stealing from people. Or is the problem that you think it makes the game too 'easy' compared to other money making methods and want the creator of the game to heavily nerf it or something?

If you go back to my Cafe update post on page 157 you can find the Pro problem in action, but basicaly it makes getting big money early in the game ridiculously easy and breaks the games dynamics of the scaling of getting money throughout the game. Making all the other "jobs" obsolete unless you "just" want the content they give.
And i have a possable proposal to "fix" it, gate that part of the job behind a time lock that releases when your rent reaches $2000. becaust that's the point in the game i feel you need access to those quicker higher paying jobs.