HTML Degrees of Lewdity [v0.5.4.5] [Vrelnir]

[YetAnotherUser]

Gee, I don't even know who I support or what I stand for anymore. Gotta go get some popcorn. The ride seem to be long.

 

[madchef]

OK guys, here are my brief observations from playing just the 1st day of the game as a boy.

First, the game's combat tutorial explains the actions:

There are three common ways to escape an attacker; fight them off, sexually satisfy them, or be rescued. Defiant (red) acts will hurt them. Hurt them enough and you'll escape. However, defiant acts will anger them, making them more violent.

They'll be happy to use you as a passive toy, but submissive (purple) acts will make them cum faster. Once spent, they'll usually leave you alone. Some submissive acts will occupy their genitals, so they can't use them in more dangerous ways.

Meek (pink) acts will endear you to them without being directly sexual. Meek acts will make them trust you more, and often have effects which may help you.

Bratty (brown) acts protect you in ways that defies your attacker's will without hurting them. Bratty acts will reduce trust and increase anger.

Finally, you could scream (brown) for help. Whether it will help or make things worse depends on who's around to hear. Screaming at night or in the wilderness will only anger your attacker. You won't be able to scream (or speak) if your attacker has you gagged. For this encounter, screaming will get you rescued. Each part of your body can perform one action per turn. Choose your actions, then click next or press enter to continue.

Now, setting the game with high female to male attraction, here's what I got:

Submissive acts:

- kissing (regardless of body part)
- stroking (regardless of body part)
- rubbing your butt against a woman's face
- penetrating a pussy
- teasing a pussy with penis
- pressing feet against a pussy
- enveloping a strap-on with anus
- pressing penis against a woman's anus
- cooperating with a female anus penetrated by your penis, meaning actively ass-fucking a woman
- cooperating with a strap-on penetrating your anus

Meek acts:

- pleading
- pressing your butt against a woman's mouth
- frotting against clit
- moaning 'do I look tasty?' to a female animal

I am not sure how divorced from reality you want your fantasies to be, but there is an ocean of a difference between fucking someone in the ass and getting fucked in the ass yourself. And no, no one will consider you a softie if you press your butt against their face and rub it in. And pressing your foot against a pussy is a very dominant move, believe me.

Defiant acts:

- punching
- kicking
- struggling

Bratty acts:

- screaming
- covering your penis from a woman's view
- pulling your butt away from a woman's mouth

Right, poor little boy whose weenie and cute little as those lecherous women all want to see and kiss...

First Combat's result:

You feel more confident in your ability to give pleasure with your anus (by letting a woman perform a tossed salad on you). All this time I though that getting rimmed is was about receiving, not giving pleasure.

I increased submissiveness by 17 points, again by letting a woman lick your butt. Now tell me this, with your Hands maxed out and submissiveness high (low?) enough will the male PCs stoop down to fisting women? Which form of fisting should feel more humiliating to them? Vaginal, anal, oral?

I then went to swim in the ocean and having reached the rock I could make a top out of seaweed. Why would a boy even think about covering their nipples if he's not interested in cross-dressing? Should a boy or a man be considered an exhibitionist when swimming topless?

Having been raped by an octopus and a school of female dolphins I fainted, only to be discovered washed ashore by a group of 3 girls. Soon another round of debauchery ensued. I let one girl fuck me with a strapon while I buggered the other.

"Your penis is ruthlessly fucked by their ass. You awkwardly push back against the movements."

The pain overwhelms you. | + + Willpower
You are in too much pain to act normally.

Now, isn't it just comedy gold, or am I simply not kinky enough to imagine the other girl's bowels are lined with barbed-wire? Because the exquisite pain couldn't have been caused by the pegging: she promised she'd be gentle with my ass.

In order to regain some control and dignity I went to the Brothel, just to learn to dance and undress in front of public. Memories of all those horrible experiences (she 'made' me fuck her ass and came from it, the horror the horror!) soon faded and I was in full control, serene and fine.

First day summary:

Submissiveness gain +164
Masochism gain +12
6 orgasms experienced
7 active (PCs penis in NPCs orifice) penetrations (1 anal on human female, 5 vaginal on dolphin female and 1 on tentacle)
3 passive (anal) penetrations
1 passive analingus acts (considered being orally penetrated)
17 dances resulting in exhibitionism raising from lv. 0 to 3.

Can anybody else here see that this is faaaaaaar removed from male sexual experiences, even in the realms of wild uninhibited fantasies? And that the main reason for that is that choosing a PCs gender doesn't change anything in this game beyond pronouns, dressing options and changing genitalia sprites. The paperdoll's anatomy is not that of a male.

 

[Rycharde's Realm]

Just walked out the pool changing room, ran out to the rear playground, was spotted, ran back to the pool changing room, and dressed. Nowhere in that was I given an Exhibition check. Sorry, running out into the school grounds just after the last bell and NO Exhibition check?

 

[MrCrazy123]

Can anybody else here see that this is faaaaaaar removed from male sexual experiences, even in the realms of wild uninhibited fantasies? And that the main reason for that is that choosing a PCs gender doesn't change anything in this game beyond pronouns, dressing options and changing genitalia sprites. The paperdoll's anatomy is not that of a male.

This is the part you are getting wrong. You are assuming things about 'male' that are simply untrue, you are using your own warped views of gender as some absolute truth and not the skewed perspective that it is.

It is weird and uncomfortable.

 

[Midge]

Can anybody else here see that this is faaaaaaar removed from male sexual experiences, even in the realms of wild uninhibited fantasies? And that the main reason for that is that choosing a PCs gender doesn't change anything in this game beyond pronouns, dressing options and changing genitalia sprites. The paperdoll's anatomy is not that of a male.

Seems legit. I give my full support to the last part were you say "that choosing a PCs gender doesn't change anything in this game beyond pronouns, dressing options and changing genitalia sprites." You hit the nail on the head with that statement. Now if only you would believe that. And i think that whole thing is far removed from ANYONES sexual experiences, i mean 3 dofins raped you and you could make a top from seaweed. Just a quick question about that last one. Could you still leave the ocean without a top? Could doesn't equal "have to". I could make a hat out of newspaper when ever i see one but that doesn't mean i have to. It's all about the options. Oh and barbwire bowels Betty just became a new nightmare of mine. Thanks for that.

 

[Midge]

Just walked out the pool changing room, ran out to the rear playground, was spotted, ran back to the pool changing room, and dressed. Nowhere in that was I given an Exhibition check. Sorry, running out into the school grounds just after the last bell and NO Exhibition check?

It's harder to get those early lower level exhibition checks, they were removed ages ago from toilets and stuff because you could abuse it by going in and out. You are better off stripping at the brothel till you get it to the level you want.

 

[Rycharde's Realm]

PS: A 14-16 yo boy I'd still find too big to be sexually 'assaultable' by a woman. But hey, what do I know, already at 193cms height and 90kgs weight at that age? All she could do was to get drunk, seduce a sexually frustrated underage boy and regret it the morning after.

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[Rycharde's Realm]

It's harder to get those early lower level exhibition checks, they were removed ages ago from toilets and stuff because you could abuse it by going in and out. You are better off stripping at the brothel till you get it to the level you want.

I wasn't trying to do the Exhibition check, I just wanted to do some exhibition. Anyhoo I'm close to popping exhibition 3 so would not have help in gaining Ex points.

 

[MrCrazy123]

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Fucking this, it's frankly disgusting some of the things being said in the thread right now. I know porn sites aren't the place to go for enlightened discussion but come on.

 

[Rycharde's Realm]

I noticed the 'run for 30-mins' removal of Ex-1. Yeah, Exhibition 1 on a 30-minute jog was kinda lame. Maybe Ex-3 or 4.

 

[Rycharde's Realm]

Fucking this, it's frankly disgusting some of the things being said in the thread right now. I know porn sites aren't the place to go for enlightened discussion but come on.

Normally I do not bring in Wikipedia quotes to a porn site, but you have made this bit about how men are not raped, especially by women. I got tired of seeing this so I rebutted your statement. Nothing more, nothing less. ¯\(°_o)/¯

 

[MrCrazy123]

Normally I do not bring in Wikipedia quotes to a porn site, but you have made this bit about how men are not raped, especially by women. I got tired of seeing this so I rebutted your statement. Nothing more, nothing less. ¯\(°_o)/¯

No I'm the guy agreeing with you. It's the other dude saying disgusting shit about gender roles and how the male character in this game is just a female in disguise because he doesn't just decide to dominantly fuck all the women.

So I mean 'fucking this' as in like 'I second this guy's point'

 

[Rycharde's Realm]

No I'm the guy agreeing with you. It's the other dude saying disgusting shit about gender roles and how the male character in this game is just a female in disguise because he doesn't just decide to dominantly fuck all the women.

So I mean 'fucking this' as in like 'I second this guy's point'

Oops. Keep mixing up MrCrazy and MadChief. Sowwy. It's the 'M' thang.

 

[Midge]

MrCrazy123 and
Rycharde
I actually agree with both of you on this point and am currently tying to impress this apon Madchef. I personnaly don't see how RL gender roles(percieved or not) even overlay with this game. and i brought up these same points earler with them.
So in case you think i'm against you on this, i'm not. Just making that clear.

 

[Rycharde's Realm]

I actually agree with both of you on this point and am currently tying to impress this apon Madchef. I personnaly don't see how RL gender roles(percieved or not) even overlay with this game. and i brought up these same points earler with them.
So in case you think i'm against you on this, i'm not. Just making that clear.

Fully understood before I brought in the great god Wiki.

 

[Sphere42]

Maybe. It depends on how comprehensive the game is. I usually try to not make "generalities" when talking about a game when specifics would work better. I want to know what YOU see this game as. Do you see this game as being purely a submissive experiance? And why? I mostly agree with the rest of what you said. And is asking for more(of anything) a bad thing?

"Underdog" not "submissive". In Slave Maker or Stationmaster the entire premise and the core gameplay revolve around you being in control of other people regardless of the genders involved. It does not make sense for the player to act submissive outside of bad ends (including "soft" or temporary ones) but there still are bigger fish you need to acquiesce or avoid every now and then. Conversely in this game the odds are stacked against you and submitting/cooperating is the default. Occasionally you can fight back outright and get away with it but doing so will accomplish nothing to change the world around you.

I definitely do not oppose "opening up" the game at later stages but as I already mentioned somewhere we're at least 1-2 major content chains away from making that credible. For example even if we could become a trusted partner to Landry or Briar (which is kinda realistic once you've done all the current skulduggery/brothel content respectively) you would still need to deal with Bailey considering you their property. Even assuming Bailey isn't hiding even more power they clearly have a lot of influence in both political and criminal circles so that would likely result in an open gang war of sorts. And most such avenues would have little to no sexual content for a successful PC.

But honestly given the context of this site I'm more surprised at the lack of easy "mindbroken"/"complete slut" play styles. "You can't rape the willing" as they say, so where's the character creation option to turn every encounter consensual short of someone attacking you with a knife or gun? Sure it undermines the premise just as much but at least it would be easy since the writing for consensual encounters already exists.

Personally I'd mainly like more bodily fluids, tentacle, swarm, parasite(/symbiote!) and pregnancy/oviposition content, a kind of Parasite Infection or Porn Cthulhu route maybe. But I understand those to be niche fetishes with only tangential relevance to the core setting so I try to not harp on about that.

Can anybody else here see that this is faaaaaaar removed from male sexual experiences, even in the realms of wild uninhibited fantasies?

I am not female but plenty of actions feel misrepresented or out-of-place if interpreted incorrectly even as a female PC, and some are just outright wrong for the sake of game mechanics. For example you can walk up to a mother taking her kids to the beach, flirt with her, seduce her into sex then switch between rubbing her clit, teasing her pussy with your feet (think of the sand, OUCH!) and eating her out while you frantically kiss and caress her. With sufficient sexual skill (and some RNG luck/savescumming) you can go through 2-3 of these women without cumming yourself. Every single one of these sex acts is classified as "Submissive" (purple) during the encounter, and pressing your butt in her face when she tries to eat you out is classified as "Meek" (pink). And if it were available punch-fisting her in both her holes would be too, unless you use the Secret Ninja Art: Ovary Crush special move (if you aren't easily grossed out search for John K Pe-Ta).

 

[Kinky_One]

Let me just ask something not related to the current:

Is there an easy way to lose willpower? Because i seem to gain a lot just by virtue of cumming.

 

[YetAnotherUser]

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My hero.

And that's the real world, not even a fantasy world where exists a strange pink fog that presumably makes people and animals go bonkers and overly sexual. Do some of you guys really think that people in the game rape the main character just because they are bad? There are many hints that imply that the townfolks are under the influence, especially at night. What if exposure also grants inhuman strength too? There was this cool theory somewhere here on this forum that looked into the stuff like the pink fog, darkness and crystals, which I can't recommend enough.

Also, what exactly do y'all suggest Vrelnir do about the current combat system and sex in general? Add an action in the streets to 'Look for someone to rape'? So far I've read numerous pages filled with mostly useless fighting over how people want or want not to make male characters feel more male and aggressive. I mean, you can already fight off almost all opponents (bar Bailey with bodyguards or a group of attackers) if you are big and strong. Just spam the would-be rapists with punches, kicks and demands, and don't forget to spray them. Is it not good enough? Or do you want to uno reverse and rape them if you win?

I mean, you could if you inhaled too much fog, but nah

I'm pretty sure Vrelnir mentioned somewhere that they will try to overhaul the current system in the future, which will likely involve a more direct way to control consensual intercourses, like asking for a blowjob/cunnilingus/anilingus, asking for a kiss or to take you from the front/back, etc. So instead of yelling of how your vision is superiour to the others' vision, just present the community with an elaborate essay. Throw in some nice ideas. The dev is known for browsing this and other forums. Sure, if you manage to write a compelling suggestion list, they will consider it.

 

[ladguru]

I noticed the 'run for 30-mins' removal of Ex-1. Yeah, Exhibition 1 on a 30-minute jog was kinda lame. Maybe Ex-3 or 4.

It's EXH 3 atm.

EXH-handling has currently some flaws. Most likely because of:

It's harder to get those early lower level exhibition checks, they were removed ages ago from toilets and stuff because you could abuse it by going in and out.

In my last life I MC spend some time with Eden to do the demon-detox and earn the feat.
To save clothes I used only the loincloth. Until... I couldn't close the wardrobe!?
Yeah, though I did things which required high EXH 24/7, EXH was dropping to the point I couldn't do them anymore.

It's a bit bit tricky. Keep the amount and complexity of code in check and prevent easy exploitation on the other hand.
Skill-checks which do not raise the skill should at least prevent the skill to drop below this point at midnight.

 

[Midge]

"Underdog" not "submissive". In Slave Maker or Stationmaster the entire premise and the core gameplay revolve around you being in control of other people regardless of the genders involved. It does not make sense for the player to act submissive outside of bad ends (including "soft" or temporary ones) but there still are bigger fish you need to acquiesce or avoid every now and then. Conversely in this game the odds are stacked against you and submitting/cooperating is the default. Occasionally you can fight back outright and get away with it but doing so will accomplish nothing to change the world around you.

I definitely do not oppose "opening up" the game at later stages but as I already mentioned somewhere we're at least 1-2 major content chains away from making that credible. For example even if we could become a trusted partner to Landry or Briar (which is kinda realistic once you've done all the current skulduggery/brothel content respectively) you would still need to deal with Bailey considering you their property. Even assuming Bailey isn't hiding even more power they clearly have a lot of influence in both political and criminal circles so that would likely result in an open gang war of sorts. And most such avenues would have little to no sexual content for a successful PC.

But honestly given the context of this site I'm more surprised at the lack of easy "mindbroken"/"complete slut" play styles. "You can't rape the willing" as they say, so where's the character creation option to turn every encounter consensual short of someone attacking you with a knife or gun? Sure it undermines the premise just as much but at least it would be easy since the writing for consensual encounters already exists.

Personally I'd mainly like more bodily fluids, tentacle, swarm, parasite(/symbiote!) and pregnancy/oviposition content, a kind of Parasite Infection or Porn Cthulhu route maybe. But I understand those to be niche fetishes with only tangential relevance to the core setting so I try to not harp on about that.


I am not female but plenty of actions feel misrepresented or out-of-place if interpreted incorrectly even as a female PC, and some are just outright wrong for the sake of game mechanics. For example you can walk up to a mother taking her kids to the beach, flirt with her, seduce her into sex then switch between rubbing her clit, teasing her pussy with your feet (think of the sand, OUCH!) and eating her out while you frantically kiss and caress her. With sufficient sexual skill (and some RNG luck/savescumming) you can go through 2-3 of these women without cumming yourself. Every single one of these sex acts is classified as "Submissive" (purple) during the encounter, and pressing your butt in her face when she tries to eat you out is classified as "Meek" (pink). And if it were available punch-fisting her in both her holes would be too, unless you use the Secret Ninja Art: Ovary Crush special move (if you aren't easily grossed out search for John K Pe-Ta).

Finally! Someone who gets it. A good response if ever i saw one.
There was talk about "mindbreak" being a playstye a while back but i don't know what became of it. You even added in-game context by saying "become a trusted partner to Landry or Briar" and having to deal with Bailey at somepoint. Something i've greatly wanted to talk about. There were dicussions with me and others on the Blogspot ages ago about Landry having a gang and you can learn your skulldugery levels through them(pick pocketing, safe cracking etc).
If there is anything in-game/game related you want to talk about i'm game!