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Would be good if the pc could actually be the violator when a npc is in the stocks just one time to let the pc be the top since no options to do so in the wild. So to speak.
 

Midge

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No shade, i'm just trying to work some stuff out feel free to help. BIG MASSIVE SPOILERS

So here are some of the New Cafe Content problems i've come across peeps saying and how it ties into what i feel to be a bigger problem. This will be about the Cafe content and not any bugs or other stuff like that.
So a big problem(concern?) is the time it takes to get to the new content. That at the moment has 2 steps involved that i know of so i'm going to cover those.

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Now before we get to the meat of the problem some might have with these times let me add that Vrel in a post i read about this kind of stuff said "The cafe job isn't supposed to be too quick " (and thats in context so don't @ me) which is fine. i'm guessing that Vrels intent on why they made the targets like this is so the content wouldn't be knocked over in a single sitting but chipped at over time. But this leads ultimately to the underlying problem of...

TIME SPENT VS REWARDS GIVEN: There is alot to do in this game and to get alot of the content you have to grind. But while the start of the game(the first 3 weeks or so) is more about finding out what works for the player it gets real hard real quick then slows significantly as you find your groove. And of course i'm talking about making money. Now most Jobs in the game pays next to nothing(even 12hrs at the Docks net you $120 to begin with) and having the time to do the school stuff and grind a job to make rent(and a little to spend on cloathes and a new console for someone) and follow the Event Threads can be a bit much untill.....you find the Brothel then all your money problems vanish(you can make upwards of $1500 a DAY).
So the bigger picture problem i can see is that its not very rewarding using the very limited time you have to chip at what seems like an endless task with little in the way of benifits(little pay untill you get to Chef{i don't know if this Jobs pay incresses helpped out with the upto $4000 rent thing} and with all the time spent with not much to show untill you hit the Events) when you can just take the "Quick and dirty" option of the Brothel and still have pleanty of time for digging in the trash heap( still waiting on more non cloathing items to spend on).

FIX: To be honest i don't know if this could be solved satisfactory. If you just shorten the goals then you take away thats it's suppost to last the player awhile and not get done in an "Afternoon". But it already rases its salery in the Chef phase so that already lessens the extent of the money issue. Maybe reducing the Hours you can work at the Brothel like with the club and Docks might help IDK.
Anyway i hope that covers what i beleive to be the major issue(besides all the bugs ;) ) that peeps have with this new stuff. Please comment with suggestions or anything i missed.
 
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eosar

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More tips and events as a waiter/waitress. If you open the floodgates for harrassment, increase the number of perverts eventually showing up while keeping it low key. More risk, more reward. But anything too direct and get on Sam's bad side.

More variety in bun making. Use the instruments available or bring own toys for help. Or gather some milk/cream beforehand in a sealed container, not necessarily your own. (The beach science fair "interviews" come to mind)

Maybe having a helper. Convince Sam to let an orphan help for shared pay, increasing production rate. The orphan can either be Robin after school with high love or a random one, depending on the hope/rebel stats for their own percentage of payment.

Or go Van Wilder style and use the dogs in the alley for extra creamy buns...

Brothel pay should depend on two things: customer attraction and skill. The customer can like a certain appearance, for which they will pay more, and pay even more depending on player skill. Or they won't care about appearance, only about skill. If neither, then crappy pay.

Edit: Also should make multiple tax steps depending on popularity maybe. 50/40/30 or something like that?
 
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iamnuff

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The nude modeling interests me, but the cafe stuff required to get there really doesn't.

Bodily fluids mixed into food is... very not my thing.
Not to kinkshame anyone, but ew.
 
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Midge

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This is adressing
eosar

"More tips and events as a waiter/waitress. If you open the floodgates for harrassment, increase the number of perverts eventually showing up while keeping it low key. More risk, more reward. But anything too direct and get on Sam's bad side. "

This stuff is already in there(except for the Sam thing it's bugged apparently) unless you mean MORE more i suppose uping the fequency of tips might be ok but's that still going to be RNG based to get those events and still might not break the numbers needed on the Tax before you get to the Chef content(using the school path and not the go all out path) but i think with this your saying "make it more intersting for the player" right? I think it's interesting enough just not enught to put up with the massive grind + the pay issue.

"More variety in bun making. Use the instruments available or bring own toys for help. Or gather some milk/cream beforehand in a sealed container, not necessarily your own. (The beach science fair "interviews" come to mind) Maybe having a helper. Convince Sam to let an orphan help for shared pay, increasing production rate. The orphan can either be Robin after school with high love or a random one, depending on the hope/rebel stats for their own percentage of payment
Or go Van Wilder style and use the dogs in the alley for extra creamy buns..."

Maybe? I do like being able to "bring a friend" if you can convince Sam and of course Toys when they're a thing would be good also but worried about the "freshness" of using anything collected before hand. I suppose alowing things to help with the targets would be better then reducing the targets altogeather while adding variety to the bun making grind. Good stuff mostly!

"Brothel pay should depend on two things: customer attraction and skill. The customer can like a certain appearance, for which they will pay more, and pay even more depending on player skill. Or they won't care about appearance, only about skill. If neither, then crappy pay"

The Brothel stuff already adds alot complex calculations going towards how much it pays you(i'm probably going to miss some). Just stripping for example needs: Good Dance skill, Filling the AWE meter(by removing 4 bits of cloathing) then grinding out as may tips as you can and landing a privite time with a patron before they pull you off the stage to rape you. I think wearing costumes(nun/bunnygirl/anyothers) should factor into it somehow maybe through increased tips. But again this is the small change stuff, the real money comes from the privite time with a patron. Again with the complex calculations going towards how much it pays you the base pay is around $50 going uptowards $250/encounter. And it's this part that floods you with money. A customer took me aside and talked to me for abot 30mins(in game) for $200 no sex needed.

"Edit: Also should make multiple tax steps depending on popularity maybe. 50/40/30 or something like that?"

Sorry i don't understand this part could you break it down a bit?
 
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Callowayaway

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The nude modeling interests me, but the cafe stuff required to get there really doesn't.

Bodily fluids mixed into food is... very not my thing.
Not to kinkshame anyone, but ew.
If you aren't vegan, then you almost certainly already mix bodily fluids into your food. Cow milk is pretty much indistinguishable from human milk and eggs are basically chicken periods, and then there's eating flesh. Not to say I'm vegan, milk, chicken periods, and non-human animal flesh are all delicious. Except eating crab and lobster, I'm never going to eat ocean spider and ocean scorpion, fuck that noise.

Edit: I'm fibbing about the crab and lobster, by the way. I grew up near the ocean, so I have cracked open my share of crab legs and lobster claws and dipped their soft, sweet, succulent flesh in a delectable butter sauce often enough, but I am also a huge arachnophobe. Crazy what people can bring themselves to eat if it's tasty enough. Hotdogs prove that.
 
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antediluvian

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Hi Vrelnir, not sure how you might handle anonymous contributions, but I did up a quick pixel-job of a , if you're interested. I worked directly off the tattered school shirt. Stats are up to you, I just work here.

For anyone else having trouble building the source, given that tweego 2.0 was released, I also compiled the old , since tweego 2.0 doesn't work with the newer repository (unless they ported it sometime since I last checked in September). It's an executable, use at own risk, (one false positive from Cylance, whateverthefuckthatis), yadda yadda. I have zero motivation or incentive to do anything damaging to anonymous strangers, but that's up to the beholder to decide. =)
 
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NODOGAN

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help i'm on the deep forest tryng to find the bear, should i ignore the footprints whenever they appear or should i take a detour? also does disabling the vore tag makes it impossible for the bear to appear?
 

Duarchy

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In regards to the sadistic hateful teacher mentioned earlier, I don't think it's especially good to start out hated. I think it would be better if the teacher just got off on abusing power. You'd have two routs, directly let them start small with you, little liberties, or work on your "reputation" and the teacher will hear about it. Then maybe if you start refusing their advances the hate, or rather frustration really, begins to grow. But I don't feel like the higher hate should really coincide with more extreme acts, in fact I feel like the more they like you and the more they trust you the more confident they get in, say, teaching while fucking you or making the class run a train on you. I don't really know what kind of path the hate would go down, I'm not really interested either.

I think rather than outright adding a new teacher, it would be better if certain present teachers could be seduced into going down this rout. I mean you can already masturbate until one faints and then get gangbanged by the students. There's an easy in, add a scene where you convince the students to tie the teacher up and force her to fuck you too, then the class starts devolving from there.

On a completely different note, How do you appropriately respond to the bun-stealing orphan in order to encourage orphanage events? Because those are something I'd like to see a lot more of to be honest with you. You can encourage lewdness, they can all become hopeless criminals, but the girl who steals your clothes while you're sunbathing barely demands a thing and the crowd you pull to your doors after streaking in the orphanage never forces you, the most interaction you get is the bathing scene. It's a little sad tbh.
 

crash.7ds

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i think there is a cheat menu and you can enable transformations
There is, but transformations are a little underwhelming at the moment. The wolf transformation just gives you bite and i'm pretty sure there's a scene where one of the teachers takes you by the ears if you've been bad. I'm hoping in the future transformations will have a bigger effect on things, like cave scenes being more involved duo to being transformed. Being transformed doesn't matter much in general.
 
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Rycharde's Realm

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I've been glancing through some of the posts and have not found anything on restarting the game do to programming additions/subtractions. I take it means no restart needed... yet. ;)
 
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