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Since there doesn't seem to a preview/differences reel for DoLP's image packs (or if there are it's nigh impossible to find), I made one.

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The sex animations are the same as vanilla except in the mysterious packs.

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Frostberg has provided an official document on the differences on .
Though I have not paid attention to how up to date he keeps it.
 
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Lol yeah, figured I'd check back in, saw the last comment and couldn't resist the post

Actual question though, what's the mod situation looking like now? I imagine most of the ones I remember are now defunct or wholly outdated?
Yes, most of the mods from the 0.2.x era are defunct. The only one that really stuck around this whole time is Watersports mod. A couple of other mods from that era are still around but are being maintained by different people now. DoL+ is the spiritual successor to World Expansion, and the sprite replacement modding community is absolutely thriving now.
 
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My sugarcube commands don't work on dolp. Is it cuz I'm playing online version?
yes because it's being loaded in a frame

on firefox you can just open the frame in a new tab (for instance, > right click > This Frame > Open Frame in New Tab > brings you to )
The better solution, is to change the evaluation context within the firefox console. See below:

Eventually vanilla.dolmods.net will cease to exist, so helping people understand how to access the correct console context is the future proof solution.
 
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ZetaJackalope

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One of the most difficult TFs to grind in this game is the Fox TF. All the other ones basically fall into your lap. There's tons of wolves in the forest, to be a cat I just need to frequent the cafe, to be an angel/fallen/demon I just need to wait on lewds for a month or two, then lose the vcard, then drop purity into negatives. Harpy? The Great Eagle basically does that for you? Cows? Remy does that for you. Foxes?

I have to wander the woods, and pray that the RNG gives me an event for a single fucking point. You'd be lucky to get one in a day without savescumming, which would just poof away at midnight. So, if I want to be a fox, I'm looking at hours of fruitless searching and savescumming, just to plant a damned egg into the ground. And if I remember right, I need to do this so many times before the game will let me earn points through skullduggery, which itself is it's own uphill battle!

It's honestly ridiculous for this level of difficulty just for a fox tf. There really needs to be a better way, here.
 

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One of the most difficult TFs to grind in this game is the Fox TF. All the other ones basically fall into your lap. There's tons of wolves in the forest, to be a cat I just need to frequent the cafe, to be an angel/fallen/demon I just need to wait on lewds for a month or two, then lose the vcard, then drop purity into negatives. Harpy? The Great Eagle basically does that for you? Cows? Remy does that for you. Foxes?

I have to wander the woods, and pray that the RNG gives me an event for a single fucking point. You'd be lucky to get one in a day without savescumming, which would just poof away at midnight. So, if I want to be a fox, I'm looking at hours of fruitless searching and savescumming, just to plant a damned egg into the ground. And if I remember right, I need to do this so many times before the game will let me earn points through skullduggery, which itself is it's own uphill battle!

It's honestly ridiculous for this level of difficulty just for a fox tf. There really needs to be a better way, here.
In most of the fox events there are ways to get multiple points in each event.
I only 'savescummed' my way through those until I'd memorized the events. Basically, save at the start of the encounter and then try each choice to see which set of choices/actions netted the most points.
Once I'd memorized them, the Fox TF became one of the quickest to get though.
 

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In most of the fox events there are ways to get multiple points in each event.
I only 'savescummed' my way through those until I'd memorized the events. Basically, save at the start of the encounter and then try each choice to see which set of choices/actions netted the most points.
Once I'd memorized them, the Fox TF became one of the quickest to get though.
Issue is, those require you to have upped either tending, athletics, or skullduggery to reliably pass. Which I find inane when I can just go wandering in the woods, zero prep, become a slut for wolves, and come out with the relevant transformation in less than a week. In fact, I don't think the other TFs require as much or any in the way of skill prep to get points.
 

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There is something to be said for how hard it is to get the fox TF in comparison to the others but there is also something to be said that not everything needs to be the same difficulty to achieve.
 

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Issue is, those require you to have upped either tending, athletics, or skullduggery to reliably pass. Which I find inane when I can just go wandering in the woods, zero prep, become a slut for wolves, and come out with the relevant transformation in less than a week. In fact, I don't think the other TFs require as much or any in the way of skill prep to get points.
Fair point.
I sometimes forget I'm not 'starting from scratch'.
Any time I start a new game, I dig up an old save and load up my feats. So I've got plenty of Vrelcoin to spend on improving my starting stats.
 
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There is something to be said for how hard it is to get the fox TF in comparison to the others but there is also something to be said that not everything needs to be the same difficulty to achieve.
At the same time, more difficult to achieve objectives should have a proportionately good payout, which the fox TF is lacking. At this point, I'm just fishing for fox points for RP purposes.

Fair point.
I sometimes forget I'm not 'starting from scratch'.
Any time I start a new game, I dig up an old save and load up my feats. So I've got plenty of Vrelcoin to spend on improving my starting stats.
That there is part of my problem. I forget do DL my saves before I nuke my browser history, so I'm always starting from scratch. It'd be nice for a more reliable location to come across foxes and their events, outside of the ever-clogged forest.
 
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That there is part of my problem. I forget do DL my saves before I nuke my browser history, so I'm always starting from scratch. It'd be nice for a more reliable location to come across foxes and their events, outside of the ever-clogged forest.
Feel your pain there. Lost my copies of saves awhile back.
But if you search the thread you can find some saves with near-complete feats.
Just use one of those instead of starting from scratch again.
 

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One of the most difficult TFs to grind in this game is the Fox TF. All the other ones basically fall into your lap. There's tons of wolves in the forest, to be a cat I just need to frequent the cafe, to be an angel/fallen/demon I just need to wait on lewds for a month or two, then lose the vcard, then drop purity into negatives. Harpy? The Great Eagle basically does that for you? Cows? Remy does that for you. Foxes?

I have to wander the woods, and pray that the RNG gives me an event for a single fucking point. You'd be lucky to get one in a day without savescumming, which would just poof away at midnight. So, if I want to be a fox, I'm looking at hours of fruitless searching and savescumming, just to plant a damned egg into the ground. And if I remember right, I need to do this so many times before the game will let me earn points through skullduggery, which itself is it's own uphill battle!

It's honestly ridiculous for this level of difficulty just for a fox tf. There really needs to be a better way, here.
Wonder what location would fit. Maybe a Shinto shrine or something? Fox miko's a pretty common archetype.
 
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Feel your pain there. Lost my copies of saves awhile back.
But if you search the thread you can find some saves with near-complete feats.
Just use one of those instead of starting from scratch again.
I'll hunt some down, thanks.

Wonder what location would fit. Maybe a Shinto shrine or something? Fox miko's a pretty common archetype.
Fox Miko sounds peak, not going to lie.
 

ZetaJackalope

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Feel your pain there. Lost my copies of saves awhile back.
But if you search the thread you can find some saves with near-complete feats.
Just use one of those instead of starting from scratch again.
I found one on page 871, but it appears that when I click on the attached file, it just opens up a tab filled with text. Am I doing something wrong?
 

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I found one on page 871, but it appears that when I click on the attached file, it just opens up a tab filled with text. Am I doing something wrong?
I don't use it (and it's been awhile since I actually played), but I seem to remember one of the 'save to file' options being a txt file. I'm assuming that's what those 2 files are.
Should be a way to load those text files into DoL, but I can't talk you through it atm. I don't have it DoL installed atm.
 
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You can reroll the RNG by saving and loading. For example, if the events are A - B - C - D and you want to avoid D, you can simply shuffle the events so that they are A - B - D, or you can insert an extra event in between, such as A - B - C- B - C - D. This will reroll the RNG once more, and so on, as long as you can create different combinations of events, everything is possible.
Doesn't work. Had a housekeeping lesson with a test, saved at the beginning, tried all combinations, but regardless of the sequence I always failed the test despite 82% success chance. It would've been helluva lot better if there was a reload button, like in Course of Temptation. Or at least if reloading changed the rng seed.
 

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Doesn't work. Had a housekeeping lesson with a test, saved at the beginning, tried all combinations, but regardless of the sequence I always failed the test despite 82% success chance. It would've been helluva lot better if there was a reload button, like in Course of Temptation. Or at least if reloading changed the rng seed.
The beginning of what? The day or the single screen for the test itself? If you mean you saved at the screen for the test, I'm pretty sure the percentage requirement to pass the test is fixed at that point; it's more a matter of whether you reach that percentage or not through your actions. Admittedly I could be wrong here, but my experience has been that the +5%/+10% makes far less of a difference in passing a test than whatever requirement rolled up at the test screen.

If you want to change RNG for the test you need to be doing something different before the test screen. So, if you are really concerned about passing a test that week and want to try and game RNG, you should be making a save before you enter the class (for Housekeeping, the latest time with the most "wiggle room" for event/RNG manipulation would be at 9:59 - assuming you wanted to save whatever results that happened prior to that). As long as you enter class before 10:05 you aren't going to trigger delinquency, though even then having to stay late or get spanked is better than waiting another week to get a recipe.
 

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The beginning of what? The day or the single screen for the test itself? If you mean you saved at the screen for the test, I'm pretty sure the percentage requirement to pass the test is fixed at that point; it's more a matter of whether you reach that percentage or not through your actions. Admittedly I could be wrong here, but my experience has been that the +5%/+10% makes far less of a difference in passing a test than whatever requirement rolled up at the test screen.

If you want to change RNG for the test you need to be doing something different before the test screen. So, if you are really concerned about passing a test that week and want to try and game RNG, you should be making a save before you enter the class (for Housekeeping, the latest time with the most "wiggle room" for event/RNG manipulation would be at 9:59 - assuming you wanted to save whatever results that happened prior to that). As long as you enter class before 10:05 you aren't going to trigger delinquency, though even then having to stay late or get spanked is better than waiting another week to get a recipe.
Beginning of the lesson. Basically 4 screens before the test. Tried all stuff (focusing/socializing/relaxing, ignoring/not harassment, focusing/relaxing on test), but all roads led to me failing it. It's also the same in other cases, e.g. if I break into a house and get spotted by a cat/dog, even if I reload and do smth else before breaking in the house again, almost always it has the same result. Hell, there was a time when I went back to the orphanage and slept and only then returned, still ran into it lol. It's like all cases get predetermined at some point and the only way to avoid that pattern is to do smth else altogether. Which kinda sucks.

Btw active delinquency isn't that bad, the only downside is being unable to hang out with Syd or walk back home with Robin. You can easily get out of school by hopping the fence in the backyard.

Why are recipes valuable though? Never had any need to use any of them yet.

Also, is there any place to get clothes besides the clothing shop in the shopping centre? Got caught stealing there a few times, now it's unavailable during the day and during the night there's always a guard and no way around them. Or alternatively, is there any way to mend damaged clothes or prevent them from being destroyed?
 

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Doesn't work. Had a housekeeping lesson with a test, saved at the beginning, tried all combinations, but regardless of the sequence I always failed the test despite 82% success chance. It would've been helluva lot better if there was a reload button, like in Course of Temptation. Or at least if reloading changed the rng seed.
the exams is not something that you can savescum. at the start of the week it rolls the value from 1 to 100 that your skill has to surpass. you can luck out or get a high gate, but it happens way in advance of the actual exams so savescummers can suffer.
 
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the exams is not something that you can savescum. at the start of the week it rolls the value from 1 to 100 that your skill has to surpass. you can luck out or get a high gate, but it happens way in advance of the actual exams so savescummers can suffer.
Learned something new! I figured it was set sometime in advance, but exactly when was opaque. Good to know, though.

Why are recipes valuable though? Never had any need to use any of them yet.

Also, is there any place to get clothes besides the clothing shop in the shopping centre? Got caught stealing there a few times, now it's unavailable during the day and during the night there's always a guard and no way around them. Or alternatively, is there any way to mend damaged clothes or prevent them from being destroyed?
I don't think there are too many recipes with high value, though I suppose for a new player you could potentially luck out and get a decent recipe that's easy to make and relatively high value to sell at the stall? I feel like probability of that is pretty low, especially if you aren't playing DoLP, but I'm pretty sure even something like porridge is at least more valuable time/effort-wise than some of the other low-paying jobs (chalets, early cafe) and comes with the added bonus of having zero potential for harassment while making them, AFAIK. Hardly amazing, but would get you through the first week, maybe? Though so far I feel like food is mostly for love interest interactions.

As for the clothes, the tailor can fix clothes (assuming you can still access?), and if you had turned on the auto-buy option before getting barred you might(?) still auto-buy destroyed clothes despite not being able to go in the shop, maybe. Aside from that, in terms of shops I can think of the forest shop, the school library, and the Gingham clothes that sometimes come up when looking through the market stalls. Other sources include Leighton (showing up to school in non-school attire), Morgan (not ideal, but sometimes dresses you in starter clothes), the random encounter with the bimbo clothes, and the catsuit from the docks. Not an exhaustive list, but at least some of the more easily accessed ones, anyway.

Ed: Just tested the exams thing - there might be a set roll for the standard tests, but at least as of current version (0.5.4.4) you can manipulate RNG for the Housekeeping exam on Thursday. I had different recipes come up as a result of trying different actions, some of which I could pass, and some of which I failed (@ only a ~50% pass chance).
 
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