eosar

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Are you hands not working in all encounters, or just some?

Female PC's vaginas can fit all penis sizes, though bigger ones might cause pain.
Uhhhhh... Any first random combat scene at least. Didn't check past it, so i can't say. I'll try more than one and let you know after.

And would you consider changing it so that bigger sizes won't fit smaller holes? Possibly optional?
 
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Honestly, I can't help but agree on the game being way too grindy at this point to justify starting a new game outside of softcore with cheats disabled just to get bonuses for making a new character. My main file was one with several months and updates worth of progress with cheats enabled only to get out of broken events safely and prevent myself from getting soft-locked at points. Making a new character just to get benefits on making another new character after that with the possibility of certain benefits being locked permanently if gone about the wrong way (if I read the changelog right)? That's a huge "No Thanks" from me.
Games still in early development at this point, so there are still many things that could drastically change, including effects that could be applied to new characters to change the way u play like the recent background that was added.

Part of the reason why I worked on the feats was to reduce the grind early on, its limited as it is at the moment but new things could easily be added to it.

Unless I'm mistaken, the achievements just mean you can make your starting character a little better. Why would you care about this at all if you're using cheats anyway?
That and something else, tho as u said, everything the feats can do, the cheats can do, its more for those that are looking for a challenge and enjoy doing the more serious runs without cheats. Bugs themselves arnt too big of a problem unless its right after the initial update generally, and even then, saving the game can help u avoid problems.
 

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The bonuses aren't even a big deal, as far as I can tell, it's just random bonus starting clothes. If you're anything like me it's useless because I like to have my outfits matching. Maybe there'll be more rewards in the future. Might help if you get stripped day one or something while swimming if you manage to rng a bonus swimsuit, but otherwise, meh. Just gives you some stuff to aim for.

I agree on the game taking a while to unlock crap. I don't feel like there's really enough content to make it worth playing that long atm. I still usually don't stick with a save file for more than 2 months or so. You can be pretty set on money/stats in like 2 weeks and then what do you do? All the later content seems to be romancing peeps but I'm not super interested in that.

For me this is kinda a survival game (I often restart if I'm raped...oral doesn't count lol) but there aren't many threats after a week or two. I'm not really sure what the dev is aiming for with the game play style. It's like at first you have to do everything you can do avoid being gang raped over and over again, and pay off the head bitch. By a week or two neither of those are really issues though, you can avoid being raped by keeping them away with hands/feet/thighs/butt pretty quickly, and money is pretty easy with thieving, dancing, and diving (Diving is still broken, I try to avoid using it if I want a challenge lol).

I'm not a fan of locking a lot of the "normal" money making behind relationships with certain people like working at the cafe. I guess there's still the bartender job. Maybe I'll try that this playthrough.

I dunno, where's the threat/challenge/interest for people after that point? I've tried kinda roleplaying certain game play types like only making money in certain ways or something, but there's not a lot of content outside trying to have consensual sexin time with everybody. Maybe just need to take a break and wait for more updates lol.
It seems there are 11 starting effects you can choose from with the feats not just rando cloathes(i've got extra money as well), you just need to unlock them by getting some of the speciffic Achievos first(it lists the ones you need in the starting boost tab at CG). But i'm going to try to unlock all the Achevos before i restart and hope my saves make it to the next update.

I also usually play untill i find all the new content now or untill just after the Halloween event as it's the last of the big in-game events, but you should try to make it to
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just once.

You say there arn't many threats but then also say you restart after being sexed, are you just looking for more harder opponents to assault you at random(like Morgan and Edan) because their are some hard fights in there you just have to look for them. Oh and the 3 night dogs seem to be hounding me more often lately.

I don't mind having to smoose the boss to get a better paying job/raise in this.

And yeah after finding the new stuff and following the plot threads i like you kind of have to make your own fun, it is a sandbox after all.
 

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I had cheats active in case a bug happened I could undo it or get out of the situation by using the Confirm button on the cheat menu because it refreshes the current screen, I've had this save file for a long time.
Besides that the game's incredibly grindy, trying to get your stats up to unlock new actions takes a long time, especially when you're pushing for NPC romance to get their events going, like Kylar, River and Robin. It has the same problem a lot of porn games have where they go way too hard on you doing repetitive tasks to get a single new event to happen. The cheats aren't all-encompassing anyway, a lot of things you still have to push manually and it takes a long time.
Just seems weird to me that they'd lock that away.
You are right though it doesn't affect me that much, I just had to comment on it.
There's zero chance of me restarting at this point regardless, there's very little replayability value in this game due to the way it's structured with events and again grinding character and NPC stats.
I find the most grindy to be Seduction(2.5% stat increase with only a few ways to get it ie The Pub, Robins stall and a handful of rando events) and Skullduggery beyond C? just after robbing mansions as there is no consistant way to boost it after that (you have to steal from Johns you have combat with). And the reason i find these grindy at these points is that there arn't enought events that take place during getting these to offset the bordem/grindy feel that follows it.
Like at school you get all the school events so for me that balances that grind, and with early skulldug you get all the sweet crime events and so on.
But yeah with no "main narrative" to drive you forward(i don't count "pay bailey" as its realy just a way to get you out there but not to push you forward) it can get real repetitive real quick, but i think the game takes good measures to hide this with the many threads to find and different ways to get there. But i think thats a problem with Sandbox games as a whole not just this one.
 
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Vrel post almost daily on the blogspot page so if you have anything good or relevent you can always post there.
I know and I read it, I just like to see his insights from time to time. Of course I also don't want him to spend his life here.

I lurk here a lot and read everything, but I'll try to chime in more often.
Don't mind it, I simply like your rants and opinions from time to time. Keep up the good work :)

still no pregnancy ?
Unfortunely not. The MC is infertile. She can't have kids.
 

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It seems there are 11 starting effects you can choose from with the feats not just rando cloathes(i've got extra money as well), you just need to unlock them by getting some of the speciffic Achievos first(it lists the ones you need in the starting boost tab at CG). But i'm going to try to unlock all the Achevos before i restart and hope my saves make it to the next update.

You say there arn't many threats but then also say you restart after being sexed, are you just looking for more harder opponents to assault you at random(like Morgan and Edan) because their are some hard fights in there you just have to look for them. Oh and the 3 night dogs seem to be hounding me more often lately.

And yeah after finding the new stuff and following the plot threads i like you kind of have to make your own fun, it is a sandbox after all.
Oh cool, I haven't gotten around to playing the new version much yet. Starting money and stuff sounds more interesting.

It's just where I find the challenge in the game right now, though maybe the new feats will help. I've had longer runs before but I haven't had a desire to try that again. After a while you're kinda forced into certain playstyles to keep up with the money payments atm, so if I feel like trying to stay on certain paths eventually the game loses its course. I feel like I've played through the diving/dancing/thieving playstyles too much for now. Gotta wait for more content on those or newer methods that last into later games better.

And yeah I've had to deal with them before, but now that I know about them, it's one of those things that's easy to avoid. A lot of those encounters in the game get you at the "surprise" difficulty. Once you know about them, it's less an issue. The dolphins seem a lot more common in the latest version though and trying to get through 3 waves of them without being raped is pretty hard right off the bat. I usually go train swimming a bit early there but they messed me up in the latest version lol.
 
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Oh cool, I haven't gotten around to playing the new version much yet. Starting money and stuff sounds more interesting.

It's just where I find the challenge in the game right now, though maybe the new feats will help. I've had longer runs before but I haven't had a desire to try that again. After a while you're kinda forced into certain playstyles to keep up with the money payments atm, so if I feel like trying to stay on certain paths eventually the game loses its course. I feel like I've played through the diving/dancing/thieving playstyles too much for now. Gotta wait for more content on those or newer methods that last into later games better.

And yeah I've had to deal with them before, but now that I know about them, it's one of those things that's easy to avoid. A lot of those encounters in the game get you at the "surprise" difficulty. Once you know about them, it's less an issue. The dolphins seem a lot more common in the latest version though and trying to get through 3 waves of them without being raped is pretty hard right off the bat. I usually go train swimming a bit early there but they messed me up in the latest version lol.
You should try the cafe/chef job, it gets you the money you need and has some nice content. It can get a bit grindy but this patch lessens it abit. And also the monthly virgin pay at the temple is good, around $2000-$3000 extra a month but you have to survive the inbetween payments. Also for a fun combat challenge try to survive the stimutant dealers event by first getting caught(on purpose ;) )and then get taken away. If you can survive that with no sexing then kudos.
 

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We need a constant warning that there's not pregnancy in game yet here lol. Most asked question/talked about by far. I don't get it personally, not my thing.
 

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Anyone else still getting detention after blackmailing Leighton? I wish I had sold the watch instead...
 

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Anyone else still getting detention after blackmailing Leighton? I wish I had sold the watch instead...
You still get detention with Leighton after blackmail, but now they won't chase after you to make you participate. Without blackmail, they wait at the front gate and then drag you to detention.
It's more of a matter of being a teacher's pet where you are protected by them when attacked by students or the "cool" delinquent where more students like you, but when you get attacked, the teachers ignore you or will side with others over you.

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I'm going to ruin everyone's parade now regarding achievements...
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Anyone else still getting detention after blackmailing Leighton? I wish I had sold the watch instead...
Yeah just leave the school like you would normally.
I'm going to ruin everyone's parade now regarding achievements...
Eh i think they should still be alowed with cheats as most peeps seem to use them to gauge stats more then anything else, i'm still going to try get them normally but you do you. Cheaters gunna cheat.
 
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Uhhhhh... Any first random combat scene at least. Didn't check past it, so i can't say. I'll try more than one and let you know after.

And would you consider changing it so that bigger sizes won't fit smaller holes? Possibly optional?
Thanks for looking into it.

Hole sizes aren't planned.
I know and I read it, I just like to see his insights from time to time. Of course I also don't want him to spend his life here.



Don't mind it, I simply like your rants and opinions from time to time. Keep up the good work :)
I'll do my best!
An idea for a way to kinda fight back against Bailey and the town's corruption:

There could be a school field trip event every so often that takes you somewhere outside of town via the bus station, and if you have high enough awareness (which my theory is this dictates how much of the 'real world' you're able to see), you can meet a group of people who know what's going on with the town and corporations and are working against it.

They could have you do tasks at the compound/orphanage/landfill or other heavily influenced areas, and maybe reward you with ways to protect yourself or just with money.

The field trip event could also be a gateway to other future out of town areas like the farm, and unlock access to them via the currently useless bus station
Thanks for the ideas. The bus station does need more use, though it gained something small this update.
 

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Thanks for looking into it.

Hole sizes aren't planned.
Alright. I tried it out. The first combat, the PC hand actions were missing. And the opponent couldn't do anything at all.
Second combat, PC hand actions were back, but the opponent wasn't loaded properly. They had no genitals and all they could do was undress and rub themselves on PC.
Third combat, everything seemed to load fine. Hand actions worked, genitals loaded properly, opponent had full range of actions. Same for 4th combat.
 
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I enjoyed this game for the few hours it took to finish a few playthroughs.
It's a great idea and the combat system, while it had me a little confused at first, quickly became a familiar and simple concept.
Great job! I am relieved there are still enjoyable adult RPG out there that has an expansive sandbox like this one.

With all that said, I do share the sentiment that the game can be grindy. However, the way to combat that challenge can be rather difficult when all enemies become a cakewalk if you progress too quickly. All it takes is to get one party to cum in order to win, and honestly that isn't a challenge once you have your characteristics up. It's a tough nut to crack since with the way the system is geared I can't say I know what's a good work around.

I wouldn't want to add new features to combat since it's already a bit time consuming as is. So adding even more depth might not be what to go for. Although I would say that maybe the game could do with some other forms of resolving combat. Combat and sex is fun, but if there's a way to incorporate other skills more often would be fun. For example, using English to persuade, History to find ways around the problem, et cetera.

Another suggestion I would add is about the Wilderness. In the forest, it is especially grindy in my experience because sometimes the encounter I want to happen just won't occur. Such as finding wolfshrooms near the wolf lair. Perhaps there could be a navigation skill that eventually lets you pick the encounter with a slight chance of harassment? It would level up the more you go around in the wilderness and such, maybe even incorporate the two trekkers to teach you some experience through interaction.

By the way, anyone know a way to increase the character's rump other than the parasite and getting fat? I have swimming up too high and it's hard to fail the skill check.
 
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I just wanted to chime and say that I also think that using cheats and the new feats shouldn't be mutually exclusive. Personally i only use the cheats for either emergencies or specific instances of experimentation to try and get something to trigger, and hell, this isn't multiplayer! Who cares if someone else breaks their game? It's their experience, they can play (ruin) it how they want, y'know?

Great game still! Keep up the excellent work, Vrelnir (I'm really looking forward to the prison update)!
 
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Quick ideas i don't wanna forget to mention later:

*School
- gym class as an optional or alternate to swimming class
- school clubs and activities
- competitions
- shower room & shenanigans
- nurse office
- sports area in the rear playground, for sports

*Park
- playground for kids with swings, monkey bars, sand box and whatever else is usually found in a playground.
- dogs and dog lovers mini events (playing frisbee, shitting on the grass, knocking ppl down randomly... stuff like that)
- joggers at appropriate times
- secluded forested area for inappropriate events (never wander alone in isolated park areas, there's always a rapist there) or catch a couple going at it and choose to leave, stay or stay and masturbate
- weed smokers/dealer

*Temple
- exorcism event (my take on it.. as a non-initiate exploring at night, you faintly hear some weird sounds from the deeper temple areas. peeking through a small window, you see a ritual of sorts with a moaning person tied in the middle in the room and a group of nuns/monks chanting at them. leave or stay.
.. as an initiate with enough grace, you are drafted to help the senior nuns/monks/Jordan with an exorcism ritual. the target in question manages to undo their restraints while the group is mid-chant and unable to stop and they pounce on you. distract the attacker long enough for the ritual to be finished or become the next one in need of it.)

*Forest
- deep in the woods lies an ancient temple that can only be opened with a special key. find the key in some special location and open it. too bad the temple is guarded by ancient, horny undead. eh, that's life.

cheers
 
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