nenoch1

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You can pray at the church for acceptance, at least for breasts when you are flat chested. Is it not the same for other body parts/sizes?
it can take a while, don't meditate until you pass out.
praying at the church helps grow your breast, I think, not acceptance.
you do not need acceptance right away, insecurity will not hurt you much until that bar fills up, i think.
i think it can take 3-5 days meditation with rest of to get acceptance.
 

Midge

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Is there any way to lose the controlled insomnia trait?
The bad trait here is insomnia and you have negated the bad effects by having it controlled. I think the way sleep is handled needs some adjustments, the way that the max time you can sleep shifts from 8-10 is problematic as at the start of the game it starts at 8h max meaning you have to sleep at 11pmish to get the right amount of time to get to 7am(school hours for Robin). Which for me means bathing 4-5 times in a row as i get home around 9pm to avoid the night badness.
As for removing bad traits i think it would make sence for Harper to offer therapy(hypno) that could also remove or other wise manage them. Maybe have them cost money and take 2h/ trait you want removed/managed.
 

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Wait! I do get the insecurity thing! i don't consider this a shitty mechanic or a punishment for players who want their MC with a lewd body.
I do agree however its too much of a grinding to do for those who want to get rid of this "punishment" having so many things to do in the game already.
My suggestions:
A) Make a meditation yoga class in the studio dance and invest 1 hour daily to the grinding, the hour you lose to get to the lake and back that is.
or
B) Make the meditation 30 minutes isntead 1 hour?
or
C) Double the rates of "acceptance" for each hour of meditation
Either way something needs to change on this front and i think your suggestions are good. But if Vrel doesn't want to change the way it works having a better option of managing it should be implimented either by way of a class/course yoga or "acceptance" training with Harper or someone and have it cost money but give a large chunk of security. Or reading a self motivation book in the library.
On a different note how about bookshelf for your room where you can get books either borrowed, bought or stolen, and read them at home to increase vairious skills and whatnot.
 
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DD2

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I like, but think in how complicated may be to add a event in the game related to books and what not to balance MC mental state... I really like that to be honest, But i also consider in how complicated must be to code all this in game, so guess by simply increasing the rates of "acceptances" per hour of meditation seems less problem to code in game...? not a programmer so only speaking form a logical point of view.
 

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The only way to ignore the stress gain because insecurity is meditating in the rock at the lake for acceptance. In the church you can only pray for smaller boobs and penis as far as i can tell.



Wait! I do get the insecurity thing! i don't consider this a shitty mechanic or a punishment for players who want their MC with a lewd body.
I mean, who have not suffer bulling for having a big bulge in their pants (i know in school of this boy who class mates constantly hit, laugh, grope and pull down their pants on the hallways because had a big bulge who could not hide, specially in gym class this was specially stressful) or big tits at school (I know of this girl who had big tits for her age and was constantly mocked by their classmates with all sort of nicknames, cow was the most commune) and felt embarrassed for being different in a very lewd way? Or... who haven't mock in school girls and/or boys for having and obvious lewd body? this is totally true to RL expectations and a cause of stress for young people and i love this mechanic being implemented!

But for people who want to get rid of this trait there is work to be done, and for those who want to keep it the alternative is not doing this meditation grinding and keep true to what RL expectations it is.

I do agree however its too much of a grinding to do for those who want to get rid of this "punishment" having so many things to do in the game already.

My suggestions:

A) Make a meditation yoga class in the studio dance and invest 1 hour daily to the grinding, the hour you lose to get to the lake and back that is.
or
B) Make the meditation 30 minutes isntead 1 hour?
or
C) Double the rates of "acceptance" for each hour of meditation

I didn't know will power drop, that is sad and unrealistic, will power is something you win over time, for it to drop has really no sense what so ever...
I do get it too. But it's still shitty.

The only real question that should be asked when introducing a new mechanic to a game is, what does it bring? And here, the answer is absolutely nothing.

It makes you sit your ass on a rock near the lake for a month. That's it. Period.

There's not even an interesting alternative. You want to play a character with small or huge boobs? Go sit your ass on that rock for a month, or get free Stress. That's it. It's not a trade, it's not interesting, it's just grinding that brings absolutely nothing.


(Edited to tone down language. Sorry, it was late, I was a bit drunk, and perceived wastes of my time like this mechanic always set me off big time.)
 
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nenoch1

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The only way to ignore the stress gain because insecurity is meditating in the rock at the lake for acceptance.

lol, that reminds me of why I used to meditate for acceptance until I was stressed out, then go to the brothel and dance away my stress while being mocked for my inadequacies.
 

Midge

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I do get it too. But it's still shitty.
The only real question that should be asked when introducing a new mechanic to a game, is, what does it bring? And here, the answer is, absolutely nothing.
I would have to disagree. Not with its shittiness, that i agree with, but with how you say that it adds "nothing" to the game. I think in this depression based psychosis simulater it adds flavor. As the game is all about having to manage all the little things that eat away at your PCs mental health. And body shaming is one of those ways. Could it be better managed? Yes. Like you said and i've mentioned above somewhere it needs to be better handled then "meditate at the waterfall for X amount of hours". I don't think it warrents being pulled from the game though, just a few more thematic and better ways of dealing with it.
 
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Midge

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I like, but think in how complicated may be to add a event in the game related to books and what not to balance MC mental state... I really like that to be honest, But i also consider in how complicated must be to code all this in game, so guess by simply increasing the rates of "acceptances" per hour of meditation seems less problem to code in game...? not a programmer so only speaking form a logical point of view.
I tend not to worry about the programming logistics of the ideas i put forth because like you i'm not a programmer, so my attitude towards it are that it's probably as easy or hard as anything else to add in the game. And untill Vrel or Scythe says it can't be done then i'm not going to worry about it as if it can't be done then it can't be done, but if it could be done then thats all the go ahead i need. I'm just here to put forth ideas i think might add to the game(in a good way ;)) and talk about other ideas others put forth including what has already been added to it. And to help noobs i suppose.
 
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ladguru

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I like, but think in how complicated may be to add a event in the game related to books and what not to balance MC mental state... I really like that to be honest, But i also consider in how complicated must be to code all this in game, so guess by simply increasing the rates of "acceptances" per hour of meditation seems less problem to code in game...? not a programmer so only speaking form a logical point of view.
I agree, boosting meditation should easy. It's way too grindy right now.
Having more options to gain "acceptance" (like yoga, e.g.), would be better, of course. But this takes scenes and text to be written.

Another thought:
Having very high promiscuity and exhibitionism and being at the same time ashamed of the size of whatsoever makes not much sense.
Combining these mechanics might be tricky in detail, but it is also a chance to integrate insecurity/acceptance better into the game.

High insecurity might prevent some lewd acts. Or they might "fail". Or cause high stress. On success you might gain acceptance.
High exhibitionism on the other hand could boost an acceptance-gain. E.g. to adapt after a change in size.
 
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The bad trait here is insomnia and you have negated the bad effects by having it controlled. I think the way sleep is handled needs some adjustments, the way that the max time you can sleep shifts from 8-10 is problematic as at the start of the game it starts at 8h max meaning you have to sleep at 11pmish to get the right amount of time to get to 7am(school hours for Robin). Which for me means bathing 4-5 times in a row as i get home around 9pm to avoid the night badness.
As for removing bad traits i think it would make sence for Harper to offer therapy(hypno) that could also remove or other wise manage them. Maybe have them cost money and take 2h/ trait you want removed/managed.
I now have full blown insomnia and nightmares. I think it's because of my lack of control as control. I had anxiety as well but I lost it somehow. I would absolutely love for you to have to ability to be the aggressor in some situations or at least more proactive when it comes to having consensual sex but the focus of the game seems to be from the perspective of the victim so I'm assuming adding that will be a lot of work.
 

noenchilada

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It doesn't grow breast or penis sizes despite saying that you pray for it, it only raises acceptance. I know because I usually overcome my MC's insecurities by praying at the church since purity is easier to maintain than willpower. Only downside is you get harassed quite often.
 

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When it says "your virginity might be worth something," is there a way to sell it yet?
Kind of... You can get a virginity check at the Temple if you join and if you keep it for a whole month they'll give you cash depending on your grace levels(upto $4000 a month for max grace).
But they want you to keep it, not sell it.
 
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DD2

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4K a month? that is nothing! should be 16K or more! because Baily takes 4K every week...
 
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I've gotten all 17 antiques ( even two golden chastity belts : one being on myself ) and when i went to the Museum to sell the last item I hadn't found yet, I didn't got the Museum feat. Also, I can't get the Living Canvas feat ( I've inked each single parts of my character, left the commercial center and walked around and nothing happened ) and I can't get the Billboard feat either ( I don't gain any achievement after writing something on my character ). It seems like the Fully Drenched feat doesn't work with the Snake Vore event ( with Robin ) as shown in the wiki either. The Bailey's Trouble Maker feat now works perfectly tho.

Update : Got the It Belongs in a Museum! feat by passing the day. Dunno if this method works for the other feats here, I just know it doesn't work with the Snake Vore ( with Robin ) event for the Fully Drenched feat.
 
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11037AAA

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Also, how can I get the golden chastity cage off my character ? Do I need to make so many encounters and have NPCs try to tug on it until it comes off ?
 
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