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EmDotRand

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On that note also, the TFs are purposefully implemented in the way where it's unknown whether the protag actually transforms in any way or runs around with paper ears glued to their head
It's been a minute but I recall winter tries to rip your ears off. They're definitely not paper as they would tear or at least get crumpled. Also you can glide with the wings. Who tf thinks "I'm such a slut. Let me strap a glider on my back 24/7"?
 
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ViviX12

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It's been a minute but I recall winter tries to rip your ears off. They're definitely not paper as they would tear or at least get crumpled. Also you can glide with the wings. Who tf thinks "I'm such a slut. Let me strap a glider on my back 24/7"?
It was a slight hyperbole, the intent stands. The protag is implied to be possibly somewhat delusional.
 

quadangle

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It was a slight hyperbole, the intent stands. The protag is implied to be possibly somewhat delusional.
I don't think delusions would let you travel the moors significantly faster, or drop down from great heights without any harm
 

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what kind of otherworldly power is this? is she needed to enter the mirror with tentacles? where can I get it?
 

quiboune

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what kind of otherworldly power is this? where can I get it?
It's any of the transformations, which you can find plenty of guides on how to acquire in the thread and in the Wiki. That will just unlock some appearance control such as which wing/ear/horn sprite version you'd like to use or on which layer that part will be drawn(over hats, under hats, behind back, etc), nothing cool.

is she needed to enter the mirror with tentacles?
What?
 

ViviX12

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what kind of otherworldly power is this? is she needed to enter the mirror with tentacles? where can I get it?
As post above states, transformations. Regarding mirror and tentacles, you can interact with tentacles every day at 3:00, to enter the tentacle ppains it needs to be a blood moon and you need high deviancy iirc
 

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As post above states, transformations. Regarding mirror and tentacles, you can interact with tentacles every day at 3:00, to enter the tentacle ppains it needs to be a blood moon and you need high deviancy iirc
last i checked you need to be hallucinating to interact with the tenticles
 

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Honestly the whole argument for and against unreliable narrator and all of that doesnt really matter much unless the game actually references it directly or brings it up in some way. Its really a useless discussion. It really doesnt matter if what is happening is really happening or not since the point is showing what is happening and not why it is happening.
 

ViviX12

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Honestly the whole argument for and against unreliable narrator and all of that doesnt really matter much unless the game actually references it directly or brings it up in some way. Its really a useless discussion. It really doesnt matter if what is happening is really happening or not since the point is showing what is happening and not why it is happening.
This isn't a "for and against", unreliable narration is clearly present in the game, what is told directly is only what the protagonist sees (which includes a lot of hallucinations), and through other characters there is additional glimpse of doubt. Regardless, what this is about is illustrating that it has to be considered when thinking of new transformations and why there is only so far they can go within this set narrative.
 

EmDotRand

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You're not meant to take the game's narration literally at all times. There's heavily implied to be an unreliable narrator and your character's perception gets explicitly altered as trauma increases. The animal-people are explicitly hallucinations according to the game's settings, but the narration treats them as real. Some of the supernatural elements seem pretty clearly real in the fiction of the game, but there's a lot of stuff in between that's open to interpretation.

Are the animal ears really attached to you, or are you feeling "phantom ear" pain and ignoring them getting crumpled? Are the wings real, or are you delusionally experiencing the sensation of gliding or altered perception of travel time as a coping mechanism for your traumatic life? Do you really grow cat fangs, or do you bite harder because you think you're a cat-person?
My main issue is that "it was just a hallucination" is unfalsifiable in fiction. If any potential evidence pops up, you could just claim that's a hallucination too. A crowd of people saw it? Mass hallucination. Same thing about claiming it was all a dream. How am I supposed to have any meaningful discourse when it can all be shut down by reapeating a single statement?

Side note: Since animal-people can be set to always active regardless of hallucination, that part is "depending on the game's settings" rather than "according to".
 

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the cow TF gives double milk/semen volume, which is something tangible you can actually measure
and it is measured when youre on remys farm or the cafe
you cant exactly hallucinate the lines on a measuring cup, or at least not when theres other ppl who can comment on the amount

unless you can somehow enhance the amount only through sheer force of will, in which case damn lol ig anythings possible
 
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My main issue is that "it was just a hallucination" is unfalsifiable in fiction. If any potential evidence pops up, you could just claim that's a hallucination too. A crowd of people saw it? Mass hallucination. Same thing about claiming it was all a dream. How am I supposed to have any meaningful discourse when it can all be shut down by reapeating a single statement?

Side note: Since animal-people can be set to always active regardless of hallucination, that part is "depending on the game's settings" rather than "according to".
its been a very long time, but there is several instances where the TFs are acknowledged by others so the hallucination theory is pretty weak IMO this is a world where rape is a hobby, commonly accepted and nothing wrong with it and all sorts of weird shit happens everyone's pretty fucked up
 

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the cow TF gives double milk/semen volume, which is something tangible you can actually measure
and it is measured when youre on remys farm or the cafe
you cant exactly hallucinate the lines on a measuring cup, or at least not when theres other ppl who can comment on the amount

unless you can somehow enhance the amount only through sheer force of will, in which case damn lol ig anythings possible
Could be a number of things. Drugs that increase production of body fluids, placebo effect, MC is hallucinating the amount and the responses from other people, or maybe it's actual milk from an animal, and MC's just adding their own to the mix and convinced themselves it's 100% their own contribution.
 

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On that note also, the TFs are purposefully implemented in the way where it's unknown whether the protag actually transforms in any way or runs around with paper ears glued to their head
The thing about transformations being visual and not physical is kinda dumb when traits like dark horns, sharp eyes, fangs exist along with certain events like students pulling on your tail or being able to fly/glide
 

EmDotRand

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Oh look. A bunch of points (some of which I brought up in a similar conversation on Reddit) that would be perfectly valid to most sane people. The response I've gotten? "Why not?" Seriously, what's stopping someone from claiming some crap like "Everyone else is hallucinating too,", "You're just biting really hard", "Hallucinations make you feel things that aren't there, explaining how you can feel your extremities being grabbed," and other such ass pulls. At least mass hysteria could be countered easily (how are everyone hallucinating the same thing every time and they're in sync with your own every time?)
 
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