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rhoghadessa

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Speaking of Avery things, while I haven't gone far into the new content regarding them yet and the wiki isn't fully updated on all the spoiler content yet:
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BeholdTheWizzard

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Look, it's very simple: All other TF's give you a safety net. Plenty of wiggle room. You can lose them over time, but you can also get them back. Not angel.
First you need to keep your purity high for a long time, which in itself is a greater challenge than getting any other TF. And you can lose it at the drop of a hat.

If you fall after X days of low purity, that would be far better, none of this virginity BS.
It would give you time, the abiltiy to do something... and would make far more sense than what we have now.

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Does stealing or lying affect purity? Can't recall that it does.
 

BeholdTheWizzard

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Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of... Then again, danger is part of life, right? :D I'll probably end up trying DoLP next week-end... Or later today...maybe after my morning coffee? Okay, okay, right now!
Jokes aside, last time I played DoL (a bit before last update and I stupidly sent Avery away...if only I'd known!) was mainly to try and finally get all the Feats I could so it ended up being a bit tedious. I saw whole parts of the game I hadn't seen before but now I don't see myself starting a new game (although for the first time I would have a bunch of Coins to spend) unless there was a massive, massive update. So maybe DoLP is the answer to reinject a little life into my experience!
Thanks for helping me convince myself :D
DoLP is superiorin every way. more content, more QoL.. and also reverse-rape! :p
 
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Look, it's very simple: All other TF's give you a safety net.
no they don't. every single tf adds at minimum 500 points to your allure/danger score

You can lose them over time, but you can also get them back. Not angel. First you need to keep your purity high for a long time,
angel can be lost over time as well, just stay at less than perfect purity at the start of the day for long enough. given that you didn't know that that's a thing - keeping your purity must be an easy enough task for you to fail to not do it. the tf can also be gained again any time, as long as your main virginity is intact. it's even possible to go from full demon to full angel, if you acquired demon tf by maintaining low purity first rather than falling from angel.

which in itself is a greater challenge than getting any other TF. And you can lose it at the drop of a hat.
what, are you that bad at challenges? pick a chastity device from the temple - it's free for a virgin like you...r pc, if they aspire to be an angel.

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Does stealing or lying affect purity? Can't recall that it does.
no. only contact with lewd fluids does. milk/"milk" from the tap, coming inside (by you or npcs, hole doesn't matter), and tribbing at high arousal. also masturbation, especially at the temple, but only if you come. edging doesn't count. nor does sudden orgasm in public for reasons unrelated.
 

rhoghadessa

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While chastity belts/cages are the way to go (golden ones if you really want to make sure), it'd still be nice if Angels with their divine power could kind of create 'virgin barrier' temporarily. Maybe it won't save them from having their main virginity taken anyway, but at least it'd make them a bit more 'durable' if you're not having one on for some reason. It's already silly enough that while you're punching/kicking/headbutting/biting them and otherwise moving your body around, they have the time to try to stick it in mid-combat (and vice versa)? It's a game, sure, and one of the more rare hentai genres (alongside accidental sex), but you'd think against an enemy with a penis, they'd have to be able to hold the PC down or get a good grip on their hips first. Or that one could use their legs and/or body to try to 'pull away' still even if the tip is in (using physiques check, and maybe dancing (flexibility) and/or athletics (body strength) instead of 'how pissed off are your opponent(s)'), at the cost of fatigue? Though that would probably make combat too complicated with the possibilities, like if say the PC is fight two or more at a time and they're struggling to pull away, but if the PC isn't trying to fend the other attackers off, they could instead try to help 'push them in' instead.

Going into more silly territory, while it's usually easy enough to sneakily remove condoms, Demon characters should be able to channel their demonic energy to 'dissolve' condoms if they're already inside, causing the encounter to be completely raw instead. They should also have bonuses to their fighting capability if they already have a dick in them or in someone, especially if they're a Sadistic Demon. Though this would probably make more sense if you could disable/knockout individual fighters from making them orgasm enough times, instead of the current 'orgasm the entire group enough times'. Could have a Demon riding someone while spinning around like a spinning top while they punch and kick people, all the while 'draining' someone like the lewd succubus/incubus that you are.
 

rhoghadessa

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this game is peak but it takes place in Britain :sob:
Though being an island nation with a lot of places where north of land are some islands and an ocean in the UK (not counting seas and the English Channel), the most likely places are either in Scotland or Ireland. North Ireland or thereabouts sounds most probable considering the Temple.
 
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BeholdTheWizzard

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angel can be lost over time as well, just stay at less than perfect purity at the start of the day for long enough.
Definitely not at full purity for a long time. Hasn't triggered for me at all. In multiple playtrughs.

no. only contact with lewd fluids does. milk/"milk" from the tap, coming inside (by you or npcs, hole doesn't matter), and tribbing at high arousal. also masturbation, especially at the temple, but only if you come. edging doesn't count. nor does sudden orgasm in public for reasons unrelated.
So basically everything fun, and everything that's the point of the game... Thanks for proving just how S*** Angel TF is.
 

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Love interest ratings:

***ROBIN
+sweet
+always there, easy access, good trauma/stress reduction with no negatives
+sex in bed (2), cinema and during event. Not bad.
+only girl you can talk into a threesome (just one tough :( )
-increases payment
OVERALL: 10/10 best girl

***ALEX
+has a farm with nice content
+easygoing
-never leaves farm
-massive money and time investment
OVERALL: 9/10

***WHITNEY
-shit in human form
-likes to humiliate you publicly
+will have sex whenver
OVERALL: 1/10

***SIDENY
+sweet
+also good for stress/trauma
-pure Sidney: cannot fuck anyone other than her
-corrupt Sidney: imaginary sex only, on one location only
-you have to deal with church shenanigans constantly
OVERAL: 5/10 (would have been 9/10 without the shenanigans)


***KAYLAR
+kinda sweet
+very open to sex with you in multiple locations
-creepy psycho
-having to deal with her jealousy and kidnapping
OVERALL: 5/10

***AVERY
+money
+mansion
-somewhat annoying to cook for her
-mansion feels empty
OVERALL: 7/10


***EDEN
+possesive
+another safe space
+not that bad once you gettop know her
+open to sex
-limited to her cabin/woods.
-similar to Kylar
OVERALL: 8/10


***BLACK WOLF
+safe space in forest
+pack protection
+kinda sweet
-you cannot really initiate anything yourself, pray to RNG jesus
-very limited content
OVERALL: 4/10
 
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boon4791

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Love interest ratings:

***ROBIN
+sweet
+always there, easy access, good trauma/stress reduction with no negatives
+sex in bed (2), cinema and during event. Not bad.
+only girl you can talk into a threesome (just one tough :( )
-increases payment
OVERALL: 10/10 best girl

***ALEX
+has a farm with nice content
+easygoing
-never leaves farm
-massive money and time investment
OVERALL: 9/10

***WHITNEY
-shit in human form
-likes to humiliate you publicly
+will have sex whenver
OVERALL: 1/10

***SIDENY
+sweet
+also good for stress/trauma
-pure Sidney: cannot fuck anyone other than her
-corrupt Sidney: imaginary sex only, on one location only
-you have to deal with church shenanigans constantly
OVERAL: 5/10 (would have been 9/10 without the shenanigans)


***KAYLAR
+kinda sweet
+very open to sex with you in multiple locations
-creepy psycho
-having to deal with her jealousy and kidnapping
OVERALL: 5/10

***AVERY
+money
+mansion
-somewhat annoying to cook for her
-mansion feels empty
OVERALL: 7/10


***EDEN
+possesive
+another safe space
+not that bad once you gettop know her
+open to sex
-limited to her cabin/woods.
-similar to Kylar
OVERALL: 8/10


***BLACK WOLF
+safe space in forest
+pack protection
+kinda sweet
-you cannot really initiate anything yourself, pray to RNG jesus
-very limited content
OVERALL: 4/10
You forgot the Great Hawk... and he is one of the more gentle ones and he has a castle... far far away...
 
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katmandomo

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I've been thinking a bit about Bailey and what kind of income he makes with his orphanage. It requires some assumptions:

1. There are other kids in the orphanage. Random events confirm this, but it's hard to discern how many other kids there are. I'm assuming 10 total just as a pure guess on my part.
2. The other kids pay rent at the same rates you do. Since Robin pays the same this seems reasonable.
3. The other kids fail to make their payments sometime after hitting the 2,000 tier and are punished in similar ways.
3a. However the Eden punishment appears to be reserved for the MC as Bailey never shows up with more orphans for Eden.
3b. The farm punishment is weird too because it assumes the child returns after a week. Honestly both Eden and the Farm are strange things for Bailey to do since they both deprive him of income and don't let him reuse the room.
4. Bailey has a ready supply of Orphans to replace ones he loses. He/She is so blase about losing Orphans they are clearly not worried about running out. I am assuming 2 weeks to find a replacement and then get them started on the escalating rent.
5. I assume the player takes over Robin's rent so he/she is not sold off.
6. The UK has a weekly £18 stipend for caring for orphans.
7. The dinner party child servant rental fee is £150, same as if you knocked on the door on Danube street.
8. The underground farm stud fee is £500, purely a guess on my part
9. The underground brothel child sex slave purchase price is £1000, another guess on my part, and probably conservative.
10. With the 10 orphans 2 of which are the MC and Robin, but the rest cycle as above, suffering the escalating rents until after a month at the £2000 level they fail and suffer the two lesser punishments before being sold to the brothel.
11. Bailey's talk about "debt" you must pay off is complete bullshit.

Given all of these conditions, I worked out his gross yearly income at £573,572, or approximately $765,000. Abusing defenseless orphans is really profitable, even with a pretty small number of them to take care of. Obviously Bailey has expenses too, he probably has to pay off the cops, not to mention taxes, maintenance, and utilities. Still, the take home must be over half a million a year. One wonders what they do with it given how miserable they seem to be.

I've attached the spreadsheet if anybody else wants to play with the numbers.
 
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katmandomo

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In doing research for that calculation I discovered with some amusement that there is a mod that allows you to "pay off" your debt to Bailey and the very first assumption is that the lying rapist child sex trafficker and pimp is operating in good faith.
 
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sparrow_rose

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I've been thinking a bit about Bailey and what kind of income he make with his orphanage. It requires some assumptions:

1. There are other kids in the orphanage. Random events confirm this, but it's hard to discern how many other kids there are. I'm assuming 10 total just as a pure guess on my part.
As someone who lived in both a children's home and a group home, I guarantee there's more than 10 kids. There might be ten kids in the protag's age group. Or up to thirty. It would probably look something like this, 10-30 kids five and under, 10-30 ages six to ten, 10-30 ages eleven to fifteen. 10-30 ages sixteen and up (probably our group). So, 40 to 120 children.
 

Cheesea

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My understanding with the current story is that the orphans don't have to pay until they reach 18, then once they're adults he withholds their documentation and forces them to pay him back for raising them. So my assumption is that there's probably quite a few orphans that don't have to pay, but most of the scenes with other orphans does focus around their debts.
 

katmandomo

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Although I think Bailey may only take on children who can earn enough money to pay his rents. He's definitely not running a charity. That would probably exclude the kids under 10 for the most part, although they might get the Oliver Twist treatment. None of the events mention smaller children either.
 

Cheesea

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Although I think Bailey may only take on children who can earn enough money to pay his rents. He's definitely not running a charity. That would probably exclude the kids under 10 for the most part, although they might get the Oliver Twist treatment. None of the events mention smaller children either.
You get a picture of your younger self at one point. I don't remember what age it says you are in the photo, but I'm pretty certain it's a photo of you as a child at the orphanage.
 

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Love interest ratings:

***ROBIN
+sweet
+always there, easy access, good trauma/stress reduction with no negatives
+sex in bed (2), cinema and during event. Not bad.
+only girl you can talk into a threesome (just one tough :( )
-increases payment
OVERALL: 10/10 best girl

***ALEX
+has a farm with nice content
+easygoing
-never leaves farm
-massive money and time investment
OVERALL: 9/10

***WHITNEY
-shit in human form
-likes to humiliate you publicly
+will have sex whenver
OVERALL: 1/10

***SIDENY
+sweet
+also good for stress/trauma
-pure Sidney: cannot fuck anyone other than her
-corrupt Sidney: imaginary sex only, on one location only
-you have to deal with church shenanigans constantly
OVERAL: 5/10 (would have been 9/10 without the shenanigans)


***KAYLAR
+kinda sweet
+very open to sex with you in multiple locations
-creepy psycho
-having to deal with her jealousy and kidnapping
OVERALL: 5/10

***AVERY
+money
+mansion
-somewhat annoying to cook for her
-mansion feels empty
OVERALL: 7/10


***EDEN
+possesive
+another safe space
+not that bad once you gettop know her
+open to sex
-limited to her cabin/woods.
-similar to Kylar
OVERALL: 8/10


***BLACK WOLF
+safe space in forest
+pack protection
+kinda sweet
-you cannot really initiate anything yourself, pray to RNG jesus
-very limited content
OVERALL: 4/10
Eden 10/10, Whitney 9/10, Sydney 8/10, Robin 8/10, Avery 7/10, Alex 6/10, Great Hawk 6/10, Kylar 4/10, Black Wolf 1/10.
 
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